Difficult going into gear 206
Discussion
Hi
I own Peugeot 206 hdi 2.0 it has covered 111k miles and it seems to be difficult going into 1st gear or reverse,1st feels like I'm pushing against the turning gears of the gearbox and reverse crunches and I don't want to push any further, I can select both these gears fine when the engine is off sometimes this is the only way
all other gears are fine,
even if I select first when coming from second like when crawling in traffic when the car is moving it slips in easily
Other times both gears seem fine and I can select them , it's very intermittent
I have changed the gearbox oil with what Peugeot recommend and bought it from dealers but this hasn't helped
Any ideas ?
I've bought a new clutch kit ready to fit as recommended by a local garage (was passing today) but as the car cost just £500 I don't want to pay the labour £200 to fit the clutch only to discover I still have the problem.
What do you think people?
I own Peugeot 206 hdi 2.0 it has covered 111k miles and it seems to be difficult going into 1st gear or reverse,1st feels like I'm pushing against the turning gears of the gearbox and reverse crunches and I don't want to push any further, I can select both these gears fine when the engine is off sometimes this is the only way
all other gears are fine,
even if I select first when coming from second like when crawling in traffic when the car is moving it slips in easily
Other times both gears seem fine and I can select them , it's very intermittent
I have changed the gearbox oil with what Peugeot recommend and bought it from dealers but this hasn't helped
Any ideas ?
I've bought a new clutch kit ready to fit as recommended by a local garage (was passing today) but as the car cost just £500 I don't want to pay the labour £200 to fit the clutch only to discover I still have the problem.
What do you think people?
Hmm this is what I thought but the garage said it wouldn't affect other gears as your already on the move,
I think he said that the clutch has probably gone week?
But why does it go in her fine with engine off surly that points to a clutch not operating correctly
I think he said that the clutch has probably gone week?
But why does it go in her fine with engine off surly that points to a clutch not operating correctly
Edited by chriz1 on Tuesday 23 August 21:32
I don't see how bad gear linkages could cause grinding when selecting gears with the clutch fully disengaged so I'm going to disagree with Hammers67 and say that it sounds like classic clutch drag to me.
ETA: no concentric slave cylinder in the 206 so I've removed that part from my post.
ETA: no concentric slave cylinder in the 206 so I've removed that part from my post.
Edited by HustleRussell on Wednesday 24th August 09:41
If the clutch is functioning properly then the first motion shaft will not be turning when the clutch is disengaged. If the first motion shaft isn't turning there cannot be any grinding of gears and the gearbox should behave exactly the same when stationary with the clutch depressed whether the engine is running or not.
If the linkage was bad enough to not enable gear selection it'd
a) be noticeable at the gear lever
b) be equally impossible to select gears with the engine off or once on the move.
If the linkage was bad enough to not enable gear selection it'd
a) be noticeable at the gear lever
b) be equally impossible to select gears with the engine off or once on the move.
It will be the clutch. Over time the drive straps on the clutch cover wear and this means the cover does not fully release the drive plate when the pedal is pressed. As HustleRussell has said above, the gearbox is still turning and because there is no sychromesh on reverse and hardly any on first, these are the gears most affected.
X jagmcnick said:
Hello I have been reading about stiff gears on Peugeot 206 and as I have had one from 2011 and still have mine is perfect a 2003 and as I was a mechanic for B L M C 1970 on I did jaguars as well .but in July this year I changed the gear box oil on my Peugeot 206 1.4 petrol and used the oil recommend by Peugeot then found out I could not get third gear with out s hard push but no grinding .so after reading all the forums on here I thought .oil too thick 75w/80w is right .as all other gears were ok .so yesterday I took out the filler bug and did what I never thought I would ever do .I took a full tin of wd4o and put the full tin in the box .then took the car on a long run and it's now smooth and better than it was I am not saying this is right or telling you to do it but now I am retired from the job I have learned something new here and today I took the car out from cold and smooth gears all of them if you do try it I hope you find yours as smooth as mine regards to all who posted
Where does this topic mention add WD40 to fix gear selection problems?You may be needing a new gearbox shortly
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33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve arthritis pain.
37. Florida's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills and bumpers..'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York , WD-40 protects the Statue of Liberty from the elements.
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40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and stops the itch.
41. WD-40 is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray on the mark and wipe with a clean rag.
42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage daughter has washed and dried a tube of lipstick with a load of laundry, saturate the lipstick spots with WD-40 and rewash. Presto! The lipstick is gone!
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1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
2. Removes road tar and grime from cars..
3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings..
4. Gives floors that 'just-waxed' sheen without making them slippery.
5. Keeps flies off cows.
6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
7. Removes lipstick stains.
8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
9. Untangles jewelry chains.
10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.
11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
12. Keeps ceramic/terra cotta garden pots from oxidizing.
13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on vehicles and doors in homes.
18. It removes black scuff marks from the kitchen floor! Use WD-40 for those nasty tar and scuff Marks on flooring.. It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as hard to get them off. Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
19. Bug guts will eat away the finish on your car if not removed quickly! Use WD-40!
20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
21. Lubricates gear shift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on riding mowers.
22. Rids kids rocking chairs and swings of squeaky noises.
23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to open.
24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well as vinyl bumpers.
26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
27. Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans
28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for easy handling.
29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running smoothly.
30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
31. Removes splattered grease on stove.
32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve arthritis pain.
37. Florida's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills and bumpers..'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York , WD-40 protects the Statue of Liberty from the elements.
39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you will be catching the big one in no time. Also, it's a lot cheaper than the chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose. Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for fishing are not allowed in some locations.
40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and stops the itch.
41. WD-40 is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray on the mark and wipe with a clean rag.
42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage daughter has washed and dried a tube of lipstick with a load of laundry, saturate the lipstick spots with WD-40 and rewash. Presto! The lipstick is gone!
43. If you sprayed WD-40 on the distributor cap, it would displace the moisture and allow the car to start.
44. Gear oil substitute for Peugeot 206 transmissions.
P. S. The basic ingredient is FISH OIL
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