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anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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AutoMate said:
Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.

First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.

His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.

So I say let Lewis be Lewis.

Regarding your last paragraph, are you aware of last year's UK viewing figures? Significantly down on last year and lowest since 2006. Globally down by 1/3 since 2008.

Some effect Lewis is having............

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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REALIST123 said:
AutoMate said:
Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.

First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.

His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.

So I say let Lewis be Lewis.

Regarding your last paragraph, are you aware of last year's UK viewing figures? Significantly down on last year and lowest since 2006. Globally down by 1/3 since 2008.

Some effect Lewis is having............
yes, its all Lewis's fault entirely rolleyes

swisstoni

17,053 posts

280 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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REALIST123 said:
AutoMate said:
Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.

First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.

His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.

So I say let Lewis be Lewis.

Regarding your last paragraph, are you aware of last year's UK viewing figures? Significantly down on last year and lowest since 2006. Globally down by 1/3 since 2008.

Some effect Lewis is having............
Taking F1 away from the terrestrial TV coverage it used to enjoy on to Pay Per View channels with comparatively tiny viewing figures will kill viewing figures.

stemll

4,112 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
REALIST123 said:
AutoMate said:
Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.

First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.

His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.

So I say let Lewis be Lewis.

Regarding your last paragraph, are you aware of last year's UK viewing figures? Significantly down on last year and lowest since 2006. Globally down by 1/3 since 2008.

Some effect Lewis is having............
yes, its all Lewis's fault entirely rolleyes
I think you'll find that the point was counter to Automate's statement "he is helping the sport grow". Given that the sport does not have a growing audience then it is disingenuous to claim that Lewis is growing it. I have no problem with Lewis being Lewis, he's perfectly entitled to live how he wants but he is neither the saviour nor the third horseman that some would make him out to be.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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stemll said:
SystemParanoia said:
REALIST123 said:
AutoMate said:
Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.

First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.

His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.

So I say let Lewis be Lewis.

Regarding your last paragraph, are you aware of last year's UK viewing figures? Significantly down on last year and lowest since 2006. Globally down by 1/3 since 2008.

Some effect Lewis is having............
yes, its all Lewis's fault entirely rolleyes
I think you'll find that the point was counter to Automate's statement "he is helping the sport grow". Given that the sport does not have a growing audience then it is disingenuous to claim that Lewis is growing it. I have no problem with Lewis being Lewis, he's perfectly entitled to live how he wants but he is neither the saviour nor the third horseman that some would make him out to be.
It depends on how you measure growth.

Number of races per year, bums in seats at tracks, people paying for pay-tv rights might give a different answer.

LDN

8,912 posts

204 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Taking F1 off of terrestrial TV is the reason for falling figures... the point here being that Hamilton has brought in many new fans - in other words, the figures might be EVEN worse had it not been for Hamilton. Bernie said it himself... that he wished all the drivers were as media savvy and had as high profile personas', for F1 sake.

In any case, F1 should / and looks like it might / stay reviewing the future and how to make the show better for the fans. It does seem that we are at the beginning of a new era with regard ideas being openly shared and considered by the powers that be.

housen

2,366 posts

193 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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stemll said:
SystemParanoia said:
REALIST123 said:
AutoMate said:
Here's how I see it. Lewis Hamilton's job consists of two things.

First and foremost he is a racing driver. It's what he does ON the track that matters above all else. Formula One should be a sport that puts the best racing drivers in the world against one another to see who is best behind the wheel, whether a driver pays attention during a press conference or not should not come into the equation at all.

His secondary role is as a celebrity. By drawing media attention and getting people interested in F1, he is helping the sport grow. There is no doubt that Lewis Hamilton's celebrity status OFF the track has massively helped the popularity of F1, and it's this type of controversial behaviour that draws people in. It may be seen as disrespectful or uncouth by some, but it appeals to the next generation of F1 fans and keeps the sport alive.

So I say let Lewis be Lewis.

Regarding your last paragraph, are you aware of last year's UK viewing figures? Significantly down on last year and lowest since 2006. Globally down by 1/3 since 2008.

Some effect Lewis is having............
yes, its all Lewis's fault entirely rolleyes
I think you'll find that the point was counter to Automate's statement "he is helping the sport grow". Given that the sport does not have a growing audience then it is disingenuous to claim that Lewis is growing it. I have no problem with Lewis being Lewis, he's perfectly entitled to live how he wants but he is neither the saviour nor the third horseman that some would make him out to be.
yeah rosberg was soo much better at bringing in fans lol

hamilton is king and i can't wait for next week to watch him punish the field once again


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/16/merc...

Emotional beast is one way of describing it.

FW18

243 posts

142 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Thing is though with Danny Ric, Sainz, Alonso Vettel all having deals that make them free agents at the end of the year, I don't think that Lewis can play too many games this year.

heebeegeetee

28,782 posts

249 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/16/merc...

Emotional beast is one way of describing it.
Good article imo, agree throughout with Hill.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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FW18 said:
Thing is though with Danny Ric, Sainz, Alonso Vettel all having deals that make them free agents at the end of the year, I don't think that Lewis can play too many games this year.
So you're saying that there are potential seats at Merc, Ferrari and Redbull available at the end of the season. I'd say this year is the perfect year to do anything. He can potentially move to any contender...I doubt he'd be short of offers.

Gary C

12,494 posts

180 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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London424 said:
FW18 said:
Thing is though with Danny Ric, Sainz, Alonso Vettel all having deals that make them free agents at the end of the year, I don't think that Lewis can play too many games this year.
So you're saying that there are potential seats at Merc, Ferrari and Redbull available at the end of the season. I'd say this year is the perfect year to do anything. He can potentially move to any contender...I doubt he'd be short of offers.
That's true !

Almost certainly a seat available at mclaren smile

HTP99

22,602 posts

141 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Gary C said:
London424 said:
FW18 said:
Thing is though with Danny Ric, Sainz, Alonso Vettel all having deals that make them free agents at the end of the year, I don't think that Lewis can play too many games this year.
So you're saying that there are potential seats at Merc, Ferrari and Redbull available at the end of the season. I'd say this year is the perfect year to do anything. He can potentially move to any contender...I doubt he'd be short of offers.
That's true !

Almost certainly a seat available at mclaren smile
Alonso will leave in disgust due to the Honda debacle, Hamilson will re-sign, Honda will finally get their st together and they win the title.

LDN

8,912 posts

204 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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HTP99 said:
Gary C said:
London424 said:
FW18 said:
Thing is though with Danny Ric, Sainz, Alonso Vettel all having deals that make them free agents at the end of the year, I don't think that Lewis can play too many games this year.
So you're saying that there are potential seats at Merc, Ferrari and Redbull available at the end of the season. I'd say this year is the perfect year to do anything. He can potentially move to any contender...I doubt he'd be short of offers.
That's true !

Almost certainly a seat available at mclaren smile
Alonso will leave in disgust due to the Honda debacle, Hamilson will re-sign, Honda will finally get their st together and they win the title.
Knowing Alonso's luck; that is what will happen.

Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Is there another team that's capable of giving Hamilton another title at the moment?

thegreenhell

15,433 posts

220 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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If he leaves Mercedes I can only see him going to Ferrari or retiring. Both Ferrari driver contracts are up for renewal at the end of this season.

amokwa

478 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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thegreenhell said:
If he leaves Mercedes I can only see him going to Ferrari or retiring. Both Ferrari driver contracts are up for renewal at the end of this season.
Spot on.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

96 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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thegreenhell said:
If he leaves Mercedes I can only see him going to Ferrari or retiring. Both Ferrari driver contracts are up for renewal at the end of this season.
I don't think he's Ferrari material. I know Kimi isn't the most media friendly driver, but he doesn't continually post stuff that makes him appear an arse on the internet - and I certainly don't think Ferrari want or need to be associated with the whole 'gangsta' thing.

Vaud

50,623 posts

156 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I don't think he's Ferrari material. I know Kimi isn't the most media friendly driver, but he doesn't continually post stuff that makes him appear an arse on the internet - and I certainly don't think Ferrari want or need to be associated with the whole 'gangsta' thing.
I'd hope Ferrari pick up someone like Sainz (with another years experience).

LDN

8,912 posts

204 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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Trabi601 said:
thegreenhell said:
If he leaves Mercedes I can only see him going to Ferrari or retiring. Both Ferrari driver contracts are up for renewal at the end of this season.
I don't think he's Ferrari material. I know Kimi isn't the most media friendly driver, but he doesn't continually post stuff that makes him appear an arse on the internet - and I certainly don't think Ferrari want or need to be associated with the whole 'gangsta' thing.
Hahaha. Kimi is a more marketable driver than Hamilton? Do Mercedes want to be associated with the 'whole gangsta thing'? Whatever that is... I think not... but Hamilton is the most marketable driver in F1 - and has the highest profile by far. Ferrari would love a piece of that action.
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