should the radio ban stay?

[Trabi601]

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

[poing]

It's a team sport, let them talk.

[Jasandjules]

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

For me yes.

But I think it is dangerous to have a driver screaming along at 200mph who is paying more attention to his steering wheel than the racetrack..

[vonuber]

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

Nope.

[swisstoni]

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

What's your point?

[Jasandjules]

Jasandjules said:

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

For me yes.

But I think it is dangerous to have a driver screaming along at 200mph who is paying more attention to his steering wheel than the racetrack..

ETA - and wasn't Kimi also having problems?

[Trabi601]

swisstoni said:

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

What's your point?

You tell me. I think it's quite obvious.

[Adrian W]

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

Yes, from memory there were three drivers with this problem and it has happened at other races

Edited by Adrian W on Tuesday 21st June 07:28

[HarryFlatters]

Jasandjules said:

Jasandjules said:

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

For me yes.

But I think it is dangerous to have a driver screaming along at 200mph who is paying more attention to his steering wheel than the racetrack..

ETA - and wasn't Kimi also having problems?

Nico was having the same problem.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/06/19/rosberg-engi...

[angrymoby]

Dixie said:

I'm not sure it should be allowed over radio but maybe they could give instruction via the pit board.

I agree, it's not like you can give a lot of info via a pit board, seems a bit daft but it is banned:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115888

[Trabi601]

Adrian W said:

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

Yes, from memory there were three drivers with this problem and it has happened at other races

Nico sorted his quite quickly. Nobody has questioned it at other races, until Lewis had the issue. Then it's all stamping feet and tantrums that it's not fair he couldn't be told how to fix it.

[Halmyre]

angrymoby said:

Dixie said:

I'm not sure it should be allowed over radio but maybe they could give instruction via the pit board.

I agree, it's not like you can give a lot of info via a pit board, seems a bit daft but it is banned:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115888

No coded messages. Dammit, I was looking forward to hearing

"Broadsword calling Danny Boy: wound my heart with a monotonous languor".

[Eric Mc]

"Ze fox has caught ze chicken. I repeat, ze fox has caught ze chicken ".

"Ze flowers are blooming in ze garden".

"Tell Jules zat his auntie is fine".

I think F1 could become very interesting again.

[MikeyC]

Trabi601 said:

Would this discussion be happening if it had been Nico struggling with the settings?

err... nope !

it's only when certain home-grown individuals have a problem that this becomes a 'big discussion'

lets not forget, they have previous form ...

[blueg33]

Teams should make the car simple to use/intuitive. Drivers should know how to operate their car. On track the drivers should sort it themselves. If they really can't then they can pit.

[Eric Mc]

I wonder if Pete Conrad should have received a penalty for receiving and acting on the message "SCE to Aux"?

[Halmyre]

blueg33 said:

Teams should make the car simple to use/intuitive. Drivers should know how to operate their car. On track the drivers should sort it themselves. If they really can't then they can pit.

Can't they just press F1 for 'Help', or something?


"It looks like you have an engine management problem, can I help?"

[Adrian W]

MikeyC said:

err... nope !

it's only when certain home-grown individuals have a problem that this becomes a 'big discussion'

lets not forget, they have previous form ...

Hamilton not smart enough may be appropriate.............wrong context, but made me smile

[Jasandjules]

HarryFlatters said:

Nico was having the same problem.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/06/19/rosberg-engi...

However he had recently made the switch so just switched back as I understand it.

Lewis didn't have that.

And regardless of who has the problem, I don't think "engine is in wrong mode but it in actually go fast mode" is telling them how to drive, whereas brake 100ft later into turn 12 is....

[Trabi601]

My view is this.

If the car is too complicated for your driver to understand it, then you have to make it easier to operate.

Alternatively, if you think it's not actually that complicated, but your driver is too thick to understand it - replace the driver with someone who does.

Allowing radio messages isn't the solution.