There are Hamilton Fanboys and there are F1 fans.

[RichB]

Wow, you got really worked up over that one. No offense meant.

[zebra]

Is it just me but this thread really does not make sense.

[Derek Smith]

I'm a fanboy, and have been for some 30-odd years I've just realised. I am a fan of McLaren. That doesn't make me somehow not an F1 fan. Following a specific driver or team in no bar to enjoying the sport.

I'm also something of a Hamilton fan, although things became a bit frosty when he left McLaren, but enough of that. His first year was thrilling, and thoroughly enjoyable. Then there are his subsequent years.

I tend to like a driver for his driving. I'm a fan of Max, as many people are. I have no idea what he is like personally and I don't really care. If the worst he does is bite the heads of chickens, then go man.

However, one aspect of LH's behaviour impressed me. His response to Mosley's 'offer' to go emperor's evidence at the Stepneygate fiasco was rather different to the other two drivers. Yet it was a risk to, in effect, stick two fingers up to the person who dominated the sport. He must have known that after the Benetton fuel rig rigging, guilt or innocence would have had little to do what might happen to him. Compared to how Alonso behaved . . .

It seems to me that there are fans of particular drivers, as there have always been, and those who get upset at this.

[jm doc]

InductionRoar said:

RichB said:

InductionRoar said:

How would he compare with Fangio, Senna or Clark? A silly argument? Maybe, but it doesn't stop the fanboys does it?

It's a discussion not an argument and one that most motor sport magazines and journalists have also had at some time. Although they are all of a different era it doesn't prevent the conversation. Personally I think Hamilton would stack up well against those other drivers as he is clearly one of the best of this generation.

Are you suggesting the fanboys are open-minded in their Facebook "discussions"?

I'm not saying he would or wouldn't - I don't feel qualified enough to make such a statement.

What I am saying is that it is a pointless barometer of anything and the fact that motorsport magazines have discussed such a ridiculous topic doesn't surprise me at all.

Do you really follow sport?? You should know that this is probably the oldest argument in any sport, be it boxing, football, horse racing, or even F1. Who is the greatest ever in each different sport?

[swisstoni]

zebra said:

Is it just me but this thread really does not make sense.

No. It never really did.

[InductionRoar]

jm doc said:

Do you really follow sport?? You should know that this is probably the oldest argument in any sport, be it boxing, football, horse racing, or even F1. Who is the greatest ever in each different sport?

Depends on your perspective I guess.

The only sport I "follow" is F1 and only then to the extent where I watch practice, qualifying and race (where possible) whilst keeping up to date with any news.

I am not fanatical about every minute detail so don't buy magazines where tyre pressures and wing adjustments are discussed ad nauseam. This, in my opinion, is where another kind of fan comes in - the armchair expert. They read some heavily diluted technical info in a mainstream publication and are suddenly the world's authority on the subject and as a result possess the requisite knowledge to argue with Ross Brawn.

The fact that these magazines (presumably in a quiet patch such as the summer or winter break) employ statisticians to compare different cars, tracks and drivers across different eras under different regulations in a bid to produce more meaningless "data" to an audience who like to keep spread sheets strikes me as odd but then again there is clearly a market for it.

So in summary, no, maybe I don't follow sport.

[Emeye]

Derek Smith said:

I'm a fanboy, and have been for some 30-odd years I've just realised. I am a fan of McLaren. That doesn't make me somehow not an F1 fan. Following a specific driver or team in no bar to enjoying the sport.

I'm also something of a Hamilton fan, although things became a bit frosty when he left McLaren, but enough of that. His first year was thrilling, and thoroughly enjoyable. Then there are his subsequent years.

I tend to like a driver for his driving. I'm a fan of Max, as many people are. I have no idea what he is like personally and I don't really care. If the worst he does is bite the heads of chickens, then go man.

However, one aspect of LH's behaviour impressed me. His response to Mosley's 'offer' to go emperor's evidence at the Stepneygate fiasco was rather different to the other two drivers. Yet it was a risk to, in effect, stick two fingers up to the person who dominated the sport. He must have known that after the Benetton fuel rig rigging, guilt or innocence would have had little to do what might happen to him. Compared to how Alonso behaved . . .

It seems to me that there are fans of particular drivers, as there have always been, and those who get upset at this.

You are not a fanboy. What you describe yourself as is a true F1 fan.

[zebra]

Emeye said:

Derek Smith said:

I'm a fanboy, and have been for some 30-odd years I've just realised. I am a fan of McLaren. That doesn't make me somehow not an F1 fan. Following a specific driver or team in no bar to enjoying the sport.

I'm also something of a Hamilton fan, although things became a bit frosty when he left McLaren, but enough of that. His first year was thrilling, and thoroughly enjoyable. Then there are his subsequent years.

I tend to like a driver for his driving. I'm a fan of Max, as many people are. I have no idea what he is like personally and I don't really care. If the worst he does is bite the heads of chickens, then go man.

However, one aspect of LH's behaviour impressed me. His response to Mosley's 'offer' to go emperor's evidence at the Stepneygate fiasco was rather different to the other two drivers. Yet it was a risk to, in effect, stick two fingers up to the person who dominated the sport. He must have known that after the Benetton fuel rig rigging, guilt or innocence would have had little to do what might happen to him. Compared to how Alonso behaved . . .

It seems to me that there are fans of particular drivers, as there have always been, and those who get upset at this.

You are not a fanboy. What you describe yourself as is a true F1 fan.

Wow, I'm sure Derek will be delighted at your endorsement.

[Hungrymc]

Emeye said:

You are not a fanboy. What you describe yourself as is a true F1 fan.

And that shows how daft the whole discussion is.

[NM62]

Emeye said:

Derek Smith said:

I'm a fanboy, and have been for some 30-odd years I've just realised. I am a fan of McLaren. That doesn't make me somehow not an F1 fan. Following a specific driver or team in no bar to enjoying the sport.

I'm also something of a Hamilton fan, although things became a bit frosty when he left McLaren, but enough of that. His first year was thrilling, and thoroughly enjoyable. Then there are his subsequent years.

I tend to like a driver for his driving. I'm a fan of Max, as many people are. I have no idea what he is like personally and I don't really care. If the worst he does is bite the heads of chickens, then go man.

However, one aspect of LH's behaviour impressed me. His response to Mosley's 'offer' to go emperor's evidence at the Stepneygate fiasco was rather different to the other two drivers. Yet it was a risk to, in effect, stick two fingers up to the person who dominated the sport. He must have known that after the Benetton fuel rig rigging, guilt or innocence would have had little to do what might happen to him. Compared to how Alonso behaved . . .

It seems to me that there are fans of particular drivers, as there have always been, and those who get upset at this.

You are not a fanboy. What you describe yourself as is a true F1 fan.

Your inference in the OP / title was that he cannot be a Hamilton Fan - it's either Hamilton Fanboy or an F1 Fan - which as somebody else pointed is out why it's daft (I did allude to this some pages back but you ignored that).

[zebra]

NM62 said:

Your inference in the OP / title was that he cannot be a Hamilton Fan - it's either Hamilton Fanboy or an F1 Fan - which as somebody else pointed is out why it's daft (I did allude to this some pages back but you ignored that).

Agreed which is why the thread is bks

[NM62]

zebra said:

NM62 said:

Your inference in the OP / title was that he cannot be a Hamilton Fan - it's either Hamilton Fanboy or an F1 Fan - which as somebody else pointed is out why it's daft (I did allude to this some pages back but you ignored that).

Agreed which is why the thread is bks

+1

[AW111]

NM62 said:

Your inference in the OP / title was that he cannot be a Hamilton Fan - it's either Hamilton Fanboy or an F1 Fan - which as somebody else pointed is out why it's daft (I did allude to this some pages back but you ignored that).

I didn't infer that from the OP.

Fanboy : someone so blinded by their admiration for the object of their worship that they cannot see any faukts ever, and assume anyone whose admiration is less slavish is a "hater".

Fan : normal person, who barracks for a particular individual or team.


Getting away from F1 for an example : I am a Geelong Cats fan (AFL football), and I hope they win every match. That doesn't stop me roundly abusing them (on the TV) for stupid mistakes and bad play.

[Emeye]

I disagree - I never said that as an F1 fan you cannot be a Hamilton fan.

I started this thread due to my frustration with the "Hamilton fans" who think Hamilton can do no wrong, and that Rosberg is the devil. They are incapable of having constructive conversations about F1 and they ruin every discussion thread that I come across.

If you are so fixated on one driver and are unable to see the whole picture, I cannot see how you are a proper F1 fan, as F1 is bigger than one driver - unfortunately it seems that there is a growing army of Hamilton "fans" that are like that - and it is definitely getting worse - are these Fanboys really good for the sport?

[zebra]

Emeye said:

I disagree - I never said that as an F1 fan you cannot be a Hamilton fan.

I started this thread due to my frustration with the "Hamilton fans" who think Hamilton can do no wrong, and that Rosberg is the devil. They are incapable of having constructive conversations about F1 and they ruin every discussion thread that I come across.

If you are so fixated on one driver and are unable to see the whole picture, I cannot see how you are a proper F1 fan, as F1 is bigger than one driver - unfortunately it seems that there is a growing army of Hamilton "fans" that are like that - and it is definitely getting worse - are these Fanboys really good for the sport?

You stared this thread because you're not a Hamilton fan.

[housen]

this is dull

Edited by housen on Wednesday 3rd August 15:26

[37chevy]

Emeye said:

I disagree - I never said that as an F1 fan you cannot be a Hamilton fan.

I started this thread due to my frustration with the "Hamilton fans" who think Hamilton can do no wrong, and that Rosberg is the devil. They are incapable of having constructive conversations about F1 and they ruin every discussion thread that I come across.

If you are so fixated on one driver and are unable to see the whole picture, I cannot see how you are a proper F1 fan, as F1 is bigger than one driver - unfortunately it seems that there is a growing army of Hamilton "fans" that are like that - and it is definitely getting worse - are these Fanboys really good for the sport?

actually I see more threads on here that are ruined by Hamilton haters that think that Hamilton can do no RIGHT!.....there have been many a thread that have just resulted in Hamilton bashing!

at the end of the day you get fanaticism in any sport whether its football, baseball or motorsport. just because you don't agree with what is said, doesn't mean its wrong. there are 2 sides to everything....and then a balanced view. the simple solution is just to smile and keep scrolling....simples!

[InductionRoar]

housen said:

this is dull

Edited by housen on Wednesday 3rd August 15:26

So dull you commented and an hour later, edited your three word post.

[housen]

InductionRoar said:

housen said:

this is dull

Edited by housen on Wednesday 3rd August 15:26

So dull you commented and an hour later, edited your three word post.

lol

exactly

my brain is dead

plus this thread is on my watch list so I dip in and out as my daily dull routine ;-) as im a huge Hamilton fan and funnily enough f1 fan

fixed income markets arnt what they used to be

[NM62]

Emeye said:

I disagree - I never said that as an F1 fan you cannot be a Hamilton fan.

I started this thread due to my frustration with the "Hamilton fans" who think Hamilton can do no wrong, and that Rosberg is the devil. They are incapable of having constructive conversations about F1 and they ruin every discussion thread that I come across.

If you are so fixated on one driver and are unable to see the whole picture, I cannot see how you are a proper F1 fan, as F1 is bigger than one driver - unfortunately it seems that there is a growing army of Hamilton "fans" that are like that - and it is definitely getting worse - are these Fanboys really good for the sport?

I never said you did - I said you INFERRED it - perhaps you need to be more specific to avoid doubt as I was not alone in making that inference - like the highlighted bit above - Fanboys or Fans.

I was an F1 fan before Hamilton came along and didn't really have a preferred driver until JB arrived on the scene and then Lewis, I will still be an F1 fan after they have both gone.