The Official 2016 German Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[cgt2]

BaronVonVaderham said:

No, he moves around very late in the braking phase. Read the rules.

No rule was broken as the stewards did not even bother looking at it.

Perhaps you should apply for Charlie Whiting's job? Send your CV to Mr Ecclestone, c/o FOM, Prince's Gate, London SW6.

Nice words about his MIL will help your application.

[VolvoT5]

they are already doing 1:17 flats in practice ... qualifying is going to be a lot faster than 2014

[anonymous-user]

cgt2 said:

BaronVonVaderham said:

No, he moves around very late in the braking phase. Read the rules.

No rule was broken as the stewards did not even bother looking at it.

Perhaps you should apply for Charlie Whiting's job? Send your CV to Mr Ecclestone, c/o FOM, Prince's Gate, London SW6.

Nice words about his MIL will help your application.

Yeah, because Charlie's clearly at the top of his game and knows exactly what he's doing, eh?

[cgt2]

REALIST123 said:

Yeah, because Charlie's clearly at the top of his game and knows exactly what he's doing, eh?

Well it's a golden opportunity for someone to step up then!

[cgt2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ENGReaYAnQ&fe...

Paddock Pass.

Interviewing Rosberg must be like a visit to the dentist when you know it's going to be bad.

[NJK44]

rsbmw said:

Looking at the 2014 data, this wouldn't be an awful place for LH to start from the back of the grid. Expect he'd rather build up (or at least try to) a bigger championship lead first though, so he can take his penalties and still be leading the championship assuming he can finish in the top 5.

Seems like a bad idea. Have you seen how thin this track is?!

[Dr Z]

cheddar said:

Dr Z said:

Thanks, hope you have a good one, but I'm not too optimistic for the race!

Why not?

And thanks for another quality thread opener

I was coming from the angle that unless you're a Mercedes fan you're unlikely to see another team battling for the win this race. When Mercedes have the rest of the field under control they put on a well managed show..not what a neutral like me would like to see.

Early days but, Mercedes look mighty in S2 and S3 so far. However if we have a rainy qualifying as there's some weather around tomorrow we might have more potential for an interesting race if the grid is more mixed up as a result.

Interestingly McLaren looking good in S2 and not so good in S3. It will be good to see the long runs.

[BaronVonVaderham]

cgt2 said:

BaronVonVaderham said:

No, he moves around very late in the braking phase. Read the rules.

No rule was broken as the stewards did not even bother looking at it.

Perhaps you should apply for Charlie Whiting's job? Send your CV to Mr Ecclestone, c/o FOM, Prince's Gate, London SW6.

Nice words about his MIL will help your application.

Inconsistent application of the rules and subsequent penalties is an area that the FIA specialise in. Drivers are just asking for clarity and consistency.

[Dr Z]

Before the start of FP2, thought I'll post up the best sector times (in seconds) from FP1

Car	Tyre	S1	S2	S3
Mercedes	Super Soft	16.5	35.4	23.6
Ferrari	Super Soft	16.8	35.8	24
Red Bull	Super Soft	16.8	36	24
McLaren	Super Soft	16.8	35.9	24.4
Torro Rosso	Super Soft	17	36.4	24.3
Sauber	Super Soft	17.3	36.2	24.7
Manor	Super Soft	17.7	36.5	24.9
Williams	Soft	17.2	36.1	24.7
Haas	Soft	17.2	36.5	24.8
Renault	Soft	17.4	36.7	24.7
Force India	Medium	17.7	36.5	24.9

Ferrari are showing well, roughly in the ball park...normally a bit more scratching heads on a Friday. Interesting to see where the delta between the different tyres is, in ultimate performance. Williams should be in the RB/McLaren times...good performance in S2 again. Good stuff. Looking forward to the long runs.

Funny that McLaren seem to lose a lot of time in S3 compared to the Top 3 cars. Complete opposite of the MP4/29.

[rscott]

Latest rule 'clarification' - no more waved double yellows in qualifying. They'll throw a red flag instead - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125512... .

[37chevy]

rscott said:

Latest rule 'clarification' - no more waved double yellows in qualifying. They'll throw a red flag instead - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125512... .

sensible solution so that no one gains an unfair advantage....its black and white now

[NJK44]

37chevy said:

sensible solution so that no one gains an unfair advantage....its black and white now

Until Rosberg repeats his 2014 Monaco antics.

[rscott]

37chevy said:

rscott said:

Latest rule 'clarification' - no more waved double yellows in qualifying. They'll throw a red flag instead - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125512... .

sensible solution so that no one gains an unfair advantage....its black and white now

I'd prefer they simply voided the time of any lap where a driver goes past a double yellow, but presumably that would need a rule change to implement.

[37chevy]

rscott said:

I'd prefer they simply voided the time of any lap where a driver goes past a double yellow, but presumably that would need a rule change to implement.

yup I suppose that would be an option too. at least with the red flag all drivers have the same opportunity to set a time and its fair if another driver makes a mistake

[37chevy]

NJK44 said:

Until Rosberg repeats his 2014 Monaco antics.

simples...implement race rules, if you cause the red flag you get deleted from the results....make him start 10th

[Flooble]

37chevy said:

simples...implement race rules, if you cause the red flag you get deleted from the results....make him start 10th

10th?

[EnglishTony]

It's not fair. For one thing you could do a Rosberg Monaco 2014 ( as has been mentioned) and for another if you have just used your last set of fresh qualifying tyres and have the lap red flagged 'cos someone went off behind you, your rival's may have a set left or at least a set that hasn't been too used.

That's without mentioning asking what the point now is of waved yellows if it's just going to automatically = red flags.

[rubystone]

NJK44 said:

Until Rosberg repeats his 2014 Monaco antics.

Some say that Alonso's spin at Hungary was to preserve his grid positions. If a red flag is flown, it'll surely encourage that type of behaviour even more?

[suffolk009]

37chevy said:

NJK44 said:

Until Rosberg repeats his 2014 Monaco antics.

simples...implement race rules, if you cause the red flag you get deleted from the results....make him start 10th

I'm not familiar with that rule. But it makes sense.

I suspect there is also an element of Bernie/FOM hoping for more randomised grids. To, you know, improve "the show".

[rubystone]

cgt2 said:

As I said all experienced ex-racers who have commented apart from Brundle thought it was ok.

Those on the grid obviously have an interest in undermining an opponent who is threatening their reputation with far less experience than them.

Kimi has done some stupid stuff recently (irrespective of his own age and experience) so all Max needs to do is take a laptop and pull up those moments in his defence. That will be a lively (and short) argument.

We will indeed and time will tell.

Couldn't agree more. But I will counter by saying that a friend who raced against Max in F3 told me that in that formula he was fast but erratic. I recall Pau a few years ago where Max ended up in the wall several times.