The Official 2016 USA Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2016 USA Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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ClockworkCupcake said:
sebhaque said:
ETA: If she is (was) friends with Hamilton, then that's even ruder. Being invited to his sport and then blanking some of the biggest media coverage, and one of the famous names, of F1. If I was invited to a friend's event, I certainly wouldn't simply blank anybody who talked to me.
As others have said, she gets microphones shoved in her face all the time and is probably sick of it and just wanted a Sunday off. I doubt she even knew who Martin Brundle was and to her he was probably just yet another faceless reporter. She may not even heard of Sky F1.
There are some people that Brundle knows better than to try to interview, so maybe he'd better add her to that list.
Who really gives a fk? Would she really have anything to say worth listening to?

moanthebairns

17,933 posts

198 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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14 pages, with a championship still on the line and most comments are about celebs on the grid and such.

My God what a fking hump of st. I echo the "track limits" comment mentioned earlier, this was taking the utter piss. Its not like that when the Moto Gp rides there.

A truly dull as fk race on a decent circuit. I turned the highlights on last night, I was sleeping by lap 6, I awoke at 4, put it back on, I was sleep again with 10 to go. For most of these I had my eyes shut trying to get back to sleep. I tried to watch the end of it this morning, getting ready for work, tbf a couple of decent moves but mostly, fking yawn. That was just the highlights.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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VolvoT5 said:
Anyone else notice they slapped Magnussen with a penalty and 2 points on his license for his pass on Kvyat? I mean if they are going to start penalising that kind of thing we might as well give up on the idea of racing completely. His move was also nowhere near as aggressive as Alonso's on Massa....... and interestingly no penalty for that even thought it was very similar to what Rosberg did to Kimi earlier in the year.

Alonso mugged Massa. Who, once again, didn't know what was happening.

Used you're right about Magnusson; they really do seem to want to discourage proper racing.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Stayed up late to catch the highlights on All 4. Now sat at work feeling really tired and wondering why I bothered.

Managed to get a bit of sleep during the race. It really was dull.

Jasandjules

69,867 posts

229 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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RichB said:
What a bizarre world we live in. You will hear that 50 times on TV in most films these days... So Sky just draw attention to it.
And it was after 9pm UK time as well...

Is Kimi being investigated for "rolling down the pit lane" at all?


The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Hungrymc said:
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Max should have parked his car in a safer place - is a talking point and cost his team mate. .....
Picking up on this, Max pulled across the grass and gravel, and parked right next to an opening in the tyre wall which I thought was pretty sensible! What I couldn't understand is why the marshals then proceeded to lift his car rather than simply push it backwards into the safe space behind the tyres. Unless I missed something, there was no need for the car to lifted, no need for the Manitou to be called out, and certainly no need for such a long VSC.

ClockworkCupcake

74,510 posts

272 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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The Surveyor said:
What I couldn't understand is why the marshals then proceeded to lift his car rather than simply push it backwards into the safe space behind the tyres. Unless I missed something, there was no need for the car to lifted
You missed something - the car was stuck in gear and hence couldn't be pushed.

Vaud

50,419 posts

155 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Jasandjules said:
Is Kimi being investigated for "rolling down the pit lane" at all?
Fined €5000 (team fine)

pits

6,429 posts

190 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Max was told to keep going and get car back to pit.
He told team the car is fked.
Team eventually saw on board And realised the car is fked and told him to park up.
Max had one option to get off track safely, otherwise he would have had to cut across a corner, at 30mph with traffic.
Then the car wouldn't go into neutral, if it had gone in to neutral, it would have rolled off the track into the gap he parked at.


As for Venus Williams, seriously no one fking cares, talk about racing not lack of interviews.


Alonso on Massa was fair, they may have touched but that's racing.
Alonso on Kvyat was a bit ropey and maybe should have been looked at.
Kev was off track by miles and completed the move off track, should have handed it back.



One o forgot to mention, hopefully now have someone decent in Hulkenberg seat next year.


The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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ClockworkCupcake said:
The Surveyor said:
What I couldn't understand is why the marshals then proceeded to lift his car rather than simply push it backwards into the safe space behind the tyres. Unless I missed something, there was no need for the car to lifted
You missed something - the car was stuck in gear and hence couldn't be pushed.
Ok, so still not Max's fault then.

sandman77

2,402 posts

138 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Vaud said:
Fined €5000 (team fine)
I think that was for an unsafe release and not for rolling backwards into the pit lane exit. I'm sure Brundle said it was against the rules to use reverse gear in the pit lane so by rolling backwards downhill in neutral he escaped any penalty.


Derek Smith

45,612 posts

248 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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An interesting rather than exciting race I thought.

It was enlivened by some really exciting overtaking. I'm a McL fan so was getting excited by Alonso when he was seventh and closing, so the last few laps were good for me. I'm no fan of the term 'body language' for a racing driver, but I could see that he was up for it.

Vettel causing problems at the first corner again. He needs some correction I think.

Verstappen started well but I can't see why he's MotR.


Vaud

50,419 posts

155 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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sandman77 said:
I think that was for an unsafe release and not for rolling backwards into the pit lane exit. I'm sure Brundle said it was against the rules to use reverse gear in the pit lane so by rolling backwards downhill in neutral he escaped any penalty.
Ah yes, you are right...

DS240

4,656 posts

218 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Didn't really see much issue with max limping back to the pits. When no longer possible he pulled off to a massive opening. Not being able to get into neutral was the problem, and even then it was at the back of a gravel trap. Can't really see how he messed up.

Race control should be able to communicate with drivers or teams, like you here broadcast on endurance racing. Could have told raikkonen to just reverse/freewheel down the hill therefore avoiding possible safety car. It was no where near being a dangerous manouvre with that track lay out.

V.Williams was rude on the grid but no great drama. Spent most the race looking miserable in the garage.

Rosberg taking it easy today, not risking it when he was probably beaten on pace.

Thought the race might be a bit more interesting. It wasn't too bad though and Red Bull's pace kept the Mercedes honest. Some good and some sloppy moves up and down the field.

Podium fairly amusing. Butler struggled a little once he'd used up his one or two questions he'd thought about beforehand.

Ferrari need to get their act together for next year.

Track limits pretty much ignored.

Pretty much the highlights how I saw the race.




VladD

7,854 posts

265 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Kimi didn't have much of a choice really. The only other option was to turn the engine off and wait for marshals to appear to return the car to the pit lane for him. Actually he could have got out and let the car do its own thing, but I expect that would have been frowned upon.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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jsf said:
She isn't a piece of meat or a corporate robot. If she said no that should have been enough.

You are basically saying, because she is a well known personality, she cant be a normal person when not at work.

Brundle couldn't care less she blanked him, people do it all the time, its just sad you think because she is famous she isn't also human and entitled to chose who she interacts with.
You clearly did not see Venus sitting in the VIP area of Mercedes garage.

She was totally not interested sitting with her shades on with a face like a sour grape.

As mentioned she is on the grid with the Worlds press. If she does not want to be seen they stay in the garage.

She could have been polite at least.

NRS

22,133 posts

201 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
mollytherocker said:
Its pretty funny that you think that the fact Lewis left Nico and he couldn't catch him, means he is now Alain Prost.

So, everybody that finishes 2nd is Alain Prost?
Nico had the pace at Suzuka so went for the win at this race was different, with Nico knowing Lewis had him for pace this weekend you don't feel that Nico decided to make this a damage limitation race by minimising the deficit Lewis could make up? Which is exactly the strategy Prost would take, so while no I don't think Nico or anyone else is Alain in this instance with a WDC on the line yes I believe he adopted this strategy for this race.

It's pretty funny you can't see that could be the case.
I don't really agree with you. It was just the typical Mercedes team race. First driver after the first lap (approximately) will normally win comfortably - even more so when the other driver ends up behind another car at some point. The only reason to have known if Rosberg was driving to make sure of the points was if he had raced DR on track and been very careful then. He didn't, so all we know is he drove around doing what either driver does when they are not the lead car. It doesn't show anything one way or the other.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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Is anyone else getting fed up with the amount of investigations happening during a race?

Alonso's move on Massa was pure class and Massa actually turned into him when he saw the car alongside.

F1 is about overtaking and close racing but again it seems to be turning into a nanny state sport.

Remember Villeneve and Arnoux. They would be banned now frown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xASPhBrkIZM

Lastly the track limits rules are a total joke. Austin track was hardly used yesterday.

Joking apart get the gravel traps back. No one would finish biggrin

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 24th October 11:32

sandman77

2,402 posts

138 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Is anyone else getting fed up with the mount of investigations happening during a race?

Alonso's move on Massa was pure class and Massa actually turned into him when he saw the car alongside.

F1 is about overtaking and close racing but again it seems to be turning into a nanny state sport.

Remember Villeneve and Arnoux. They would be banned now frown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xASPhBrkIZM
Absolutely. Drivers will soon be too afraid to make a move for fear of getting a penalty.

I don't think the Alonso/Massa move was investigated though was it?

carl_w

9,172 posts

258 months

Monday 24th October 2016
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VladD said:
Kimi didn't have much of a choice really. The only other option was to turn the engine off and wait for marshals to appear to return the car to the pit lane for him. Actually he could have got out and let the car do its own thing, but I expect that would have been frowned upon.
As Brundle said though, why didn't the team meet him at the end of the pit lane (once he'd crossed the line) and put the wheel on properly? Is it because he switched the engine off outside of the pit lane hence his race was over?