Lewis Hamilton
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jonnyb said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
sparta6 said:
LDN said:
Schuey was something else ... there's no denying. That's why it's a shame that he tainted his legacy with some s
tty / horrid tactics. There's also no denying that either. Doesn't take away from what a genius driver he was.
This is correct. MSC was in a class of 1 throughout his career. I'm just grateful that he was occasionally given a decent battle from Mika and Fernando.tty / horrid tactics. There's also no denying that either. Doesn't take away from what a genius driver he was.Would have been pretty dull otherwise.
RichB said:
jonnyb said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
sparta6 said:
LDN said:
Schuey was something else ... there's no denying. That's why it's a shame that he tainted his legacy with some stty / horrid tactics. There's also no denying that either. Doesn't take away from what a genius driver he was.
This is correct. MSC was in a class of 1 throughout his career. I'm just grateful that he was occasionally given a decent battle from Mika and Fernando.tty / horrid tactics. There's also no denying that either. Doesn't take away from what a genius driver he was.Would have been pretty dull otherwise.
It says a lot that for Alonso and Hakkinen to beat him in a straight fight has resulted in 2 of the greatest overtaking manoeuvres ever.
Vaud said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Briatore
His former Team Principal then, not manager. And he has banned for the Piquet incident, nothing to do with Schumacher at the time.Don`t think that Schuey carrying a concrete helmet to the driver scales was a new idea. Mr Ecclestone said that Brabham won its championships by being the best at circumventing the rules. Also Ken Tyrrell had his team disqualified for the whole season following the disposable ballast scam. There is no gentlemanly conduct where millions of dollars are at stake.
KevinCamaroSS said:
Vaud said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
Briatore
His former Team Principal then, not manager. And he has banned for the Piquet incident, nothing to do with Schumacher at the time.And can also be applied to many other teams at many other times.
sparta6 said:
LDN said:
Schuey was something else ... there's no denying. That's why it's a shame that he tainted his legacy with some stty / horrid tactics. There's also no denying that either. Doesn't take away from what a genius driver he was.
This is correct. MSC was in a class of 1 throughout his career.tty / horrid tactics. There's also no denying that either. Doesn't take away from what a genius driver he was.I'm just grateful that he was occasionally given a decent battle from Mika and Fernando.
Would have been pretty dull otherwise.
The Ferrari was a bit of a donkey.
simonpeter said:
Don`t think that Schuey carrying a concrete helmet to the driver scales was a new idea. Mr Ecclestone said that Brabham won its championships by being the best at circumventing the rules. Also Ken Tyrrell had his team disqualified for the whole season following the disposable ballast scam. There is no gentlemanly conduct where millions of dollars are at stake.
Tyrrell's DQ was pure politics used to remove the only N/A team from vetoing the rules the Turbo teams wanted implemented.Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.
First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.
His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.
So I say let Lewis be Lewis.
First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.
His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.
So I say let Lewis be Lewis.
Mellow Yellow said:
I suspect that had Senna not been tragically lost and Jaques Villenueve not moved to an un-competitive car, both would've taken a title or two more from MSC in his early years.
Senna yes, JV not a chance. JV only just beat MS in a vastly better car, once Ferrari were on song JV would have been nowhere vs MS no matter what car he was driving including the other Ferrari.
cb1965 said:
Mellow Yellow said:
I suspect that had Senna not been tragically lost and Jaques Villenueve not moved to an un-competitive car, both would've taken a title or two more from MSC in his early years.
Senna yes, JV not a chance. JV only just beat MS in a vastly better car, once Ferrari were on song JV would have been nowhere vs MS no matter what car he was driving including the other Ferrari.
Vaud said:
Quite. JV (aka "rent a mouth" these days according to one commentator) was a journeyman. In my mind he was much like Hill. Good driver. Solid. Right place, right time to secure a deserved WDC, but no more.
I actually think Damon Hill was a better driver than many gave him credit for and he did have some epic races against MS, but over a season there was only ever going to be one winner if MS had anything close to reasonable machinery under him. What I liked about MS was he was the perfect F1 driver - talented, super fit and super committed - the three traits that combined made him so much better than the rest. In my opinion Lewis has the same talent and the same fitness, but he doesn't eat, sleep and breath F1 like MS did... probably a good job as otherwise he'd win even more often. I do think he is an immense talent though and whether you like his off track persona or not you can't hep but marvel at his skill behind the wheel.
cb1965 said:
Vaud said:
Quite. JV (aka "rent a mouth" these days according to one commentator) was a journeyman. In my mind he was much like Hill. Good driver. Solid. Right place, right time to secure a deserved WDC, but no more.
I actually think Damon Hill was a better driver than many gave him credit for and he did have some epic races against MS, but over a season there was only ever going to be one winner if MS had anything close to reasonable machinery under him. What I liked about MS was he was the perfect F1 driver - talented, super fit and super committed - the three traits that combined made him so much better than the rest. In my opinion Lewis has the same talent and the same fitness, but he doesn't eat, sleep and breath F1 like MS did... probably a good job as otherwise he'd win even more often. I do think he is an immense talent though and whether you like his off track persona or not you can't hep but marvel at his skill behind the wheel.
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