The Official 2016 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 Hungarian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

152 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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enjo said:
https://twitter.com/danielricciardo/status/7575171...
Nice to see them seeming to enjoy each others company.
Yeah, they have a nice little group along with Webber when he's at a race. Often see lots of Twitter posts of them on a plane, having dinner etc.

HustleRussell

24,602 posts

159 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
This is why we need bog standards cars, refuelling, and infinite tyres!
That's not F1. In fact it's a surefire way to kill it.

CoolHands

18,496 posts

194 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Why don't they have a minimum amount of fuel they have to start with? That way they would have an incentive to drive more quickly to burn it off

eccles

13,721 posts

221 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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More high class, well researched journalism from the Huff post!

http://www.aol.co.uk/sport/2016/07/24/hamilton-lab...

kambites

67,462 posts

220 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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CoolHands said:
Why don't they have a minimum amount of fuel they have to start with? That way they would have an incentive to drive more quickly to burn it off
Because a huge part of the reason the engine manufacturers are in the sport is to prove to potential shopping-car customers that they can make cars both fast and economical. Same reason they're running hybrid turbos rather than larger capacity naturally aspirated units.

Clevers

1,171 posts

200 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
It's very possible that by the end of September Hamilton will be second only to Schumacher in the all time winners list.

I remember growing up I thought Prost and Senna's win and pole records would stand forever. As Lewis is still relatively young it's entirely possible he will win another 25 races in his career and take the all time record.

Love him or hate him that is quite an achievement and does not happen by accident.
Erm....another 25 race wins would still leave Lewis 19 victories short of beating Schumacher's mark.

Basically, Lewis needs to double his career success to date to match Schuey. Who knows, but I suspect younger men will come along to challenge sooner or later and Red Bull will challenge again in the near future with an embryo driving the car.

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Not the most exciting race...

Still, to me Lewis simply had his engine turned down. As soon as Nico got close, he turned it back up, streaked off, then turned it back down again. He was just p***ng all over Nico's chips...

Max, I still can't quite decide if that was two moves or a back to the racing line.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

94 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Comparisons are pointless - Hamilton may surpass Schumacher's win total - we're now racing with up to 5 races more in a season than we were back then - same applies to Senna, Prost, Mansell, Piquet etc.

Also, going back to the 80s, the playing field was a lot flatter - remember 1986? - 4 drivers up for the title in the last round.

Age also comes into it - Hamilton has come into the sport in the era of the younger driver - and he is now considered to have started at a fairly mature age! And with the cars being less physically demanding to drive, it's entirely possible that you can remain competitive for longer, if you manage to hang onto a decent drive. Max could potentially have a 20 year F1 career - that's almost unheard of.

eccles

13,721 posts

221 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Jasandjules said:
Not the most exciting race...

Still, to me Lewis simply had his engine turned down. As soon as Nico got close, he turned it back up, streaked off, then turned it back down again. He was just p***ng all over Nico's chips...

Max, I still can't quite decide if that was two moves or a back to the racing line.
For most of the race the gap was stable at a couple of seconds or so, that's hardly streaking off!

hora

37,011 posts

210 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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eccles said:
For most of the race the gap was stable at a couple of seconds or so, that's hardly streaking off!
Funnily Nico called lifting off 100th sec as braking alot in qualifying

jm doc

2,776 posts

231 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Jasandjules said:
Not the most exciting race...

Still, to me Lewis simply had his engine turned down. As soon as Nico got close, he turned it back up, streaked off, then turned it back down again. He was just p***ng all over Nico's chips...

Max, I still can't quite decide if that was two moves or a back to the racing line.
Definitely a move back to the racing line to turn in for the corner in my book! And brilliantly timed so he could claim that...

jm doc

2,776 posts

231 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Superbad said:
Lewis Hamilton had denied that a conversation he had with the FIA's Charlie Whiting had an influence on the decision by the stewards to investigate Nico Rosberg over the yellow flag issue in Hungarian GP qualifying.

The stewards had initially decided not to conduct a formal investigation into Rosberg's pole lap.

However, the German was summoned by an FIA document timed at 7.16pm, over three hours after qualifying ended, after new evidence emerged.

FIA sources have indicated that Hamilton had been in contact and that the new evidence was provided by him.



Full story:

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-denies-...
That's actually the first time I have seen anyone mention the fact there was still a yelllow flag showing after turn 8, on the approach to turn 9. I find it quite extraordinary that this has not been raised until now because Rosberg may have lifted fractionally through turn 8, but he went flat through turn 9 and should undoubtedly have had a penalty. (for both actually!)

cgt2

7,093 posts

187 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Clevers said:
Erm....another 25 race wins would still leave Lewis 19 victories short of beating Schumacher's mark.

Basically, Lewis needs to double his career success to date to match Schuey. Who knows, but I suspect younger men will come along to challenge sooner or later and Red Bull will challenge again in the near future with an embryo driving the car.
Oops, I meant to say 45!

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

97 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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jm doc said:
Superbad said:
Lewis Hamilton had denied that a conversation he had with the FIA's Charlie Whiting had an influence on the decision by the stewards to investigate Nico Rosberg over the yellow flag issue in Hungarian GP qualifying.

The stewards had initially decided not to conduct a formal investigation into Rosberg's pole lap.

However, the German was summoned by an FIA document timed at 7.16pm, over three hours after qualifying ended, after new evidence emerged.

FIA sources have indicated that Hamilton had been in contact and that the new evidence was provided by him.



Full story:

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-denies-...
That's actually the first time I have seen anyone mention the fact there was still a yelllow flag showing after turn 8, on the approach to turn 9. I find it quite extraordinary that this has not been raised until now because Rosberg may have lifted fractionally through turn 8, but he went flat through turn 9 and should undoubtedly have had a penalty. (for both actually!)
Jules Bianchi have they forgotten him already.

Z3MCJez

531 posts

171 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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jm doc said:
That's actually the first time I have seen anyone mention the fact there was still a yelllow flag showing after turn 8, on the approach to turn 9. I find it quite extraordinary that this has not been raised until now because Rosberg may have lifted fractionally through turn 8, but he went flat through turn 9 and should undoubtedly have had a penalty. (for both actually!)
What?!? I raised this on this very thread!!!

Jez 😎

Catatafish

1,361 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Sylvaforever said:
Jules Bianchi have they forgotten him already.
Maybe cynical, but the pattern of woeful inconsistency suggests that safety does not drive any of the decisions. Does Bernie rubber stamp each ruling to suit his own idea of a 'spectacle' ?

Jasandjules

69,825 posts

228 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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eccles said:
For most of the race the gap was stable at a couple of seconds or so, that's hardly streaking off!
I take your point, but he did enough to keep a 2 second or so gap, sufficient to ensure no DRS. And I also imagine that was then time to turn the engine back down to save it. So streaking off out of Nico's range IYSWIM..

HustleRussell

24,602 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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To me there's no doubt Rosberg could've gone faster if Hamilton hadn't been immediately in front of him. Hamilton was basically cruising though. He would've been aware that he was backing Nico up but as per the China 2015 quote, wouldn't have cared in the slightest.

glazbagun

14,259 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Also with Hamilton's PU issue he'll probably be cruising as much as possible for the rest of the season.

suffolk009

5,344 posts

164 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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^^ I think the idea is to win as slowly as possible.