The Official 2016 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
Discussion
CraigyMc said:
MartG said:
Flooble said:
As noted on the other thread, you can replace almost everything in the gearbox (like, er, gears) so it's highly unlikely he will have a penalty since the car still had drive all the way to the end.
Slightly off topic - one of the Indycars had a gearbox issue during last Sunday's race - it pitted and they swapped the gear pack and had him out again in not much over 5 minutes !http://www.crash.net/le-mans/news/139855/1/audi-ma...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgl9y7jmdxE
Edited by glazbagun on Saturday 16th July 15:30
cgt2 said:
I'm convinced Max is going to be right up the sharp end. It's a very Red Bull focused track and last year he went from 9th to 4th, one place behind Ricciardo. Yes the Mercs had problems but with the way he is driving now he has to be a contender for a win on merit.
I can see Max pulling a pass on this track in one of those places where people say it's impossible (as Mansell did on Senna in the 1989 Hungarian GP whilst lapping Johansson).
If Max beats Ricciardo again there are going to be some fireworks at Red Bull though.
I think we shouldn't get too carried away. When Ricciardo beat Vettel he was proclaimed to be a future multiple WDC. Now the same thing is happening with Max. Don't get me wrong, Max is quite a talent, but I think it's too early to think he's the next messiah.I can see Max pulling a pass on this track in one of those places where people say it's impossible (as Mansell did on Senna in the 1989 Hungarian GP whilst lapping Johansson).
If Max beats Ricciardo again there are going to be some fireworks at Red Bull though.
VladD said:
I think we shouldn't get too carried away. When Ricciardo beat Vettel he was proclaimed to be a future multiple WDC. Now the same thing is happening with Max. Don't get me wrong, Max is quite a talent, but I think it's too early to think he's the next messiah.
I certainly didn't think so as Vettel was clearly off form that season. Whereas Ricciardo is pushing like hell at the moment.cgt2 said:
VladD said:
I think we shouldn't get too carried away. When Ricciardo beat Vettel he was proclaimed to be a future multiple WDC. Now the same thing is happening with Max. Don't get me wrong, Max is quite a talent, but I think it's too early to think he's the next messiah.
I certainly didn't think so as Vettel was clearly off form that season. Whereas Ricciardo is pushing like hell at the moment.VladD said:
cgt2 said:
VladD said:
I think we shouldn't get too carried away. When Ricciardo beat Vettel he was proclaimed to be a future multiple WDC. Now the same thing is happening with Max. Don't get me wrong, Max is quite a talent, but I think it's too early to think he's the next messiah.
I certainly didn't think so as Vettel was clearly off form that season. Whereas Ricciardo is pushing like hell at the moment.deadslow said:
VladD said:
cgt2 said:
VladD said:
I think we shouldn't get too carried away. When Ricciardo beat Vettel he was proclaimed to be a future multiple WDC. Now the same thing is happening with Max. Don't get me wrong, Max is quite a talent, but I think it's too early to think he's the next messiah.
I certainly didn't think so as Vettel was clearly off form that season. Whereas Ricciardo is pushing like hell at the moment.
Jasandjules said:
Gutted that I have so much on this weekend I am having to tape this and watch it Monday... Going to have to stay off the internet! I am expecting a cracking race though, fingers crossed for a little light rain to spice it up..
Hopefully no rain until after the start. Don't want another safety car fiasco.cgt2 said:
VladD said:
I think we shouldn't get too carried away. When Ricciardo beat Vettel he was proclaimed to be a future multiple WDC. Now the same thing is happening with Max. Don't get me wrong, Max is quite a talent, but I think it's too early to think he's the next messiah.
I certainly didn't think so as Vettel was clearly off form that season. Whereas Ricciardo is pushing like hell at the moment.
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Saturday is supposed to be hot and sunny, but some weather appears to be developing for the race day. The tarmac for the circuit has been completely relaid so it will be an important factor in understanding the tyres in the practice sessions, but some rain is predicted for tomorrow.
Combination of new tarmac and ambient temp in the low thirties, I expect track temp in the mid to high 40s...would not discount Ferrari here. Clearly up to something ordering so many Super softs, trying to learn as much as possible to get them in the sweet spot.
There's this stat doing the rounds in GP previews: since 2005, the winner of the Hungarian GP had never gone on to win the WDC that year. A kiss of death?
Combination of new tarmac and ambient temp in the low thirties, I expect track temp in the mid to high 40s...would not discount Ferrari here. Clearly up to something ordering so many Super softs, trying to learn as much as possible to get them in the sweet spot.
There's this stat doing the rounds in GP previews: since 2005, the winner of the Hungarian GP had never gone on to win the WDC that year. A kiss of death?
suffolk009 said:
I'm seeing some tweets that the radio usage rules has been reconsidered for this weekend. Any one have details?
From motorsport.com:motorsport.com said:
From now on, if a team warns a driver that there is a problem with the car it must include an instruction that forces the driver to come into the pits for necessary repairs.
This will automatically result in a hefty time penalty that would discourage any team using a potential safety issue for performance benefits.
The new FIA note says that a permitted message is: "Indication of a problem with the car, any message of this sort must include an irreversible instruction to enter the pits to rectify the problem or to retire the car."
A newly-worded part referencing what is allowed states: "Instructions to select driver defaults, this must be for the sole purpose of mitigating loss of function of a sensor, actuator or controller whose degradation or failure was not detected and handled by the onboard software.
"It will be the responsibility of any team giving any such instruction to satisfy the FIA technical delegate that this was the case and that any new setting chosen in this way did not enhance the performance of the car beyond that prior to the loss of function (see Article 8.2.4 of the Technical Regulations)."
Rules on information about car damage have also been tightened up, with teams now only allowed to tell drivers about broken 'bodywork' rather than other components.
Another change is that the FIA radio restrictions will now only count when the car is out of the pitlane, rather than simply out of the garage as had been in place before.
This in theory means that if drivers are coming down the pitlane with a critical problem then they can receive instructions to fix the issue without the need to go into the garage.
This will automatically result in a hefty time penalty that would discourage any team using a potential safety issue for performance benefits.
The new FIA note says that a permitted message is: "Indication of a problem with the car, any message of this sort must include an irreversible instruction to enter the pits to rectify the problem or to retire the car."
A newly-worded part referencing what is allowed states: "Instructions to select driver defaults, this must be for the sole purpose of mitigating loss of function of a sensor, actuator or controller whose degradation or failure was not detected and handled by the onboard software.
"It will be the responsibility of any team giving any such instruction to satisfy the FIA technical delegate that this was the case and that any new setting chosen in this way did not enhance the performance of the car beyond that prior to the loss of function (see Article 8.2.4 of the Technical Regulations)."
Rules on information about car damage have also been tightened up, with teams now only allowed to tell drivers about broken 'bodywork' rather than other components.
Another change is that the FIA radio restrictions will now only count when the car is out of the pitlane, rather than simply out of the garage as had been in place before.
This in theory means that if drivers are coming down the pitlane with a critical problem then they can receive instructions to fix the issue without the need to go into the garage.
Dr Z said:
There's this stat doing the rounds in GP previews: since 2005, the winner of the Hungarian GP had never gone on to win the WDC that year. A kiss of death?
Look at it another way - Hungary gives opportunities for drivers that are not front-running championship favourites to win races?snotrag said:
Dr Z said:
There's this stat doing the rounds in GP previews: since 2005, the winner of the Hungarian GP had never gone on to win the WDC that year. A kiss of death?
Look at it another way - Hungary gives opportunities for drivers that are not front-running championship favourites to win races? I'm going with chaos theory.sandman77 said:
You do surprise me. 
I, on the other hand, would like to see them race each other without penalties involved.
Normally, I'd like them to race, knowing full well that Lewis would beat Nico in a fair fight 9/10 times. I, on the other hand, would like to see them race each other without penalties involved.
However, considering Nico is incompetent at defending and racecraft in general, I don't want that fool anywhere near the guy I support, in case he takes him out again.
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