Re-apply for license (Race-Nat B) after a few years away?

Re-apply for license (Race-Nat B) after a few years away?

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dunc_sx

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1,608 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I got my Race Nat B in 2010 (I think) and did a season racing in 2011, I renewed the license in 2012 but since then I haven't done anything. What's the procedure on renewing? Just a paperwork exercise? Would like to put it to use again in 2016 driving

Thanks in advance for the help smile

Dunc.

Edit: Oh while I'm here is the Simpson Hybrid HRS a valid choice from a regulatory point of view? (Sports car racing)

Edited by dunc_sx on Tuesday 26th July 12:25

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I think according to the blue book, you may need to start again. In 8.2.2 it says you need to have held a Nat B lic in 2013 to apply now without the starter pack/ards test rigmarole.

However, 8.2.3 talks about having held or been entitled to hold a licence higher than Nat B gives you 5 years grace. I guess to prove it you will need results sheets showing you did enough races to get to Nat A. 6 races. It says clerk of the course sigs, but I have used results sheets to upgrade my Nat A to Int C before when I hadn't collected the sigs.

(8.2.3. *Anyone who can provide proof of having ever held, or entitled to hold, a Race licence of higher status than Restricted or National ‘B’. Competitors who have not renewed their licence for five years or more will be required to pass the ARDS written examination. )

As with all things blue book, there may be other interpretations! They are very helpful on the phone by the way if you want to phone and ask.
Bert

bigmowley

1,887 posts

176 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Easy. Covering letter detailing each race and finishing position. Results sheets are best, you can probably download them from TSL. As long as you did not get lots of endorsements and the like you will almost certainly go straight back to your old grade. I got my Int C license back after a break of 15 years smile
RAC Liscence office were very helpful.

smiles1

543 posts

222 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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[quote=BertBert]

However, 8.2.3 talks about having held or been entitled to hold a licence higher than Nat B gives you 5 years grace. I guess to prove it you will need results sheets showing you did enough races to get to Nat A. 6 races. It says clerk of the course sigs, but I have used results sheets to upgrade my Nat A to Int C before when I hadn't collected the sigs.

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I thought it was 10 races for National A (happy to be proved wrong though smile )


Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I'm looking the do the same - I last raced in 2008 so have re-sit the written part of the ARDS but I don't think you will have to - if you know your old licence number you should be able to renew online easy peasy (unless you're over 45 in which case you'll need a new medical).

dunc_sx

Original Poster:

1,608 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Thanks for the responses smile

Great news is I've found a 2014 license, I must have (optimistically) renewed it then bounce

(really can't remember anything about that)

Cheers,

Dunc.

Edit: Oh and I think it's 6 races to upgrade from Nat B to Nat A

Edited by dunc_sx on Tuesday 26th July 23:01

pete21

56 posts

203 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Simpson Hybrids are fantastic. Stopped using Hans and went Simpson. You don't need to buy different angles for different seating I.e. sports, saloons, single seaters Meaning 1 Simpson does all, and they protect not only Front or rear impact , Also Lateral side impact. I swear by mine.

dunc_sx

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1,608 posts

197 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Yeah I’ve heard similar stories elsewhere that’s why I’m getting one instead of a Hans device. Take it you’ve not had any problems with scrutineering etc using it?

Thanks,

Dunc.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I'm very happy with a HANS. The hybrid devices look quite unwieldy to put on and also if you perchance have any kind of middle-aged-man-breast problem, they are not very flattering (figuratively and literally!).
Bert

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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BertBert said:
I'm very happy with a HANS. The hybrid devices look quite unwieldy to put on and also if you perchance have any kind of middle-aged-man-breast problem, they are not very flattering (figuratively and literally!).
Bert
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dunc_sx

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1,608 posts

197 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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Points noted biggrin

dunc_sx

Original Poster:

1,608 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Wee update on this to help anyone searching in future. Phoned MSA, they said the time gap wasn't a problem and if I send in 6 race timing sheets (just taken from TSL timings website) to prove I've successfully completed 6 races I could get a Nat A as well.

Was happy with that due to the funny power to weight ratio regulation.

Received yesterday smile

sx187

32 posts

92 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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bigmowley said:
Easy. Covering letter detailing each race and finishing position. Results sheets are best, you can probably download them from TSL. As long as you did not get lots of endorsements and the like you will almost certainly go straight back to your old grade. I got my Int C license back after a break of 15 years smile
RAC Liscence office were very helpful.
As you say race result sheets are perfectly acceptable,they should have the CoCs signaturevon anyway.

BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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If you download them, they are unsigned. But it doesn't seem to matter.
Bert

sx187 said:
As you say race result sheets are perfectly acceptable,they should have the CoCs signaturevon anyway.