The Official 2016 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 Monaco Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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AreOut

3,658 posts

162 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Impasse said:
Maybe they were trying to avoid frustrations from either driver preventing both cars from finishing. The Sauber incident may have subsequently vindicated the call. It was clear fairly early on that NR and his car were not going to be competitive today.
going birdwatching instead of managing a racing team would certainly avoid lot of frustrations

SeeFive

8,280 posts

234 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Some Gump said:
Interesting race. Gutted for Danny ric, and love that Ham effectively removed his right to moan about the previous weekend. If DR had kept his toe in, they'd both have DNF'ed.
You do realise don't you that when exiting the chicane, Daniel only lifted when he lost the back end on the wet offline and that there was just a little more than a cars width next to Hamilton, who was on the dry racing line?

The issue IMO was Hamilton losing it under braking and cutting the chicane - what could be viewed as gaining an advantage - essentially slowing DR as he returned to the circuit.

Completely different circumstances, both questionable in their own right. Both racing incidents though, but one more malicious than the other, and one miles off the racing line to the other, and one not leaving a cars width, and one having a massive closing speed... Etc...


funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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glazbagun said:
s3fella said:
Rosberg is mentally broken
hehe
scratchchin

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

210 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Great race.

Danny Rics wrath is strangely out of character. Yes, the team cocked up but he got 2nd.

I have never seen him act like that before. Strange.

ZX10R NIN

27,641 posts

126 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Maybe he's eyeing up a Mercedes/Ferrari drive.

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

191 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
Maybe he's eyeing up a Mercedes/Ferrari drive.
I can see both teams having a look at him, bloody good driver and bit more personality than either Nico or Kimi.

Some Gump

12,705 posts

187 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Crafty_ said:
You could argue that Danny only had the lead that RBR squandered because Nico was so slow and held everyone up.
You could argue that lewis only had the deficit he did, because rosberg let him past.

Not that it matters. 40 % of you want hamilton's children. 40% want his blood. There's very few people left to talk to rationally smile

wibble cb

3,612 posts

208 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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amgmcqueen said:
HustleRussell said:
What the fk is fking Bieber doing there
Waiting for Hamilton to suck him off after he's helped him with his American accent.
TheExcession said:
KernowSid said:
Whatever credibility Hamilton had was totally lost in that one exchange with Bieber!
That really was painful.
It was painful, but I take the long view - if those few seconds add US interest and sponsorship to a team then I'll accept it.

Given it is 2016, to be honest I find that the girls holding the driver numbers on the grid a rather poor 70's throwback....
Bieber is actually Canadian.....

hora

37,168 posts

212 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Some Gump said:
You could argue that lewis only had the deficit he did, because rosberg let him past.

Not that it matters. 40 % of you want hamilton's children. 40% want his blood. There's very few people left to talk to rationally smile
And the 20% are certifiably insane

suffolk009

5,433 posts

166 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Vaud said:
TheExcession said:
Dr Z said:
This race delivered! Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Yep! Read that last post with a Martin Brundle voice in your head.
Now try it with a Martin Blundell voice in your head.





Dull, isn't it?
Brundle isn't blessed with the best voice for broadcast, otherwise he's the best on F1 telly at the moment. I remember him talking to the actor Patrick Steward on the grid (I think at Monaco) years ago. He said he'd like to have Steward's voice for the next two hours.

Or did you mean Mark Blundell above?

Hungrymc

6,674 posts

138 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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SeeFive said:
You do realise don't you that when exiting the chicane, Daniel only lifted when he lost the back end on the wet offline and that there was just a little more than a cars width next to Hamilton, who was on the dry racing line?

The issue IMO was Hamilton losing it under braking and cutting the chicane - what could be viewed as gaining an advantage - essentially slowing DR as he returned to the circuit.

Completely different circumstances, both questionable in their own right. Both racing incidents though, but one more malicious than the other, and one miles off the racing line to the other, and one not leaving a cars width, and one having a massive closing speed... Etc...
I agree that this is the question. The exit was completely fair in its own right (left sufficient room, stayed on the correct line, no erratic move etc). The entrance was certainly more interesting. It seems very rare that they take the view that the defending car gained an advantage unless the pass is actually completed and the defending car regains position (DR wasn't actually very close in the braking zone after losing the back end whilst almost on top on Lewis through the tunnel). He certainly was disadvantaged on exit due to the mess he made of the entrance so maybe that's why the officials aren't interested?

I've been trying to work out how DR could have made the pass and am wondering if he needed to try and take the inside line, but he had got on the throttle earlier than Lewis and there was no room to the left at that point and if he didn't go outside would have had to lift. Had it been dry, he'd have made the pass to the outside, but in those mixed conditions it was ever so difficult.

e8_pack

1,384 posts

182 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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It is a teamsport, i understand Ric's frustrations, but drivers also cock up and lose it for the team, so it works both ways.

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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suffolk009 said:
Or did you mean Mark Blundell above?
Doh. I meant Mark. It was a weak joke anyway.

I still miss the Murray/Hunt combination off enthusiasm and calm.

Bonefish Blues

26,815 posts

224 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Has it been established what exactly went wrong with DR's pit stop?

glazbagun

14,281 posts

198 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Bonefish Blues said:
Has it been established what exactly went wrong with DR's pit stop?
Iirc, the word just never got to the mechanics that a pit stop was happening!

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Bonefish Blues said:
Has it been established what exactly went wrong with DR's pit stop?
Comms between pit wall (which is actually upstairs from the garage) and the mechanics. They made a switch of tyre type 30 secs before the stop and due to the small garage and the number of wets in play, the needed tyre was right at the back of the garage... A situation unique to Monaco, but a comms error none the less.

Bonefish Blues

26,815 posts

224 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Thanks.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Vaud said:
Doh. I meant Mark. It was a weak joke anyway.

I still miss the Murray/Hunt combination off enthusiasm and calm.
Never mind, i got it and laughed smile

freddytin

1,184 posts

228 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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mollytherocker said:
Great race.

Danny Rics wrath is strangely out of character. Yes, the team cocked up but he got 2nd.

I have never seen him act like that before. Strange.
Yep, don't understand his attitude at all. What a miserable git. smile

LDN

8,911 posts

204 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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freddytin said:
mollytherocker said:
Great race.

Danny Rics wrath is strangely out of character. Yes, the team cocked up but he got 2nd.

I have never seen him act like that before. Strange.
Yep, don't understand his attitude at all. What a miserable git. smile
I understand his frustration... but it was a bit out of character to be THAT pissed off.