Jensons future
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He is a glorified reserve driver.... a role not really suitable for a former champion.... IMO if he couldn't get a drive he should have left with a bit of dignity. Now he is in danger of turning into a Barrichello type figure, hanging around desperately touting himself for a drive at every GP.
VolvoT5 said:
Of course this covers McLaren's arse should Alonso flounce out after winter testing if he discovers the car is a pile of poo.
Yup. They kind of have the best of both worlds. Not sure why Jenson is doing this but I suspect the money is good....If Stoffel stuffs it up (which frankly I doubt, I expect he will match Alonso at least) then they can bin him and put Jenson back in the car, or if Alonso decides to walk........
Knew it would come this year or next but still gutted, last weekend at Spa was the last time I got to see him race, and I didn't even get to see him race.
He's just there in case Fernando decides to walk if the car isn't any better next year, I don't blame him for not going anywhere else as it's not like he would've been able to sign for a winning team.
Maybe he could drive again in 18 if Fernando retires. Not sure who else they could sign, Ricciardo? Hulkenberg? Vettel?
He's just there in case Fernando decides to walk if the car isn't any better next year, I don't blame him for not going anywhere else as it's not like he would've been able to sign for a winning team.
Maybe he could drive again in 18 if Fernando retires. Not sure who else they could sign, Ricciardo? Hulkenberg? Vettel?
Edited by AXlawrence on Saturday 3rd September 17:18
Blib said:
BUG4LIFE said:
Top Gear next year then!
From one outfit surviving on past glories to another. Seems a bit of an ignoble end to His career - going out with whimper, drifting away rather than announcing his retirement and celebrating his career like massa has done?
He can still retire and be reserve driver/ambassador etc, come back to help macca in hour if need etc and thered be no shame in that.
Either you want to race or you don't.
He still wants to race, but hasn't got a seat. No-one else will meet his wage demands even if they were interested.
So all he's left with is hanging around the garages like Schumacher did when he retired, wanting to be back in the car.
He's kidding himself about a 2018 drive.
As others have said its hardly a dignified end to a solid career.
He still wants to race, but hasn't got a seat. No-one else will meet his wage demands even if they were interested.
So all he's left with is hanging around the garages like Schumacher did when he retired, wanting to be back in the car.
He's kidding himself about a 2018 drive.
As others have said its hardly a dignified end to a solid career.
Bradgate said:
Daz68 said:
Back up in case Alonso gets fed up and leaves?
McLaren are covering themselves in case Alonso doesn't fancy another season of 'hoping to get into Q3' if next year's car is off the pace.
Crafty_ said:
Either you want to race or you don't.
He still wants to race, but hasn't got a seat. No-one else will meet his wage demands even if they were interested.
So all he's left with is hanging around the garages like Schumacher did when he retired, wanting to be back in the car.
He's kidding himself about a 2018 drive.
As others have said its hardly a dignified end to a solid career.
Doubt he cares. He's still going to get paid by McLaren, enjoy a bunch of time with friends and family, keep the door slightly open for the odd race here and there...not a bad way for a 36 year old to enjoy semi-retirement!He still wants to race, but hasn't got a seat. No-one else will meet his wage demands even if they were interested.
So all he's left with is hanging around the garages like Schumacher did when he retired, wanting to be back in the car.
He's kidding himself about a 2018 drive.
As others have said its hardly a dignified end to a solid career.
BUG4LIFE said:
Doubt he cares. He's still going to get paid by McLaren, enjoy a bunch of time with friends and family, keep the door slightly open for the odd race here and there...not a bad way for a 36 year old to enjoy semi-retirement!
Don't think he is enjoying any of this. He doesn't want to retire.Crafty_ said:
Either you want to race or you don't.
He still wants to race, but hasn't got a seat. No-one else will meet his wage demands even if they were interested.
So all he's left with is hanging around the garages like Schumacher did when he retired, wanting to be back in the car.
He's kidding himself about a 2018 drive.
As others have said its hardly a dignified end to a solid career.
And IIRC that didn't work out well for Ferrari as he ended up guiding the development of the car in a way that interfered with the relationship between the team and Raikkonen who was supposed to be the lead driver at that point. He still wants to race, but hasn't got a seat. No-one else will meet his wage demands even if they were interested.
So all he's left with is hanging around the garages like Schumacher did when he retired, wanting to be back in the car.
He's kidding himself about a 2018 drive.
As others have said its hardly a dignified end to a solid career.
VolvoT5 said:
And IIRC that didn't work out well for Ferrari as he ended up guiding the development of the car in a way that interfered with the relationship between the team and Raikkonen who was supposed to be the lead driver at that point.
You're correct. Was it after Monaco 2007 when Christian Dyer drastically changed the car to suit Kimi?I've bought Motor Sport and just seen the 'Is Kimi worth it?' piece on the front cover. I'll be reading the Sir JYS and Zanardi articles first.
Edited by carinaman on Saturday 3rd September 18:41
carinaman said:
You're correct. Was it Monaco 2007 when Christian Dyer drastically changed the car to suit Kimi?
I've bought Motor Sport and just seen the 'Is Kimi worth it?' piece on the front cover. I'll be reading the Sir JYS and Zanardi articles first.
Yes I think you are correct. Although I was actually thinking more of 2008 when Michael was put in charge of the development side of the car and in conjunction with Ferrari developed a front suspension update that Raikkonen simply couldn't get on with....... so mid season he scored virtually nothing for several races until he was allowed to go back to the old set up. Apparently Kimi wasn't even informed of this suspension change and spent several races trying to figure out WTF was going on. Or so the story goes. I've bought Motor Sport and just seen the 'Is Kimi worth it?' piece on the front cover. I'll be reading the Sir JYS and Zanardi articles first.
My point really is that having Jenson there to develop the car means effectively having 3 big fish in the pond which may not be a good thing.
llewop said:
Given Alonso's recent history in getting himself crocked
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