The Official 2016 German Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 German Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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NJK44 said:
You're mad if you think Lewis will listen to team orders
And where did I say he would?

williamp

19,255 posts

273 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Either Lewis will get in the lead and Nico wont be able to do anything, or Nico will be in the lead, Lewis will challenge then Nico will go way, way, way off line to defend. DR to win after the Mercs crash out.

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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williamp said:
Either Lewis will get in the lead and Nico wont be able to do anything, or Nico will be in the lead, Lewis will challenge then Nico will go way, way, way off line to defend. DR to win after the Mercs crash out.
Or Max if he beats Dan off the line.. smile

Z3MCJez

531 posts

172 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
Demeanour in the press conference and Ricciardo's raised eyebrow almost suggests Mercedes have told them not to race hard tomorrow. Hope it's not a procession or it will be an afternoon nap instead.
Might explain Hamilton's mood. And the statement that its going to be a great weekend for Mercedes.

There's always the start. T1 here is a nightmare as it pinches on the inside but there has always been half the pack on the run off to the outside. Between T2 and T6 we are likely to see some contact. After that, well, it's possible to pass at T6, especially with the DRS.

Electrical glitch in Nico's car though will be a worry for him if they don't know what caused it and can't reproduce it in the garage.

Jez

thegreenhell

15,320 posts

219 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Smollet said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
Did David Croft really have to crowbar in a reference to the 50th Anniversary of the 1966 World Cup? rolleyes
They seem to be obsessed with it
Well he was a football commentator before he fell into F1, and it's the only thing England have ever won in football, so it's not really a surprise.

Smollet

10,556 posts

190 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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thegreenhell said:
Smollet said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
Did David Croft really have to crowbar in a reference to the 50th Anniversary of the 1966 World Cup? rolleyes
They seem to be obsessed with it
Well he was a football commentator before he fell into F1, and it's the only thing England have ever won in football, so it's not really a surprise.
And it was only fifty years ago as well

ClockworkCupcake

74,534 posts

272 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
Why would Mercedes be able to dictate to another team whether they can race hard or not? confused
????

The body language suggests the Merc drivers have been given some kind of instruction and Ricciardo smirked in response to the mood.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought you were saying Mercedes were instructing Red Bull not to race hard.

hora

37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Z3MCJez said:
cgt2 said:
Demeanour in the press conference and Ricciardo's raised eyebrow almost suggests Mercedes have told them not to race hard tomorrow. Hope it's not a procession or it will be an afternoon nap instead.
Might explain Hamilton's mood. And the statement that its going to be a great weekend for Mercedes.

There's always the start. T1 here is a nightmare as it pinches on the inside but there has always been half the pack on the run off to the outside. Between T2 and T6 we are likely to see some contact. After that, well, it's possible to pass at T6, especially with the DRS.

Electrical glitch in Nico's car though will be a worry for him if they don't know what caused it and can't reproduce it in the garage.

Jez
Whoever qualifies on pole gets the race I imagine they were told. Go against this and you'll get a slow pitstop.

LandR

6,249 posts

254 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Stewards are inconsistent with the unsafe release penalties.

2016 - Australian GP - Hyrianto unsafe release (he hit Grosjean) in free practice. 3 place grid penalty and 2 penalty points.
2014 - Spanish GP - Jean Eric Vergne unsafe release in FP. 10 place grid penalty.
2015 - Belgian GP - Kyvat unsafe release in FP. Reprimand
2016 - German GP - Hamilton unsafe release in FP. Team fined. No penalty for driver and no reprimand (which would have been a grid drop for 3 this season).


cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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hora said:
Whoever qualifies on pole gets the race I imagine they were told. Go against this and you'll get a slow pitstop.
I get the impression there is some kind of agreement already in place because the Merc board will be in attendance. I hope I'm wrong but when asked about the race tomorrow the way Hamilton spoke suggests this.

For all their bullst rules and keystone cops routines, can the FIA not somehow force that drivers are required to race and not just hold station?

cgt2

7,100 posts

188 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Just coming back to you Lewis: your thoughts ahead of tomorrow's grand prix? It's going to be another tough battle in prospect?

LH: It's should be a good day for Mercedes. That's the goal and yeah, we'll race it out.

Q: Lewis, obviously it's been a very strong couple of months for you. You've come right back to the point where you're now leading the championship going into tomorrow's grand prix. Just tell us a little bit about the importance for you of going into that summer break with a win under your belt. Is that something you particularly target? And how do you look back on this last few weeks?

LH: I think the importance is not particularly relevant. We've had, what, five out of six races wins, so it's been a good mid-stint of the season, and hopefully tomorrow we get the first or second and that'll still be great. We'll still be in good position. Of course, every race you approach to win.

Q: (Dan Knutson - Speedsport and Auto Action) Nico and Lewis, last weekend the start and the first couple corners set the race. How much different is it this weekend and how much easier is it to get past on this track?

NR: It's a different world here because you can overtake on this track if you get a significant speed difference. Nevertheless it's still going to be a good battle off the start and in the first couple of corners, for sure.

LH: It's a much easier track (on which) to overtake. But that doesn't mean you can but it is much easier, it's one of the easier ones.

Q: And your thoughts just on that first corner and then the run down to turn two?

LH: Only one car can go through turn one so it's whoever gets there first.

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

174 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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I would like to see Rosberg get the job done tomorrow.... another pole he really needs to convert it for once because it seems Hamilton just has huge momentum at the moment and unless Rosberg can turn it around the championship is going to turn into a victory parade after the summer break.

48Valves

1,947 posts

209 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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It does appear that the German manufacturer want a German winner at the German grand prix. Especially one that is struggling to pull in the crowds and is in danger of being removed from the race calender.

Derek Smith

45,652 posts

248 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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LandR said:
Stewards are inconsistent with the unsafe release penalties.

2016 - Australian GP - Hyrianto unsafe release (he hit Grosjean) in free practice. 3 place grid penalty and 2 penalty points.
2014 - Spanish GP - Jean Eric Vergne unsafe release in FP. 10 place grid penalty.
2015 - Belgian GP - Kyvat unsafe release in FP. Reprimand
2016 - German GP - Hamilton unsafe release in FP. Team fined. No penalty for driver and no reprimand (which would have been a grid drop for 3 this season).
The rules have changed over time and penalties have, hopefully, reflect the specific circumstances of the incident. One of my major complaints is that penalties are identical when cars a speeding regardless of circumstances. If you are doing 40 in a 30, you get the same regardless of whether it was school turn-out time or 3am.

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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cgt2 said:
I get the impression there is some kind of agreement already in place because the Merc board will be in attendance. I hope I'm wrong but when asked about the race tomorrow the way Hamilton spoke suggests this.

For all their bullst rules and keystone cops routines, can the FIA not somehow force that drivers are required to race and not just hold station?
How do you force a driver to race?

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Vaud said:
How do you force a driver to race?
Forbid team orders.

Dr Z

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3,396 posts

171 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Just saw the C4 highlights of qualifying, it was a good lap to get pole. Well deserved. Sets up a good race for tomorrow. Really good laps from both the Red Bull drivers, hope they can jump the Mercs at the start for an even better race!



Jasandjules

69,884 posts

229 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Very impressive lap from Nico there. If Lewis hadn't locked up it would be interesting to see just how close they would have been. Red Bulls have some good pace too.


jbudgie

8,912 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
I would like to see Rosberg get the job done tomorrow.... another pole he really needs to convert it for once because it seems Hamilton just has huge momentum at the moment and unless Rosberg can turn it around the championship is going to turn into a victory parade after the summer break.
I would like to see Hamilton get the job done tomorrow. smile

hora

37,119 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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48Valves said:
It does appear that the German manufacturer want a German winner at the German grand prix. Especially one that is struggling to pull in the crowds and is in danger of being removed from the race calender.
He's as German as I am