The Official 2016 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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rdjohn

6,316 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Nigel_O said:
ignoring the rights or wrongs of Rosberg on pole for a moment, surely the end result is that we have a race on our hands (presuming of course that there's no repeats of some earlier battles)

Surely, what we all REALLY want to see, is some hard, fair, wheel-to-wheel racing, preferably without either car going off.
Do we really believe that Mercedes internal rules actually allow for that? For all the talk, there is very little evidence to suggest it is permitted. Quite the opposite, in reality.

Gary C

12,972 posts

184 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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rdjohn said:
Nigel_O said:
ignoring the rights or wrongs of Rosberg on pole for a moment, surely the end result is that we have a race on our hands (presuming of course that there's no repeats of some earlier battles)

Surely, what we all REALLY want to see, is some hard, fair, wheel-to-wheel racing, preferably without either car going off.
Do we really believe that Mercedes internal rules actually allow for that? For all the talk, there is very little evidence to suggest it is permitted. Quite the opposite, in reality.
?, if mercs rules don't allow it, then their boys ignore it anyway smile

Could be a good race today.

Adrian W

14,312 posts

233 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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I recon the GP2 drivers watched GP3 and thought we can't have a precession like that and bang, I wonder how the F1 first lap will be

Flooble

5,567 posts

105 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Given his driver's propensity for crashing into each other, perhaps the person who referred Nico to the stewards was Toto Wolff wink

I can imagine this morning he's got his head in his hands, just waiting for the first turn crash ...

cgt2

7,138 posts

193 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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If Rosberg can for once display some solid racecraft and battle hard without taking Hamilton off then I will gladly rescind my comments about him.

Doubt it will happen though...biggrin

suffolk009

5,670 posts

170 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Gary C said:
The 107 investigation almost seems like a smokescreen, but in the end I can't see how they could have made any other decision on Rosberg.

But, in the next race they must do something about the double yellow rule.

In this case I don't think marshals were on the track, but doubles can cover them being on track and as such, surely they must set a max speed in a double yellow zone ?
I think that's inevitable now.

Flooble

5,567 posts

105 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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suffolk009 said:
Gary C said:
The 107 investigation almost seems like a smokescreen, but in the end I can't see how they could have made any other decision on Rosberg.

But, in the next race they must do something about the double yellow rule.

In this case I don't think marshals were on the track, but doubles can cover them being on track and as such, surely they must set a max speed in a double yellow zone ?
I think that's inevitable now.
VSC already exists, can't see it being difficult to extend the implementation?

Adrian W

14,312 posts

233 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Ok, watched GP3 and GP2 after the first lap bumps that was it,

From the commentators point of view the highlight seems to be if drivers go off track at turn four, nothing else to talk about, this track is past its sell by date

Let's count the on track overtakes in F1

Flooble

5,567 posts

105 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Adrian W said:
Ok, watched GP3 and GP2 after the first lap bumps that was it,

From the commentators point of view the highlight seems to be if drivers go off track at turn four, nothing else to talk about, this track is past its sell by date

Let's count the on track overtakes in F1
You're expecting some then?

hairyben

8,516 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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rdjohn said:
Do we really believe that Mercedes internal rules actually allow for that? For all the talk, there is very little evidence to suggest it is permitted. Quite the opposite, in reality.
Nico can't and Hamilton just ignores orders and goes for it.

Sadly I think mercs race being decided by nicos corsa-on-roudabout racecraft is pretty likely.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

169 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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I hope Red bull get in amongst them and we might just see a proper GP with overtaking .

NJK44

1,364 posts

101 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Nigel_O said:
ignoring the rights or wrongs of Rosberg on pole for a moment, surely the end result is that we have a race on our hands (presuming of course that there's no repeats of some earlier battles)

Surely, what we all REALLY want to see, is some hard, fair, wheel-to-wheel racing, preferably without either car going off.
Unlikely with Nico behind the wheel.

He'll either crash into Lewis or make a mistake hehe

deadslow

8,196 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
Nigel_O said:
ignoring the rights or wrongs of Rosberg on pole for a moment, surely the end result is that we have a race on our hands (presuming of course that there's no repeats of some earlier battles)

Surely, what we all REALLY want to see, is some hard, fair, wheel-to-wheel racing, preferably without either car going off.
Unlikely with Nico behind the wheel.

He'll either crash into Lewis or make a mistake hehe
would you bet another £50 on it? rofl

FourWheelDrift

89,308 posts

289 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Red Bull won the best drivers cars at the circuit. Couple of Aston Martins. Lewis with 2 MV Brutale bikes, Nico with a plugin hybrid mpv.

Smollet

11,288 posts

195 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Flooble said:
Adrian W said:
Ok, watched GP3 and GP2 after the first lap bumps that was it,

From the commentators point of view the highlight seems to be if drivers go off track at turn four, nothing else to talk about, this track is past its sell by date

Let's count the on track overtakes in F1
You're expecting some then?
If it rains then yes otherwise ................

deadslow

8,196 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
I appreciate your point and it is a good one.

But...For all the tons of criticism he gets, Hamilton will often say ''I messed up''. As does Vettel, regularly. Ricciardo has only this week said, graciously, that Max has pushed him hard and beat him fairly. Even Max, at his young age, was asked about his ability and he said that he is still learning, has a long way to go yet and appreciates being in a team with a driver as good as Ricciardo.
I find NR to be very straightforward in admitting when he has been beaten by the better man. I have no horse in the merc race.

cgt2 said:
For Rosberg to make a preposterous statement, as he did, that ''Everyone knows I have been the best driver in the first half of the season'' is just pushing it beyond the realm of credibility (which appeared to be the reaction when he made the remark).
would you prefer to drop the points system, and have the title awarded by, say, a committee of LH fans? hehe

Otispunkmeyer

12,873 posts

160 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Smollet said:
Flooble said:
Adrian W said:
Ok, watched GP3 and GP2 after the first lap bumps that was it,

From the commentators point of view the highlight seems to be if drivers go off track at turn four, nothing else to talk about, this track is past its sell by date

Let's count the on track overtakes in F1
You're expecting some then?
If it rains then yes otherwise ................
No chance of rain according to Wunderground. 28 Dec C, some clouds in the sky, but looks to be a nice hot sunny day there. I only saw a few clips of qualy and it looked like it did a weeks worth of rain in Q1 so the sky is now dry!

suffolk009

5,670 posts

170 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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hairyben said:
Nico can't and Hamilton just ignores orders and goes for it.

Sadly I think mercs race being decided by nicos corsa-on-roudabout racecraft is pretty likely.
I expect Merc's pit-wall will do their best to keep them apart.

cgt2

7,138 posts

193 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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deadslow said:
would you prefer to drop the points system, and have the title awarded by, say, a committee of LH fans? hehe
Not at all. I think you are exaggerating things just a tad there smile

Sounds like you do have a horse in the Merc race.

deadslow

8,196 posts

228 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
deadslow said:
would you prefer to drop the points system, and have the title awarded by, say, a committee of LH fans? hehe
Not at all. I think you are exaggerating things just a tad there smile

Sounds like you do have a horse in the Merc race.
sorry to disappoint. Alonso/Button for the win smile