The Official 2016 Malaysian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Lewis Hamilton engine issue
Mercedes has discovered the cause of Lewis Hamilton's Formula 1 engine failure during the Malaysian Grand Prix.
The reigning world champion was leading the Sepang F1 race when his engine let go 15 laps from the end in what was his third power unit failure of the year.
Following investigations, Mercedes has determined a big-end bearing failure in the crankshaft as the root cause of the engine problem, which it says happened without warning after 618km, and was preceded by a loss of oil pressure in Turn 15.
Hamilton will revert to the engine he used in Singapore for the Japanese GP this weekend, while Rosberg will continue with the power unit he ran in Malaysia.
As a precaution, Mercedes is introducing revised running parameters for the works team, as well as customers Williams, Force India and Manor.
Those parameters will include, but are not limited to, a different and more conservative oil specification.
All Mercedes customer drivers excluding Manor's Esteban Ocon were set to take new engines this weekend as part of their planned cycle.
However, those changes have been delayed until Mercedes has conducted further analysis from stripping Hamilton's failed unit.
Those five customer team drivers will continue to use their units from the Malaysian Grand Prix.
Mercedes has discovered the cause of Lewis Hamilton's Formula 1 engine failure during the Malaysian Grand Prix.
The reigning world champion was leading the Sepang F1 race when his engine let go 15 laps from the end in what was his third power unit failure of the year.
Following investigations, Mercedes has determined a big-end bearing failure in the crankshaft as the root cause of the engine problem, which it says happened without warning after 618km, and was preceded by a loss of oil pressure in Turn 15.
Hamilton will revert to the engine he used in Singapore for the Japanese GP this weekend, while Rosberg will continue with the power unit he ran in Malaysia.
As a precaution, Mercedes is introducing revised running parameters for the works team, as well as customers Williams, Force India and Manor.
Those parameters will include, but are not limited to, a different and more conservative oil specification.
All Mercedes customer drivers excluding Manor's Esteban Ocon were set to take new engines this weekend as part of their planned cycle.
However, those changes have been delayed until Mercedes has conducted further analysis from stripping Hamilton's failed unit.
Those five customer team drivers will continue to use their units from the Malaysian Grand Prix.
I'm assuming the root cause was excessive oil consumption ?
Surely, surely the team monitor oil levels from the pits ?
It is possible that they are using the description "big end failure" in the same way that I recall a team in the 80s referring to something like an "electrical failure" - albeit one caused because a piston had gone through the loom.
Quite possibly still roots to a butter-fingered mechanic who mucked up Rosberg's car at a few races in the last couple of seasons and is now on Hamilton's side of the garage - anyone else ever not quite put their oil filter on tight enough?
Quite possibly still roots to a butter-fingered mechanic who mucked up Rosberg's car at a few races in the last couple of seasons and is now on Hamilton's side of the garage - anyone else ever not quite put their oil filter on tight enough?
Flooble said:
It is possible that they are using the description "big end failure" in the same way that I recall a team in the 80s referring to something like an "electrical failure" - albeit one caused because a piston had gone through the loom.
Quite possibly still roots to a butter-fingered mechanic who mucked up Rosberg's car at a few races in the last couple of seasons and is now on Hamilton's side of the garage - anyone else ever not quite put their oil filter on tight enough?
Might be a good shout, the engineer on Nico's team radio after the failure told him "possible oil on track", they seemed to think at the time it had dumped its oil.Quite possibly still roots to a butter-fingered mechanic who mucked up Rosberg's car at a few races in the last couple of seasons and is now on Hamilton's side of the garage - anyone else ever not quite put their oil filter on tight enough?
rsbmw said:
Flooble said:
It is possible that they are using the description "big end failure" in the same way that I recall a team in the 80s referring to something like an "electrical failure" - albeit one caused because a piston had gone through the loom.
Quite possibly still roots to a butter-fingered mechanic who mucked up Rosberg's car at a few races in the last couple of seasons and is now on Hamilton's side of the garage - anyone else ever not quite put their oil filter on tight enough?
Might be a good shout, the engineer on Nico's team radio after the failure told him "possible oil on track", they seemed to think at the time it had dumped its oil.Quite possibly still roots to a butter-fingered mechanic who mucked up Rosberg's car at a few races in the last couple of seasons and is now on Hamilton's side of the garage - anyone else ever not quite put their oil filter on tight enough?
Still can't rule out God yet though. It's the God who only exists to 'bless' rappers, footballers and celebrities though...so not your average God who is dealing with unimportant stuff like famine and destruction....
Given that Mercedes is issuing a bulletin to all teams, including "a revised and more conservative oil specification", it doesn't sound like a butter-fingered mechanic to me!
Lighter oil = less pumping & friction losses, so maybe they went a shade too thin for a race in hot conitions?
Lighter oil = less pumping & friction losses, so maybe they went a shade too thin for a race in hot conitions?
tommunster10 said:
You'd be mad not say that if you saw the amount of smoke out the back of it though, doubt it meant that he knew what had happened because they did it.
Still can't rule out God yet though. It's the God who only exists to 'bless' rappers, footballers and celebrities though...so not your average God who is dealing with unimportant stuff like famine and destruction....
If you don't mind me saying, you have a comprehension problem. At no point have I said they knew what happened "because they did it", but they might have known what happened because they knew what happened, you know from the data and stuff they have.Still can't rule out God yet though. It's the God who only exists to 'bless' rappers, footballers and celebrities though...so not your average God who is dealing with unimportant stuff like famine and destruction....
rsbmw said:
tommunster10 said:
You'd be mad not say that if you saw the amount of smoke out the back of it though, doubt it meant that he knew what had happened because they did it.
Still can't rule out God yet though. It's the God who only exists to 'bless' rappers, footballers and celebrities though...so not your average God who is dealing with unimportant stuff like famine and destruction....
If you don't mind me saying, you have a comprehension problem. At no point have I said they knew what happened "because they did it", but they might have known what happened because they knew what happened, you know from the data and stuff they have.Still can't rule out God yet though. It's the God who only exists to 'bless' rappers, footballers and celebrities though...so not your average God who is dealing with unimportant stuff like famine and destruction....
You agreed it was a good shout to say it was a buttered fingered mechanic previously on Nico's side as Nico's engineer suggested oil on the track, as in he was aware of this particular mechanic and his fat fingers causing issues which could involve spreading oil over the track..... hmmm this is pointing more and more to this guy again...
HustleRussell said:
If they did get the oil wrong, that is somewhat embarrassing for the PETRONAS AMG Mercedes team at the 2016 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX, in Malaysia- home of PETRONAS, 100 miles away from the imposing PETRONAS towers...
And to think despite all of that, they did it all on purpose to spite Lewis and make sure that a guy from Monaco wins the WDC......... amazing really, you couldn't make it up...
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