There are Hamilton Fanboys and there are F1 fans.
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hora said:
Nevermind Britney fans, there's nothing wrong with backing a number 2 driver. I used to wear Minardi caps etc. Soon Nico fanboism will be back of the grid cool..
Haha now now...let's not gloat. Piston headers have long memories and may bring this thread up at the end of the year if Lewis doesn't win....LDN said:
For anyone who doubts Lewis or wonders about his popularity, this is a good article:
https://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/t...
That was an interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Buxton writes well. Will look at more of his stuff!https://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/t...
The issue is that the fanboys spoil the debate and are scary - there is a difference between between Hamilton fans who follow F1 and Hamilton fanboys.
I'm a Button fan, but I don't blame all his technical issues and mistakes on mclaren favouring Alonso, or make extreme negative statements about Alonso - or make offensive comments about people who dare suggest that Alonso may be better than Button.
This evening all the Facebook forums are full of Hamilton fanboys saying Nico is the worst driver in the world and should be replaced is a cheat etc etc, rather than discussing the real issues around whether the penalty he had for overtaking Max is fair.
It's depressing, yet also funny at the same time as it proves my point, but not as funny as the fact that I can guarantee that the people saying I am childish for suggesting there are crazy Hamilton fanboys out there are Hamilton "fans".
Same thing with the Clarkson Top Gear "fans" I guess.
I'm a Button fan, but I don't blame all his technical issues and mistakes on mclaren favouring Alonso, or make extreme negative statements about Alonso - or make offensive comments about people who dare suggest that Alonso may be better than Button.
This evening all the Facebook forums are full of Hamilton fanboys saying Nico is the worst driver in the world and should be replaced is a cheat etc etc, rather than discussing the real issues around whether the penalty he had for overtaking Max is fair.
It's depressing, yet also funny at the same time as it proves my point, but not as funny as the fact that I can guarantee that the people saying I am childish for suggesting there are crazy Hamilton fanboys out there are Hamilton "fans".
Same thing with the Clarkson Top Gear "fans" I guess.
Emeye said:
The issue is that the fanboys spoil the debate and are scary - there is a difference between between Hamilton fans who follow F1 and Hamilton fanboys.
I'm a Button fan, but I don't blame all his technical issues and mistakes on mclaren favouring Alonso, or make extreme negative statements about Alonso - or make offensive comments about people who dare suggest that Alonso may be better than Button.
This evening all the Facebook forums are full of Hamilton fanboys saying Nico is the worst driver in the world and should be replaced is a cheat etc etc, rather than discussing the real issues around whether the penalty he had for overtaking Max is fair.
It's depressing, yet also funny at the same time as it proves my point, but not as funny as the fact that I can guarantee that the people saying I am childish for suggesting there are crazy Hamilton fanboys out there are Hamilton "fans".
Same thing with the Clarkson Top Gear "fans" I guess.
Ah but the title of the Original Post states there are Hamilton Fanboys and F1 fans - in effect saying that you were either one or the other and couldn't be an F1 fan and a fan of Hamilton, which I class myself as. I'm a Button fan, but I don't blame all his technical issues and mistakes on mclaren favouring Alonso, or make extreme negative statements about Alonso - or make offensive comments about people who dare suggest that Alonso may be better than Button.
This evening all the Facebook forums are full of Hamilton fanboys saying Nico is the worst driver in the world and should be replaced is a cheat etc etc, rather than discussing the real issues around whether the penalty he had for overtaking Max is fair.
It's depressing, yet also funny at the same time as it proves my point, but not as funny as the fact that I can guarantee that the people saying I am childish for suggesting there are crazy Hamilton fanboys out there are Hamilton "fans".
Same thing with the Clarkson Top Gear "fans" I guess.
I also believe the penalty against Nico was fair, as were the two points on his licence - that has nothing to do with being a Hamilton fan, Nico drove like a rookie.
And I also like Clarkson when he reviews cars and doesn't dick about but that's another story.
NM62 said:
LDN said:
threespires said:
Jasandjules said:
I rather like the way Lewis seems genuinely pleased at his support. I mean, ever seen an F1 Driver attempt a crowd surf?
I also have heard (though I know not how true) of stories about Lewis interacting with fans behind closed doors, and being late for things because he doesn't rush them and spends a LOT of time with the kids etc I expect it is true!
I agree. He took the time to show g/son around the AMG Motorhome yesterday.I also have heard (though I know not how true) of stories about Lewis interacting with fans behind closed doors, and being late for things because he doesn't rush them and spends a LOT of time with the kids etc I expect it is true!
I attended the Mercedes End of Season bash at Mercedes World in 2009 and Lewis over ran on every thing he did as he seemed to enjoy meeting the fans of all ages - the driving demos in the AMG's was only brought to a close because the cars needed to recover.
Made up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
threespires said:
Good to hear.
Made up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
Awesome!!!Made up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
That looks more like one of those small windscreen/wind deflector things they use
threespires said:
Good to hear.
Made up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
Shhhh don't tell the hammy haters.....I can see their piss boiling right now at the thought that Lewis might not be the anti Christ!....it's not like you get photos of other drivers going this length to please their fansMade up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
On a serious note though I don't know what more the guy needs to do to prove to everyone he's a nice guy and is the real deal in terms of driving....I suppose some haters are always gonna hate....
threespires said:
Good to hear.
Made up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
Wow! That's one lucky kid. He won't forget it. And what a race to have attended. Great stuff. Made up! - Yes he certainly was, but today even more so, Lewis won which made Dylan very happy and afterwards LH saw Dylan, gave him an ice cream and a signed tear-off!
A weekend he'll not forget.
That's a pretty tasteless comment about Schumacher and Senna.
Regarding the original post, you're not going to create a debate of any intellect on Facebook so I question why anyone would try to engage in the first place. The amount of keyboard warriors on Facebook is funny, just sit back and let the children rant in the FB comments section.
Regarding the original post, you're not going to create a debate of any intellect on Facebook so I question why anyone would try to engage in the first place. The amount of keyboard warriors on Facebook is funny, just sit back and let the children rant in the FB comments section.
37chevy said:
Shhhh don't tell the hammy haters.....I can see their piss boiling right now at the thought that Lewis might not be the anti Christ!....it's not like you get photos of other drivers going this length to please their fans
On a serious note though I don't know what more the guy needs to do to prove to everyone he's a nice guy and is the real deal in terms of driving....I suppose some haters are always gonna hate....
But you are doing the fanboy thing yourself here - assuming anyone who isn't a fan of Hamilton is a "hammy hater".On a serious note though I don't know what more the guy needs to do to prove to everyone he's a nice guy and is the real deal in terms of driving....I suppose some haters are always gonna hate....
And "haters gonna hate" makes you sound very......teenaged
AW111 said:
But you are doing the fanboy thing yourself here - assuming anyone who isn't a fan of Hamilton is a "hammy hater".
And "haters gonna hate" makes you sound very......teenaged
The thing is, he does polarise people, there are very few people who shrug and say their undecided/indifferent. He's probably the most loathed driver since schumacher, but he was pretty easy to dislike - he tried to be as ruthless on track as senna, as politically exploitative as prost, and as moral as an italian politician. And "haters gonna hate" makes you sound very......teenaged
Yet what has Hamilton done? Few of his detractors can explain why beyond some cop-out and not really justifiable smug/arrogant allegations or something as idiotic and irrelevant as his fashion shoots. Probably the most single stand out thing was glock '08 and without blanket excusing it, that was much a mclaren team that were being so persecuted by the fia/ spanky max they were scared of their own shadow and you don't make the best decisions in those circumstance.
On the face of it he should be what most F1 fans want, the perfect pin-up - a phenomenally skilled driver who does his talking on-track, exciting, great ambassador for the sport. Why would you not at least respect what he brings to a race, or as F1 fans enjoy british sucess? Especially the British, the country that repeatedly suddenly all become tennis/football/curling/whatever fans/experts the second one of ours looks like they might have a shoe-in.
After a lot of thought a discussion the other day probably struck it- British class system. Snobbery. He's a council estate scrubber thats done good. Real f
king good. And people always wanna knock them back down; proles who feel betrayed/shown up/jealous, the profession/middle classes who feel "leapfrogged" by this pretentious boy who should know his place. I guess it comes down to whether you're a "good for you, well done lad" type of chap or a bit of an unsatisfied envious jerk. Am I right? Please tell me I'm wrong. Tell me why though, tell me something tangible as to why people actively take exception to him.And for fanboys? Well i stopped frequenting forums/media that tended to be fanboy dominated (so thats most f1-orientated sites) in about 08-09, the fanboyism then was mostly schumacher then alonso and always ferrari... hamilton was still a bit "awkward", I daresay since he's found himself and became super successful that hes acquired legions of fanboy followers in such places now. Other successful sports stars get the same. The most successful always do, be it man U, Rossi, Tyson etc etc. you just have to see past it.
AW111 said:
I won't quote the entire post, but :
I am not a Hamilton fan.
Do I think he's a very good driver? Yes.
Do I hate him or wish him ill? No.
Just not a fan.
Not everything in life is binary.
My point was in response, but not aimed at you; it shouldn't be binary but it seems too often that it is.I am not a Hamilton fan.
Do I think he's a very good driver? Yes.
Do I hate him or wish him ill? No.
Just not a fan.
Not everything in life is binary.
For me, Lewis is a talented driver with an exciting style. He also has a happy and humorous demeanour but can be impacted as all competitive beings can be when things do not go well. Formula one needs these characters as much as they need a cool guy like a Kimi, who people adore because he drives (maybe used to in some opinions) well, and did not conform to the extreme playboy or corporate model.
Thankfully, there are a host of drivers and team members who seem to be a little less corporate today. Toto, Niki etc all add to the mix and can be appreciated by some, if not exactly to their personal taste.
The thing that sticks with me in terms of Lewis is that he is enjoying his life in line with his resources and desires, but still doing what matters in his job - doing his best. Work hard, play hard is not a bad approach to life. He never forgets his team or his fans in his success, and doesn't seem to afraid to hold his hands up when he screws up. But the key thing is, as shown by the young lad pictured in this thread and many other examples is he actually seems to enjoy interacting with his fans, especially showing positivity to impressionable young kids.
All in all, I would say that F1, in today's constant rumblings of cars too quiet, circuits too boring, regs too confusing, processional races etc needs someone to give the sport a lift. And Lewis, like Seb, Jenson, Fred and others can do this on their day. I would say that his family should be proud of him for his sporting achievements and human nature. A good egg, and like many others, good for the sport.
Thankfully, there are a host of drivers and team members who seem to be a little less corporate today. Toto, Niki etc all add to the mix and can be appreciated by some, if not exactly to their personal taste.
The thing that sticks with me in terms of Lewis is that he is enjoying his life in line with his resources and desires, but still doing what matters in his job - doing his best. Work hard, play hard is not a bad approach to life. He never forgets his team or his fans in his success, and doesn't seem to afraid to hold his hands up when he screws up. But the key thing is, as shown by the young lad pictured in this thread and many other examples is he actually seems to enjoy interacting with his fans, especially showing positivity to impressionable young kids.
All in all, I would say that F1, in today's constant rumblings of cars too quiet, circuits too boring, regs too confusing, processional races etc needs someone to give the sport a lift. And Lewis, like Seb, Jenson, Fred and others can do this on their day. I would say that his family should be proud of him for his sporting achievements and human nature. A good egg, and like many others, good for the sport.
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