Lewis Hamilton
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KevinCamaroSS said:
rubystone said:
Excellent review of his book.
Pity I have not read it yet then.Followed his career with interest, as a 'foreigner' to Europe struggling for cash.
LDN said:
NM62 said:
rubystone said:
Trabi601 said:
Surely even Palmer would stick a Merc on the front row, given the level of their dominance?
Any driver on the grid would, as well as most on the GP2 grid. Once they'd mastered all the systems. As long as neither Mercedes factory driver was in the mix. This is why one can really only measure one's performance against one's team-mate.Palmer was mixing it with Button and Alonso today and the Renault is even worse than the Mclaren so we know Palmer pretty much in the Merc could be much much higher up.
Driving an F1 car isn't hard, driving it to its limit and a bit over is, but these drivers all have the training to drive to an F1 cars limit....
Smollet said:
housen said:
is lewis dating Serena Williams?
that's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
I thought it was Venus who was at Austin? She blanked Brundle during his pre race grid walkthat's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
LAD
Smollet said:
housen said:
is lewis dating Serena Williams?
that's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
I thought it was Venus who was at Austin? She blanked Brundle during his pre race grid walkthat's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
Venus TX, Serena MEX
housen said:
is lewis dating Serena Williams?
that's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
Do you find Venus and Serena hard to tell apart? that's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
Awkward!
(Ps-how do you do hashtags here? I wanted Awkward to be a hashtag but it just reads it as a formatted list)
Disastrous said:
housen said:
is lewis dating Serena Williams?
that's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
Do you find Venus and Serena hard to tell apart? that's 2 f1s in row she's there in his paddock
tbf is a good choice for him
she must be a beast in the bedroom too
Awkward!
thread about to take a big down turn now hahahahah
(Ps-how do you do hashtags here? I wanted Awkward to be a hashtag but it just reads it as a formatted list)
NM62 said:
I don't think so and Gary Anderson didn't think so too, in the run up to Monaco GP on SKY he said that only half the current grid could get in the Merc and get a podium spot in Qualy/Race (he wasn't being specific about Monaco either) - suggesting its not as easy as you may think.
Why not? What's your view on why, once they'd got used to the control systems, any F1 driver on the gird and, say the top 6 GP2 drivers, couldn't get a Merc on the front row of, say, Silverstone? Is it an inability to manage tyres? Aero? As I said, take the regular Merc drivers out of the equation and I really do think we'd see a very close grid if each driver had a shot in them.
rubystone said:
NM62 said:
I don't think so and Gary Anderson didn't think so too, in the run up to Monaco GP on SKY he said that only half the current grid could get in the Merc and get a podium spot in Qualy/Race (he wasn't being specific about Monaco either) - suggesting its not as easy as you may think.
Why not? What's your view on why, once they'd got used to the control systems, any F1 driver on the gird and, say the top 6 GP2 drivers, couldn't get a Merc on the front row of, say, Silverstone? Is it an inability to manage tyres? Aero? As I said, take the regular Merc drivers out of the equation and I really do think we'd see a very close grid if each driver had a shot in them.Or when Hammond pretended he couldn't even take a corner in an F1 without acting like he had forgot how the basics or driving actually worked. It's dumb and it's done to make F1 look better.
Watch any of Bundles drives in modern F1 cars and you can see how forgiving they really are.
Quite why mega mind engineers and crazy areo that could fly a plane if turned upside down and sticky fat rubber and engine maps etc could render a car undrivable but for a few mere mortals is frankly daft and quite offensive to the engineers...
Edited by tommunster10 on Monday 31st October 20:15
tommunster10 said:
There's a lot of silly things around F1 to make it seem like this, Gary was most likley following the party line. Look at when they pitched an F1 car against a race bike...so they pick Guy Martin on a superbike! Not a MotoGP bike.
Or when Hammond pretended he couldn't even take a corner in an F1 without acting like he had forgot how the basics or driving actually worked. It's dumb and it's done to make F1 look better.
Watch any of Bundles drives in modern F1 cars and you can see how forgiving they really are.
Quite why mega mind engineers and crazy areo that could fly a plane if turned upside down and sticky fat rubber and engine maps etc could render a car undrivable but for a few mere mortals is frankly daft and quite offensive to the engineers...
Do you think the likes of Dickie Meaden and Chris Harris were both playing dumb when they've struggled to drive F1 cars in the past?Or when Hammond pretended he couldn't even take a corner in an F1 without acting like he had forgot how the basics or driving actually worked. It's dumb and it's done to make F1 look better.
Watch any of Bundles drives in modern F1 cars and you can see how forgiving they really are.
Quite why mega mind engineers and crazy areo that could fly a plane if turned upside down and sticky fat rubber and engine maps etc could render a car undrivable but for a few mere mortals is frankly daft and quite offensive to the engineers...
Edited by tommunster10 on Monday 31st October 20:15
No your quite correct, they spend millions on these cars to make them impossible to drive but for a very very select few.
Sorry my bad.
You should as a functioning human be able to pretty much drive any car so long as your driving to your limit, the limit of an F1 car is high. With the right training and a bit a self control i'd be amazed if you couldn't get an F1 car round a track at least once.
Chris Harris had ice on track and a very cold day and he did get it round the track and it was far form being a good F1 car.
Tom Cruise drove an F1 car, but then he was NASCAR champion...
Anyway Chris Harris driving an F1 car..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8N6bGOvkY
Sorry my bad.
You should as a functioning human be able to pretty much drive any car so long as your driving to your limit, the limit of an F1 car is high. With the right training and a bit a self control i'd be amazed if you couldn't get an F1 car round a track at least once.
Chris Harris had ice on track and a very cold day and he did get it round the track and it was far form being a good F1 car.
Tom Cruise drove an F1 car, but then he was NASCAR champion...
Anyway Chris Harris driving an F1 car..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8N6bGOvkY
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 1st November 10:10
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 1st November 10:11
Edited by tommunster10 on Tuesday 1st November 10:11
swisstoni said:
Really don't understand the point you are trying to make.
Can anyone trundle an F1 car around a track? Probably.
Can anyone get remotely close to F1 lap times in an F1 car? Not without a lot of talent and training.
What is there to argue about?
Exactly, that's all i said and others have said, so once you get to the fact your an F1 driver with training and experience of GP2 etc etc and some testing miles under your belt i'd say you could get into the Merc F1 and be at the pointy end no problem at all.Can anyone trundle an F1 car around a track? Probably.
Can anyone get remotely close to F1 lap times in an F1 car? Not without a lot of talent and training.
What is there to argue about?
That's the point.
Brundle even says in that video in part 3 on youtube that any driver at the back in the poor cars could get into the front cars and get podiums.
tommunster10 said:
Exactly, that's all i said and others have said, so once you get to the fact your an F1 driver with training and experience of GP2 etc etc and some testing miles under your belt i'd say you could get into the Merc F1 and be at the pointy end no problem at all.
That's the point.
Brundle even says in that video in part 3 on youtube that any driver at the back in the poor cars could get into the front cars and get podiums.
Heikki Kovalainen.That's the point.
Brundle even says in that video in part 3 on youtube that any driver at the back in the poor cars could get into the front cars and get podiums.
rubystone said:
NM62 said:
I don't think so and Gary Anderson didn't think so too, in the run up to Monaco GP on SKY he said that only half the current grid could get in the Merc and get a podium spot in Qualy/Race (he wasn't being specific about Monaco either) - suggesting its not as easy as you may think.
Why not? What's your view on why, once they'd got used to the control systems, any F1 driver on the gird and, say the top 6 GP2 drivers, couldn't get a Merc on the front row of, say, Silverstone? Is it an inability to manage tyres? Aero? As I said, take the regular Merc drivers out of the equation and I really do think we'd see a very close grid if each driver had a shot in them.Highlighted when they changed part of the front suspension on the Mercs (letterbox) in Singapore - again only highlighted in a SKY piece - It threw Lewis and he had to adapt whereas Nico took to it straight away - some wouldn't - some couldn't - some would.
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