The Official 2016 German Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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k yeh! ZX10R NIN said:
Just a quick clip showing the full Hockenheim Circuit for those who've never seen it, now seeing F1 racing on this Circuit would be great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5vebOg2TE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3-xwaenqOc
It wasn't. It was just cars in a line and then tiptoeing through the stadium section. But I don't remember the circuit from pre second chicane. Changed after Depailler lost his life there, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5vebOg2TE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3-xwaenqOc
Jez
Z3MCJez said:
It wasn't. It was just cars in a line and then tiptoeing through the stadium section. But I don't remember the circuit from pre second chicane. Changed after Depailler lost his life there, I think.
Jez
Yes but with DRS & Push to Pass that these F1 Cars have there is no way there wouldn't be overtaking Jez
hora said:
48Valves said:
It does appear that the German manufacturer want a German winner at the German grand prix. Especially one that is struggling to pull in the crowds and is in danger of being removed from the race calender.
He's as German as I amYou can see from the body language of Lewis in the press conference after qualifying that something has been said along the lines of whoever gets through turn one first wins.
cgt2 said:
Just coming back to you Lewis: your thoughts ahead of tomorrow's grand prix? It's going to be another tough battle in prospect?
LH: It's should be a good day for Mercedes. That's the goal and yeah, we'll race it out.
Q: Lewis, obviously it's been a very strong couple of months for you. You've come right back to the point where you're now leading the championship going into tomorrow's grand prix. Just tell us a little bit about the importance for you of going into that summer break with a win under your belt. Is that something you particularly target? And how do you look back on this last few weeks?
LH: I think the importance is not particularly relevant. We've had, what, five out of six races wins, so it's been a good mid-stint of the season, and hopefully tomorrow we get the first or second and that'll still be great. We'll still be in good position. Of course, every race you approach to win.
Q: (Dan Knutson - Speedsport and Auto Action) Nico and Lewis, last weekend the start and the first couple corners set the race. How much different is it this weekend and how much easier is it to get past on this track?
NR: It's a different world here because you can overtake on this track if you get a significant speed difference. Nevertheless it's still going to be a good battle off the start and in the first couple of corners, for sure.
LH: It's a much easier track (on which) to overtake. But that doesn't mean you can but it is much easier, it's one of the easier ones.
Q: And your thoughts just on that first corner and then the run down to turn two?
LH: Only one car can go through turn one so it's whoever gets there first.
That sounds pretty damning to me. LH: It's should be a good day for Mercedes. That's the goal and yeah, we'll race it out.
Q: Lewis, obviously it's been a very strong couple of months for you. You've come right back to the point where you're now leading the championship going into tomorrow's grand prix. Just tell us a little bit about the importance for you of going into that summer break with a win under your belt. Is that something you particularly target? And how do you look back on this last few weeks?
LH: I think the importance is not particularly relevant. We've had, what, five out of six races wins, so it's been a good mid-stint of the season, and hopefully tomorrow we get the first or second and that'll still be great. We'll still be in good position. Of course, every race you approach to win.
Q: (Dan Knutson - Speedsport and Auto Action) Nico and Lewis, last weekend the start and the first couple corners set the race. How much different is it this weekend and how much easier is it to get past on this track?
NR: It's a different world here because you can overtake on this track if you get a significant speed difference. Nevertheless it's still going to be a good battle off the start and in the first couple of corners, for sure.
LH: It's a much easier track (on which) to overtake. But that doesn't mean you can but it is much easier, it's one of the easier ones.
Q: And your thoughts just on that first corner and then the run down to turn two?
LH: Only one car can go through turn one so it's whoever gets there first.
48Valves said:
hora said:
48Valves said:
It does appear that the German manufacturer want a German winner at the German grand prix. Especially one that is struggling to pull in the crowds and is in danger of being removed from the race calender.
He's as German as I amYou can see from the body language of Lewis in the press conference after qualifying that something has been said along the lines of whoever gets through turn one first wins.
But reading between the lines, it does sound like the German parent company want the not-really-German driver of the not-really-German F1 team to win at the German GP doesn't it.
ClockworkCupcake said:
And the Mercedes F1 team are as German as Nico is. ie. not really, but notionally.
But reading between the lines, it does sound like the German parent company want the not-really-German driver of the not-really-German F1 team to win at the German GP doesn't it.
Let's hope Lewis hasn't read the script again. But reading between the lines, it does sound like the German parent company want the not-really-German driver of the not-really-German F1 team to win at the German GP doesn't it.
ClockworkCupcake said:
And the Mercedes F1 team are as German as Nico is. ie. not really, but notionally.
But reading between the lines, it does sound like the German parent company want the not-really-German driver of the not-really-German F1 team to win at the German GP doesn't it.
When you say reading between the lines, you mean totally based on Hamilton's comments post qualifying, because he was pis*** at losing out to Rosberg?But reading between the lines, it does sound like the German parent company want the not-really-German driver of the not-really-German F1 team to win at the German GP doesn't it.
Edited by Superbad on Saturday 30th July 22:38
VolvoT5 said:
I would like to see Rosberg get the job done tomorrow.... another pole he really needs to convert it for once because it seems Hamilton just has huge momentum at the moment and unless Rosberg can turn it around the championship is going to turn into a victory parade after the summer break.
Hardly going to turn in to a 'victory parade'. Lewis would have a 13 point lead with engine penalties to come, it's going to be wide open for some time yet.LandR said:
Stewards are inconsistent with the unsafe release penalties.
2016 - Australian GP - Hyrianto unsafe release (he hit Grosjean) in free practice. 3 place grid penalty and 2 penalty points.
2014 - Spanish GP - Jean Eric Vergne unsafe release in FP. 10 place grid penalty.
2015 - Belgian GP - Kyvat unsafe release in FP. Reprimand
2016 - German GP - Hamilton unsafe release in FP. Team fined. No penalty for driver and no reprimand (which would have been a grid drop for 3 this season).
Bernie probably had a word in their ear ... wants to ensure there's a race.2016 - Australian GP - Hyrianto unsafe release (he hit Grosjean) in free practice. 3 place grid penalty and 2 penalty points.
2014 - Spanish GP - Jean Eric Vergne unsafe release in FP. 10 place grid penalty.
2015 - Belgian GP - Kyvat unsafe release in FP. Reprimand
2016 - German GP - Hamilton unsafe release in FP. Team fined. No penalty for driver and no reprimand (which would have been a grid drop for 3 this season).
That said, I don't believe that drivers should be punished for team mistakes. Points penalties for drivers or constructors depending on who made the mistake would be far more appropriate than blanked punishments.
MitchT said:
LandR said:
Stewards are inconsistent with the unsafe release penalties.
2016 - Australian GP - Hyrianto unsafe release (he hit Grosjean) in free practice. 3 place grid penalty and 2 penalty points.
2014 - Spanish GP - Jean Eric Vergne unsafe release in FP. 10 place grid penalty.
2015 - Belgian GP - Kyvat unsafe release in FP. Reprimand
2016 - German GP - Hamilton unsafe release in FP. Team fined. No penalty for driver and no reprimand (which would have been a grid drop for 3 this season).
Bernie probably had a word in their ear ... wants to ensure there's a race.2016 - Australian GP - Hyrianto unsafe release (he hit Grosjean) in free practice. 3 place grid penalty and 2 penalty points.
2014 - Spanish GP - Jean Eric Vergne unsafe release in FP. 10 place grid penalty.
2015 - Belgian GP - Kyvat unsafe release in FP. Reprimand
2016 - German GP - Hamilton unsafe release in FP. Team fined. No penalty for driver and no reprimand (which would have been a grid drop for 3 this season).
That said, I don't believe that drivers should be punished for team mistakes. Points penalties for drivers or constructors depending on who made the mistake would be far more appropriate than blanked punishments.
And I fully agree drivers should be being penilised for teams mistakes...take point off them in the constructors championship instead
ClockworkCupcake said:
That sounds pretty damning to me.
I hope I'm wrong but if they are enforcing rules like no racing after the first corner that's pathetic of Mercedes and I hope it backfires on them spectacularly. It would make all their words about allowing them to race look like outright lies.
Z3MCJez said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Yes but with DRS & Push to Pass that these F1 Cars have there is no way there wouldn't be overtaking
You should watch IndyCar on the ovals if that's what you're looking for!Jez
You do realise Indycars race at circuits more so than ovals & they overtake each other on those too.
Wasn't that happening at Baku?
They have both of those in F1 don't they?
DRS
Overtake Mode (which they can only use for so long during a race due to fuel useage & component stress) which is what I was referring to as Push to Pass
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