Would it matter if?

Would it matter if?

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tight fart

Original Poster:

2,868 posts

272 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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At each race the 3 compounds available were just referred to as,,
Soft
Medium &
Hard?.
This crap about softs and super softs drives me mad, it's like having an amp made that goes to 11!!!!!

parabolica

6,703 posts

183 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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IIRC there was a race this season where 3 compounds were available instead of the usual 2. Anyway I doubt it would make any difference; the teams have a pretty good idea of the optimum + second best tyres for each circuit. You'd just see the teams taking the same tyres as each other.

blueST

4,378 posts

215 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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tight fart said:
At each race the 3 compounds available were just referred to as,,
Soft
Medium &
Hard?.
This crap about softs and super softs drives me mad, it's like having an amp made that goes to 11!!!!!
You mean, they are always called soft, medium and hard at every race, even if it is not always the same softness, mediumness and hardness each weekend? I too have thought this would be a wise idea. Can we start a petition?

Mastodon2

13,818 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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What about the fans who actually want to know what tyres are being used? Why does everything have to be dumbed down?

poing

8,743 posts

199 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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It would sure make the screen graphics easier rather than yellow S, red S and M. Then they get onto used or not used and it gets worse.

Although if I had my way there would only be 1 tyre type at each race and it everyone would be forced to have 2 stops minimum to stop all the tyre saving rubbish, just get out there and drive flat out.

Z3MCJez

531 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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parabolica said:
IIRC there was a race this season where 3 compounds were available instead of the usual 2. Anyway I doubt it would make any difference; the teams have a pretty good idea of the optimum + second best tyres for each circuit. You'd just see the teams taking the same tyres as each other.
EVERY race this year.

I actually think that just calling them soft, medium and hard on the day is the right answer. I don't care which compound set they have taken, and those that do can easily find out.

What they do need to do is make the hardest compound vaguely competitive though.

Jez

williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Didn't they used to be called "option" and "prime", regardless of which was the soft, medium, hard, supersoft, mister soft, well 'ard and softly-softly at each race

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

226 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Like so many things in life if you pay attention and concentrate it's actually very simple.

Z3MCJez

531 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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williamp said:
Didn't they used to be called "option" and "prime", regardless of which was the soft, medium, hard, supersoft, mister soft, well 'ard and softly-softly at each race
And that was no better!

Jez

Z3MCJez

531 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Like so many things in life if you pay attention and concentrate it's actually very simple.
Do you know the differences between the tyres, so that when they tell you which set of 3 they've chosen, you understand what difference it will make. Operating ranges etc.

For those fans, I accept, it's useful to know which set has been chosen. But those fans are going to be able to find that out anyway. Otherwise, I just don't see why they bother.

Jen

Flooble

5,565 posts

99 months

Sunday 24th July 2016
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Keep it simple for the facebook generation and just refer to them as different coloured wheels.

The commentators already tend to refer to "the red-walled supersoft tyre" so it's lovely and easy then - you can have "red wheels"; "green wheels"; "yellow wheels". None of that confusing texture stuff, just some simple colour coding.

Particularly as soft isn't always faster than medium anyway!

KaraK

13,177 posts

208 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Like so many things in life if you pay attention and concentrate it's actually very simple.
Exactly, it really isn't complicated in the slightest.

sandman77

2,366 posts

137 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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How about we call them sticky, stickier and stickiest? Or how about we just stick with ultra soft, super soft, soft, medium and hard as that is what they are actually called?

hairyben

8,516 posts

182 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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The ultrasoft, supersoft is a little inelegant, although not really that hard to follow. soft, soft-medium, medium, medium-hard etc might be better. Or better still might to have a hardness grade of increasing numerical value from soft to hard, use say 30-40-50-60-70 and that gives scope for more tyre compounds. we could call the unit Norris. "oh he's putting on 70 Norris tyres, that'll get him to the end of the race and back home"

Sigmamark7

314 posts

160 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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How about having a tyre which lasts for the whole race? Let's cut all the undercut nonsense out, send the drivers out with a car/fuel/tyre combination that allows the race to take place on the track and that way, the best set up car with the best driver will win!
If racing improves the breed, I don't look forward to the day when my commute involves a 3 second stop to slap on another grands worth of tyres half way to the office!

HardtopManual

2,404 posts

165 months

Monday 25th July 2016
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The only bit that grates on me is that Ultra and Super only exist at one end of the scale. Really it should be:

- Super soft
- Soft
- Medium
- Hard
- Super hard

The more pressing matter for Pirelli is to make a wet tyre that can actually be used in the rain. If what's required to prevent a F1 car aquaplaning on its floor is to raise the ride height by 15mm then let's have wets that are 30mm larger in diameter.

CraigyMc

16,326 posts

235 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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HardtopManual said:
The more pressing matter for Pirelli is to make a wet tyre that can actually be used in the rain. If what's required to prevent a F1 car aquaplaning on its floor is to raise the ride height by 15mm then let's have wets that are 30mm larger in diameter.
They used to have tyres called Typhoon tyres which were like that. They weren't used for years, so ended up being dropped on cost grounds.

Flooble

5,565 posts

99 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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How many sets of Extreme Wets do they ship to a race? And how long does the rubber last on an unused wet tyre?

Set against the 20+ sets of dry tyres they produce and transport every weekend, seems like a minimal saving given that one set of Extreme Wets would probably last the entire weekend.

MiniMan64

16,863 posts

189 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Sigmamark7 said:
How about having a tyre which lasts for the whole race? Let's cut all the undercut nonsense out, send the drivers out with a car/fuel/tyre combination that allows the race to take place on the track and that way, the best set up car with the best driver will win!
If racing improves the breed, I don't look forward to the day when my commute involves a 3 second stop to slap on another grands worth of tyres half way to the office!
Because with modern aero how it is and the differences between the cars so narrow you'll find every race order finishing exactly how it finished the first lap.

Flooble

5,565 posts

99 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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MiniMan64 said:
Because with modern aero how it is and the differences between the cars so narrow you'll find every race order finishing exactly how it finished the first lap.
On the bright side, it would save a lot of time and money. You could run qualifying then go straight to the one-lap race. Get the whole thing out the way in just over an hour. Ideal for TV. Oh dear ... don't give Bernie ideas!