The Official 2016 Belgian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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rsbmw said:
5th place car isn't bad for Mclaren at a fast circuit like Spa
I don't think Mercedes expect to need engine upgrades to win drivers and constructors titles this year.
In the race won't McLaren be much slower due to the need to save fuel? Alonso sometimes turns everything to 11 in races seeminlgy for entertainment, but I was under the impression they couldn't harvest as much energy form the MGU-H, which let them down on long straights during race distance and was their biggest problem.I don't think Mercedes expect to need engine upgrades to win drivers and constructors titles this year.
Hamilton has seemed very chilled in interviews. He has won at Spa three times (officially only twice) and clearly it's a circuit he has very strong performance at, were he at the front I suspect Quali would show a decent gap to Rosberg.
There are certain drivers that always appear a cut above the rest at Spa, all it needs is a safety car or some incidents and it is game on.
There are certain drivers that always appear a cut above the rest at Spa, all it needs is a safety car or some incidents and it is game on.
cgt2 said:
Hamilton has seemed very chilled in interviews. He has won at Spa three times (officially only twice) and clearly it's a circuit he has very strong performance at, were he at the front I suspect Quali would show a decent gap to Rosberg.
There are certain drivers that always appear a cut above the rest at Spa, all it needs is a safety car or some incidents and it is game on.
Certain cars as well, hey cgt2...... There are certain drivers that always appear a cut above the rest at Spa, all it needs is a safety car or some incidents and it is game on.
Derek Smith said:
So LH won't have to set his car up for qualifying.
Spa is, I think I read, one of the more difficult tracks to set a car up for. Qualifying needs low downforce in the first sector (through Eau Rouge!) but in the race higher downforce can be handy.
So does starting at the back, or possibly the pitlane, mean that he is able to set the car up for better performance, ie easier to overtaking?
I know I might be talking rubbish. Just a thought.
I don't think there is such a thing as a qualifying setup any more because of the parc ferme rules - what they qualify with is what they race with, so the setups are somewhere in between. Granted, you can still make the decision between low/high downforce though.Spa is, I think I read, one of the more difficult tracks to set a car up for. Qualifying needs low downforce in the first sector (through Eau Rouge!) but in the race higher downforce can be handy.
So does starting at the back, or possibly the pitlane, mean that he is able to set the car up for better performance, ie easier to overtaking?
I know I might be talking rubbish. Just a thought.
Flooble said:
I suspect Hamilton (with 30 places to serve) will be behind Ericsson (10 places to serve). Granted a pole for Hamilton would put him "31st" and Ericsson could qualify in 22nd place and thus end up in "32nd"? Unless Hamilton takes more changes, I guess Alonso is plum last though.
All depends on the order in which the teams report the issue to the stewardsglazbagun said:
In the race won't McLaren be much slower due to the need to save fuel? Alonso sometimes turns everything to 11 in races seeminlgy for entertainment, but I was under the impression they couldn't harvest as much energy form the MGU-H, which let them down on long straights during race distance and was their biggest problem.
The new fuel and combustion update will hopefully help with the fuel saving issues somewhat.So, how do we knowledgeable F1 geeks attempt to xplain to the casual fan why the world's best racing driver In the world's fastest racing car will do just a single timed lap tomorrow in order to start Sunday's race from the back of the grid on the world's finest racetrack?
Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
Bradgate said:
So, how do we knowledgeable F1 geeks attempt to xplain to the casual fan why the world's best racing driver In the world's fastest racing car will do just a single timed lap tomorrow in order to start Sunday's race from the back of the grid on the world's finest racetrack?
Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
Is it really that difficult? Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
Bradgate said:
So, how do we knowledgeable F1 geeks attempt to xplain to the casual fan why the world's best racing driver In the world's fastest racing car will do just a single timed lap tomorrow in order to start Sunday's race from the back of the grid on the world's finest racetrack?
Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
It's not racing anymore it's showtime Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
London424 said:
Is it really that difficult?
He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
My point is that casual fans, who have been deserting F1 en masse, don't care about any of that. They just want to see Lewis fight for pole, then fight for the win. He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
Bradgate said:
So, how do we knowledgeable F1 geeks attempt to xplain to the casual fan why the world's best racing driver In the world's fastest racing car will do just a single timed lap tomorrow in order to start Sunday's race from the back of the grid on the world's finest racetrack?
Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
Nicely put indeed. Answers on a postcard to B Ecclestone....
A farce, but that's what the rules state.
London424 said:
Is it really that difficult?
He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
Aha but he's only used three engines He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
Now you have to explain what an MGU-H is to aforementioned casual observers
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Hamilton has gone to five ICE units so you can say he has had a whole new engine.
Hamilton has gone to five ICE units so you can say he has had a whole new engine.
HustleRussell said:
London424 said:
Is it really that difficult?
He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
Aha but he's only used three engines He's used more engine components than the rules allow. Therefore he is starting at the back. As he is starting at the back there's no point in using lots of tyres during qualifying.
Now you have to explain what an MGU-H is to aforementioned casual observers
Do you have to explain the offside rule to casual fans? "Ah yes he was past the last defender but he wasn't interfering with play"
Or what about LBW in cricket?
Or why penalties get awarded in scrums in rugby?
Casual viewers are just that. All you need to do is say someone broke the rules therefore starting at the back.
London424 said:
Why?
Do you have to explain the offside rule to casual fans? "Ah yes he was past the last defender but he wasn't interfering with play"
Or what about LBW in cricket?
Or why penalties get awarded in scrums in rugby?
Casual viewers are just that. All you need to do is say someone broke the rules therefore starting at the back.
Offside, LBW or Rugby penalties are given for infringements by the players themselves during the course of the match, not for technical misdemeanours by the coaching staff before the game started.Do you have to explain the offside rule to casual fans? "Ah yes he was past the last defender but he wasn't interfering with play"
Or what about LBW in cricket?
Or why penalties get awarded in scrums in rugby?
Casual viewers are just that. All you need to do is say someone broke the rules therefore starting at the back.
Most people who watch F1 do so to see the world's beat drivers race flat-out wheel-to -wheel, yet that so rarely happens because the rules on aero, tyres, fuel-saving, grid penalties etc often appear specifically designed to prevent it.
Bradgate said:
London424 said:
Why?
Do you have to explain the offside rule to casual fans? "Ah yes he was past the last defender but he wasn't interfering with play"
Or what about LBW in cricket?
Or why penalties get awarded in scrums in rugby?
Casual viewers are just that. All you need to do is say someone broke the rules therefore starting at the back.
Offside, LBW or Rugby penalties are given for infringements by the players themselves during the course of the match, not for technical misdemeanours by the coaching staff before the game started.Do you have to explain the offside rule to casual fans? "Ah yes he was past the last defender but he wasn't interfering with play"
Or what about LBW in cricket?
Or why penalties get awarded in scrums in rugby?
Casual viewers are just that. All you need to do is say someone broke the rules therefore starting at the back.
Most people who watch F1 do so to see the world's beat drivers race flat-out wheel-to -wheel, yet that so rarely happens because the rules on aero, tyres, fuel-saving, grid penalties etc often appear specifically designed to prevent it.
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