Lewis Hamilton
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antspants said:
In isolation those comments certainly do look like thinly veiled digs, and they may well be exactly that, however I'm sure we can imagine what the leading questions were that came before those responses. If he'd given answers that were only complimentary and respectful of Rosberg's decision then would he be criticised for being corporate and hiding his true feelings on the topic. Can't win either way imo so why not be honest.
This, you need to state what the questions were before this can even be construed as digs. What would yo have expected him to say?It still surprises me that many people are surprised that elite athlete at the very top of their game get a bit snarky when it comes to talking about their direct competitors.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
KevinCamaroSS said:
antspants said:
In isolation those comments certainly do look like thinly veiled digs, and they may well be exactly that, however I'm sure we can imagine what the leading questions were that came before those responses. If he'd given answers that were only complimentary and respectful of Rosberg's decision then would he be criticised for being corporate and hiding his true feelings on the topic. Can't win either way imo so why not be honest.
This, you need to state what the questions were before this can even be construed as digs. What would yo have expected him to say?London424 said:
It still surprises me that many people are surprised that elite athlete at the very top of their game get a bit snarky when it comes to talking about their direct competitors.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
This, absolutely. The problem is most people believe the pap fed to them through the media and the agents which is understandable up to a point. I think Hamilton just says it like it is sometimes and this comes as a shock to people who have been fed sanitised stuff for so long.The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
London424 said:
It still surprises me that many people are surprised that elite athlete at the very top of their game get a bit snarky when it comes to talking about their direct competitors.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
So true... for better, or for worse.The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
London424 said:
It still surprises me that many people are surprised that elite athlete at the very top of their game get a bit snarky when it comes to talking about their direct competitors.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
I don't think anybody is surprised. He says a lot of crass things when asked questions. The pattern has continued, even when he's got nothing to gain.The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
London424 said:
It still surprises me that many people are surprised that elite athlete at the very top of their game get a bit snarky when it comes to talking about their direct competitors.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
You're right but there's no need to continue with the mind games when the rival in question has retired! Witness and contrast what happened with Senna and Prost; the bitterness of their rivalry was almost legendary - Hamilton and Rosberg were handbags at dawn in comparison - yet immediately after Prost's final Grand Prix in Australia in 1993 the antagonism disappeared and the two were laughing and joking together in the press conference afterwards. At that horrible weekend at Imola a few months later - the first GP Prost had attended since his retirement - Senna even went out if his way to welcome back his "old friend" and say he was missed. So if after all the problems they'd experienced Senna could manage to be civil and respectful to Prost you'd have hoped Hamilton could have managed the same with Rosberg but sadly not.The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
As for people saying Hamilton's comments on Friday may have been quoted out of context, the article below suggests otherwise and I actually saw a video of the press conference which confirmed he aimed several completely unnecessary digs at Rosberg (sorry, can't find the video now I'm afraid). Clearly some people don't want to believe Lewis could have been quite so ungracious but unfortunately I can assure you he was......
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18187120/lewis...
JNW1 said:
London424 said:
It still surprises me that many people are surprised that elite athlete at the very top of their game get a bit snarky when it comes to talking about their direct competitors.
The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
You're right but there's no need to continue with the mind games when the rival in question has retired! Witness and contrast what happened with Senna and Prost; the bitterness of their rivalry was almost legendary - Hamilton and Rosberg were handbags at dawn in comparison - yet immediately after Prost's final Grand Prix in Australia in 1993 the antagonism disappeared and the two were laughing and joking together in the press conference afterwards. At that horrible weekend at Imola a few months later - the first GP Prost had attended since his retirement - Senna even went out if his way to welcome back his "old friend" and say he was missed. So if after all the problems they'd experienced Senna could manage to be civil and respectful to Prost you'd have hoped Hamilton could have managed the same with Rosberg but sadly not.The very best believe they are the best and will often play mind games in their bid to keep it that way. If they happen to lose out they'll try and justify it in someway or other.
Go through the sports and you'll find plenty of examples.
As for people saying Hamilton's comments on Friday may have been quoted out of context, the article below suggests otherwise and I actually saw a video of the press conference which confirmed he aimed several completely unnecessary digs at Rosberg (sorry, can't find the video now I'm afraid). Clearly some people don't want to believe Lewis could have been quite so ungracious but unfortunately I can assure you he was......
http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18187120/lewis...
Let's be honest, Hamilton could be the nastiest b
d on the grid. He's not going to come and shag your wife - or steal your car. So what's the problem? He fights fair on track; which many legendary drivers haven't managed; and some not so legendary ones also... that's surely the main thing.Perhaps we should start a thread and rank our favourite drivers on personality. Posters could then discuss whether they'd allow their daughter anywhere near X, Y or Z.
Munter said:
LDN really said:
Lewis's personality doesn't fit with my view of him as a driver. So I really, really want people to stop talking about it. The whole situation confuses me.
Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a s
t season to look forward to 
LDN said:
I won't speak for everyone - but I'm not that bothered whether he was crass in his comments or not. Same goes for any driver. I may find it faintly entertaining to be concerned with such things but... Im not sure I get why these threads turn into a discussion regarding personality - over the driving itself.
Let's be honest, Hamilton could be the nastiest bd on the grid. He's not going to come and shag your wife - or steal your car. So what's the problem? He fights fair on track; which many legendary drivers haven't managed; and some not so legendary ones also... that's surely the main thing.
Perhaps we should start a thread and rank our favourite drivers on personality. Posters could then discuss whether they'd allow their daughter anywhere near X, Y or Z.
And that's fair enough if your interest is purely in whether a person is a good driver rather than a good sportsman; however, others have been trying to suggest he hasn't been making ungracious comments and that just flies in the face of the evidence in my view. Your approach is at least honest in the sense you're in effect conceding he's sometimes a prat out of the car but saying you don't care because it's only his driving that matters; personally I'd like to see more than just that from someone at his level in the sport but that's just an opinion and we'll have to agree to differ!Let's be honest, Hamilton could be the nastiest b
d on the grid. He's not going to come and shag your wife - or steal your car. So what's the problem? He fights fair on track; which many legendary drivers haven't managed; and some not so legendary ones also... that's surely the main thing.Perhaps we should start a thread and rank our favourite drivers on personality. Posters could then discuss whether they'd allow their daughter anywhere near X, Y or Z.
LDN said:
Munter said:
LDN really said:
Lewis's personality doesn't fit with my view of him as a driver. So I really, really want people to stop talking about it. The whole situation confuses me.
Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a s
t season to look forward to angrymoby said:
LDN said:
Munter said:
LDN really said:
Lewis's personality doesn't fit with my view of him as a driver. So I really, really want people to stop talking about it. The whole situation confuses me.
Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a s
t season to look forward to LDN said:
angrymoby said:
LDN said:
Munter said:
LDN really said:
Lewis's personality doesn't fit with my view of him as a driver. So I really, really want people to stop talking about it. The whole situation confuses me.
Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a s
t season to look forward to Edited by JNW1 on Monday 5th December 19:51
JNW1 said:
LDN said:
angrymoby said:
LDN said:
Munter said:
LDN really said:
Lewis's personality doesn't fit with my view of him as a driver. So I really, really want people to stop talking about it. The whole situation confuses me.
Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a s
t season to look forward to LDN said:
My view of him as a person is seperate from my view of him as a driver... what's the problem? It's certainly not me that confuses and morphs the two!
Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a st season to look forward to
Hear, hear.Another way of looking at it is... Massa is a nice guy. Almost everyone agrees. Do I want him on the grid next year? No. Because his time is up and there's more exciting drivers. Same deal but opposite way around. People seem strangely obsessed with personality on here. I generally try and steer the conversation back to driving. If it were a personality contest, and only the nice guys were allowed to race; we'd have a s
t season to look forward to LDN said:
No, but if a forum fills up with chat - dissecting press conferences - and the tone that something was said - and a drivers mannerisms - and... you get the picture. On top of that, the majority of posters then place too much credence on it - as though they want a grid of nice 'chaps'... who all 'get along' - talk nicely of each other, blah blah... then yes, it's a 'man up' situation I'm afraid.
You're putting as much credence on it. A chance comment by a poster on here, and you'll jump all over it making a song and dance about it.Between races, when drivers are making comments to the press etc. What do you think people are going to discuss? You don't own the internet. If you don't like people discussing anything but the driving. Why do you not do as you suggest and start your own thread about the driving?
It's a thread entitled "Lewis Hamilton". If you don't want to hear peoples opinions on Lewis Hamilton, what are you doing here, except, presumably, masturbating to every comment that agrees with you?
Munter said:
LDN said:
No, but if a forum fills up with chat - dissecting press conferences - and the tone that something was said - and a drivers mannerisms - and... you get the picture. On top of that, the majority of posters then place too much credence on it - as though they want a grid of nice 'chaps'... who all 'get along' - talk nicely of each other, blah blah... then yes, it's a 'man up' situation I'm afraid.
You're putting as much credence on it. A chance comment by a poster on here, and you'll jump all over it making a song and dance about it.Between races, when drivers are making comments to the press etc. What do you think people are going to discuss? You don't own the internet. If you don't like people discussing anything but the driving. Why do you not do as you suggest and start your own thread about the driving?
It's a thread entitled "Lewis Hamilton". If you don't want to hear peoples opinions on Lewis Hamilton, what are you doing here, except, presumably, masturbating to every comment that agrees with you?
Go and start a Motorsport formula where only nice guys can compete. You could have a personality test - where they have to think of the best compliments for each other... you'll pull in viewing figures in the tens.
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