The Official 2016 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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satans worm said:
I hope it sticks, with Hamilton on pole I'm sure he would just run away with it, however with him behind rosberg means there could be an interesting overtaking situation coming up:-)
I'm picturing another first lap collision into turn 2 or 3 and Ricciardo coming through to win. Adrian W said:
TonyToniTone said:
Two waved yellow flags at the same post means that drivers must slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary.
Is a slight lift considered slowing car, is that even possible setting a purple sector?
If they allow NR to get away with this they will all be doing itIs a slight lift considered slowing car, is that even possible setting a purple sector?
Jez
PS My new mac doesn't seem to believe that I'm called "Jez" and not "Jen".
cgt2 said:
Rich kids always expect everything to be given to them. He really doesn't have any humility at all.
Contrast with Ricciardo's earlier comments about Verstappen saying how good his young teammate is. You either have class or you don't.
What about when he was on his sixth straight victory and told that everyone to win six straight races has gone on to win the championship? He responded that those other drivers didn't have Lewis Hamilton in the other car.Contrast with Ricciardo's earlier comments about Verstappen saying how good his young teammate is. You either have class or you don't.
TonyToniTone said:
Massive difference between LH and NR in double yellow zone, LH slowed car enough to be able to stop, NR lifted.
Question is did LH slow too much or NR not enough?
Lewis came onto it as it happened Nico later, also Seb went to get on with it but was held up by Jenson not reacting soon enough & getting going.Question is did LH slow too much or NR not enough?
Maybe it's a German thing where they understand the rules better, Hulkenberg's tiny lift in Austria.
glazbagun said:
What about when he was on his sixth straight victory and told that everyone to win six straight races has gone on to win the championship? He responded that those other drivers didn't have Lewis Hamilton in the other car.
That's not exactly humble, it is self ego stroking with a dose of forgetfulness.He neglected to mention that the majority of his wins came as a result of problems for Hamilton and that he has never successfully passed him on track to take a win in a battle for the lead..
ZX10R NIN said:
Lewis came onto it as it happened Nico later, also Seb went to get on with it but was held up by Jenson not reacting soon enough & getting going.
Maybe it's a German thing where they understand the rules better, Hulkenberg's tiny lift in Austria.
NO! the rules mean slow down and be prepared to stop. If lewis had kept his foot in and only slowed slightly with alonso on the side of the track he would be banged to rights. Nico had no idea what was around the corner with double yellows and gained an advantage by doing it. Personally think he should have the lap deleted and be dropped to second....let's face it, you run wide and get penalised for gaining an advantage and that's less dangerous than going around a blind corner under a yellow and gaining an advantage by not preparing to stop....Maybe it's a German thing where they understand the rules better, Hulkenberg's tiny lift in Austria.
37chevy said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Lewis came onto it as it happened Nico later, also Seb went to get on with it but was held up by Jenson not reacting soon enough & getting going.
Maybe it's a German thing where they understand the rules better, Hulkenberg's tiny lift in Austria.
NO! the rules mean slow down and be prepared to stop. If lewis had kept his foot in and only slowed slightly with alonso on the side of the track he would be banged to rights. Nico had no idea what was around the corner with double yellows and gained an advantage by doing it. Personally think he should have the lap deleted and be dropped to second....let's face it, you run wide and get penalised for gaining an advantage and that's less dangerous than going around a blind corner under a yellow and gaining an advantage by not preparing to stop....Maybe it's a German thing where they understand the rules better, Hulkenberg's tiny lift in Austria.
37chevy said:
NO! the rules mean slow down and be prepared to stop. If lewis had kept his foot in and only slowed slightly with alonso on the side of the track he would be banged to rights. Nico had no idea what was around the corner with double yellows and gained an advantage by doing it. Personally think he should have the lap deleted and be dropped to second....let's face it, you run wide and get penalised for gaining an advantage and that's less dangerous than going around a blind corner under a yellow and gaining an advantage by not preparing to stop....
I have to agree with you.cgt2 said:
Rich kids always expect everything to be given to them. He really doesn't have any humility at all.
Contrast with Ricciardo's earlier comments about Verstappen saying how good his young teammate is. You either have class or you don't.
Class like Hamilton referring to Rosberg as 'him' multiple times, when talking to Max Verstappen in the room before they all went on the podium after the British Grand Prix?Contrast with Ricciardo's earlier comments about Verstappen saying how good his young teammate is. You either have class or you don't.
Does that mean Lewis has class or he doesn't?
HustleRussell said:
Yellow flags aside, that was fantastically opportunistic by Rosberg- he was completely unperturbed by all the slow traffic in front, managed to elbow his way through and clinch pole.
Steal pole, not clinch it! Everyone else slowed down and followed the rules. They'd have all improved otherwise.....rosbergs pole was down to good luck not good driving, no doubt if it was the other way around all the hammy haters would be screaming holy murder right now! :-pSuperbad said:
Class like Hamilton referring to Rosberg as 'him' multiple times, when talking to Max Verstappen in the room before they all went on the podium after the British Grand Prix?
Does that mean Lewis has class or he doesn't?
Probably as much class as Rosberg referring to lewis as my teammate rather than Lewis all the time. It's almost as though Rosberg can't stand to say lewis. Does that mean Lewis has class or he doesn't?
It's all inter team rivalry and mind games
37chevy said:
NO! the rules mean slow down and be prepared to stop. If lewis had kept his foot in and only slowed slightly with alonso on the side of the track he would be banged to rights. Nico had no idea what was around the corner with double yellows and gained an advantage by doing it. Personally think he should have the lap deleted and be dropped to second....let's face it, you run wide and get penalised for gaining an advantage and that's less dangerous than going around a blind corner under a yellow and gaining an advantage by not preparing to stop....
If you watch the on board the yellows are off when he gets on it so he didn't break any rules also an F1 car can stop on sixpence so as long as his foot was covering the brake pedal he would've been prepared to stop.If Lewis had done this would anyone really been complaining?
I see it at as having a good presence of mind & it shows me the level that F1 drivers work on.
reminded me of something Schumacher would've pulled off, like overtaking between the safety car line and the start / finish line in that Monaco race restart. satans worm said:
I hope it sticks, with Hamilton on pole I'm sure he would just run away with it, however with him behind rosberg means there could be an interesting overtaking situation coming up:-)
Agree with this, no idea why all the LH fans get so upset when something doesn't go their chosen driver's way.I don't have a dog in the fight as I haven't supported any particular driver for years but am bewildered by the amount of angst shown here sometimes. Hamilton will start about 50 yards back from Rosberg, with 190 miles to make up that difference - if he is so good (and I do think he a great driver), that surely can't be beyond his reach.
Should hopefully add a bit of interest too rather than watching someone clear off into the distance from pole as has happened so many times before.
ZX10R NIN said:
If you watch the on board the yellows are off when he gets on it so he didn't break any rules also an F1 car can stop on sixpence so as long as his foot was covering the brake pedal he would've been prepared to stop.
If Lewis had done this would anyone really been complaining?
I see it at as having a good presence of mind & it shows me the level that F1 drivers work on.
I've seen it now and he passes double waved yellows with a lift. But he still went purple, which demonstrates the pace at which the track was improving. But 'prepared to stop' - no chance. He's back on the power before the green flag / light can be seen. If Lewis had done this would anyone really been complaining?
I see it at as having a good presence of mind & it shows me the level that F1 drivers work on.
The problem I see is that we continue to see penalties for the outcome of the crime, not for the crime itself. Let's say Rosberg smashes into something - he gets a massive penalty. But the crime is the same. I've said this on and off since Brazil where Alonso was the guilty party. Yellow flag deltas need to be significant. Continued failure to enforce this ultimately cost Bianchi his life and now we don't race in the rain. But if yellow flags were properly enforced, we'd never have had this problem.
Jez
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