The Official 2016 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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swisstoni said:
Er no. His championship winning car didn't work properly yet again and messed him up when he needed it most. Hence glum driver.
What fairy tale berk would act any other way in the circs? Certainly not an F1 driver.
They're just desperately looking for new ways to dislike him.What fairy tale berk would act any other way in the circs? Certainly not an F1 driver.
I think he's been ever so restrained about how poor the reliability and preparation of his car has been.
Vaud said:
Schumacher was normally pretty calm and pragmatic IIRC, as was Hakkinen.
I'm not sure either often had to watch their team mate cruise off towards an unchallenged title while they had constant reliability issues? May be wrong though.I don't think I've seen Lewis be 'not calm' just not happy. Everyone would have predicted hissy fits etc with him being such a petulant child and all. I haven't seen any of that.
Hungrymc said:
I'm not sure either often had to watch their team mate cruise off towards an unchallenged title while they had constant reliability issues? May be wrong though.
I don't think I've seen Lewis be 'not calm' just not happy. Everyone would have predicted hissy fits etc with him being such a petulant child and all. I haven't seen any of that.
I'm actually on the other side of the argument - I think he is at peace with himself since his 3rd title, but he can be a bit Mansell at times I don't think I've seen Lewis be 'not calm' just not happy. Everyone would have predicted hissy fits etc with him being such a petulant child and all. I haven't seen any of that.
Hungrymc said:
I don't think I've seen Lewis be 'not calm' just not happy. Everyone would have predicted hissy fits etc with him being such a petulant child and all. I haven't seen any of that.
Indeed, and although Vettel has moments where he is the funniest driver in interviews, he equally does not handle it well when things go wrong. Interesting to contrast Hamilton's relative calm in moments where it appears Mercedes unreliability is denying him the chance of a title with the almighty tantrums Vettel throws when something relatively insignificant goes wrong. Though I do think his fight with Kvyat in the cool down room was exaggerated as he knew Marchionne was present at the track and was an attempt to try and save face by directing attention.
When you are quickest it's a risk to do something different to everyone else. I don't see an advantage in starting on yellow tyres. The undercut will be smaller but he will still need to react quickly and have to do a very long stint on the purples. But these Pirelli's are great at going the distance........aren't they?
Edited by Mr_Thyroid on Saturday 28th May 18:23
Jasandjules said:
Well it was an "interesting" quali.
Does anyone know why Lewis went on a sight seeing trip for a few laps in Q3? Was it just waiting for the track evolution? Just wondered if the tyres were a bit borked by the time he actually went for it....
Just getting in sync with the traffic to have a traffic free run apparently. Bearing in mind he went out in between the two runs the others did so had a number of cars exiting the pits whilst he was circulating having confirmed the car was ok. Think he was just keeping the tyres up to temp whilst waiting for the right time to go.Does anyone know why Lewis went on a sight seeing trip for a few laps in Q3? Was it just waiting for the track evolution? Just wondered if the tyres were a bit borked by the time he actually went for it....
hairyben said:
Dr Z said:
Mega lap from Ricciardo. Very pleased for him. Hamilton was also looking good but Ric was mega in S3.
Both were looking 10/10's, hamilton seemed to lose it in S3, I wonder if it was just ric/RB being better there, or if hamilton made an error, or his tyres were showing their age after his unusual several warmup lamp strat.Dr Z said:
hairyben said:
Dr Z said:
Mega lap from Ricciardo. Very pleased for him. Hamilton was also looking good but Ric was mega in S3.
Both were looking 10/10's, hamilton seemed to lose it in S3, I wonder if it was just ric/RB being better there, or if hamilton made an error, or his tyres were showing their age after his unusual several warmup lamp strat.But hadn't it been said that the Mercs' front tyres were starting to give up towards the end of their fast laps, so the extra lap or two could have made a difference, and explain the last sector fall off?
swisstoni said:
glazbagun said:
HustleRussell said:
I'm not sure that's it, perhaps it's the knowledge that he can and the car can, but so often doesn't due to reliability- while Rosberg appears 'luckier' this season.
Surely someone like Hamilton must have been here many a time in his career by now, though. Look at all those wilderness years he spent with McLaren. There probably isn't a driver on the grid, apart from Rosberg, who wouldn't swap places with him.Maybe the good years have ruined his perspective or the hedonism is wearing thin and racing is starting to feel like work.
What fairy tale berk would act any other way in the circs? Certainly not an F1 driver.
Long list of drivers who have taken similar difficulties with a much better attitude. And let's not forget that Rosberg also suffered the same issue today, though I accept it didn't seem to affect his efforts as much.
REALIST123 said:
Dr Z said:
hairyben said:
Dr Z said:
Mega lap from Ricciardo. Very pleased for him. Hamilton was also looking good but Ric was mega in S3.
Both were looking 10/10's, hamilton seemed to lose it in S3, I wonder if it was just ric/RB being better there, or if hamilton made an error, or his tyres were showing their age after his unusual several warmup lamp strat.But hadn't it been said that the Mercs' front tyres were starting to give up towards the end of their fast laps, so the extra lap or two could have made a difference, and explain the last sector fall off?
These were the sector times:
Driver | Sector 1 | Sector 2 | Sector 3 |
---|---|---|---|
Ricciardo | 19.532 | 34.693 | 19.397 |
Rosberg | 19.486 | 34.699 | 19.606 |
Hamilton | 19.349 | 34.778 | 19.653 |
By the end of S1/S2 Hamilton was half a tenth up on Rosberg and a tenth up on Ricciardo. Hamilton only lost half a tenth to Rosberg on the final sector--the kind of gap you often see in a clear run, so I'm less inclined to believe the tyres going away in S3 explanation.
REALIST123 said:
Long list of drivers who have taken similar difficulties with a much better attitude. And let's not forget that Rosberg also suffered the same issue today, though I accept it didn't seem to affect his efforts as much.
Whatever you may think of Hamilton it is pretty strange how you get some people saying he is miserable lots of the time, and then another group of people saying he is much more settled in himself after the past 2 championships and perhaps he is not as motivated this season... Same person, yet two contrasting interpretations of him.
AW111 said:
swisstoni said:
Er no. His championship winning car didn't work properly yet again and messed him up when he needed it most. Hence glum driver.
What fairy tale berk would act any other way in the circs? Certainly not an F1 driver.
Mark Webber appreciates your sympathy .What fairy tale berk would act any other way in the circs? Certainly not an F1 driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLNMDrQ_56U
All drivers are up and down. A lot of the time it depends on what they expect to happen compared to what happens, and once they have time to adjust their exceptions they become "nicer". Take Alonso - last season complaining lots, and yet although the car is nowhere near where they want he is complaining a lot less. IMO this is because he now knows where it should be, but it takes time to get the head there. Today Hamilton knew he had to get pole to get his championship started, and yet it ended up a problem where he didn't know if he could go, and then had to do it all in one lap with no banker like the others had. Would you really be happy if you were him?
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