ways to make Formula 1 interesting again
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SeeFive said:
Seems like 10 lap wet races are the order of the day.
Put a young lad with nothing to lose in a very good car way back on newer tyres than almost everyone else and see how many claim him as the next messiah
He's also been accused of being a very naughty boyPut a young lad with nothing to lose in a very good car way back on newer tyres than almost everyone else and see how many claim him as the next messiah
ok ok that's my last monty python esque quote for this week
S0 What said:
SeeFive said:
Seems like 10 lap wet races are the order of the day.
Put a young lad with nothing to lose in a very good car way back on newer tyres than almost everyone else and see how many claim him as the next messiah
He's also been accused of being a very naughty boyPut a young lad with nothing to lose in a very good car way back on newer tyres than almost everyone else and see how many claim him as the next messiah
ok ok that's my last monty python esque quote for this week
He won't say!
Well, of course not. If I knew the secret of eternal life, I wouldn't say.
williamp said:
HardtopManual said:
Younger audiences don't expect to have to pay anything for content. They watch stuff on YouTube, on their phones. All the services they use on the internet are free - FaceBook, Twitter, Instagram, SnapChat, DropBox etc. It's all completely free (free as in beer).
This year the Indy 500 was streamed live over its own Youtube channel. I put up with the adverts (Dodge ram, etc etc) because the race itself, plus build up etc was free. Both Indy and NASCAR stream free to youtube. They have worked out that this bit can be free, as we all see the adverts.I was watching it when the internet/cable went down during the F1 yesterday!
STOP THE PRESS, Someone has just spotted the Elephant in the room.
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QuattroDave said:
He did very much make todays race interesting, one of the very few times I've wanted there to be a few more laps!
OMG it was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO f
king dull!!!I thought a 'race' involved driving flat out & attempting to overtake everyone. Perhaps I'm old fashioned...
Still, at least the gangsta didn't win the championship
QuattroDave said:
ian2144 said:
What Hamilton has just done at Abu Dhabi ........!
He did very much make todays race interesting, one of the very few times I've wanted there to be a few more laps!
Maybe they should routinely put the lowest scoring driver in the best car, automatically give him pole and give him double points if he can keep the grid behind him.
I was thinking, actually, that maybe the best thing to do with F1 is leave it alone. All of the best things- like great runs from the back of the grid, or great scraps like Bahrain in 2014 all seem to be more to do with chance and less to do with any specific change the F1 bods make.
Scrapping tracks like Abu Dhabi might be a good start... what a terrible track to end the season on.
IDK I think one of the Sky guys (maybe Brundle?) suggested having a strict budget cap but having much looser technical regulations within that cap. That sounds like a good idea in theory to me. At the moment the rules are tight and the big boys are spending a fortune on squeezing out performance in the small areas they are allowed to develop; surely it would be better to restrict them on resources and reward the more creative teams. I imagine the likes of Force India would do well under such a system.
As it is I think the new regulations for next year could be a step backwards. Increased front aero is going to mean an even bigger 'dirty air' effect.... as if following closely enough to launch a move wasn't hard enough already.
IDK I think one of the Sky guys (maybe Brundle?) suggested having a strict budget cap but having much looser technical regulations within that cap. That sounds like a good idea in theory to me. At the moment the rules are tight and the big boys are spending a fortune on squeezing out performance in the small areas they are allowed to develop; surely it would be better to restrict them on resources and reward the more creative teams. I imagine the likes of Force India would do well under such a system.
As it is I think the new regulations for next year could be a step backwards. Increased front aero is going to mean an even bigger 'dirty air' effect.... as if following closely enough to launch a move wasn't hard enough already.
Budget caps have been talked about for as long as I remember (and were supposed to be part of the 2014 year weren't they? I'm sure that's why any jumped on board.), but they're just unrealistic. How can you scrutinize how much money a company like Merc or Ferrari is spending on one project, or how much a part cost to design?
Yeah, dumping the crap tracks would be a place to start. I've no problem with how Hamilton drove this year at Abu Dhabi, but the way that he could back up Rosberg without presenting a risk to himself, and likewise how easily Rosberg could be caught but how hard he was to pass should have been impossible. Monaco is famously rubbish, but I guess it's been around for long enough to be kept as a novelty.
Yeah, dumping the crap tracks would be a place to start. I've no problem with how Hamilton drove this year at Abu Dhabi, but the way that he could back up Rosberg without presenting a risk to himself, and likewise how easily Rosberg could be caught but how hard he was to pass should have been impossible. Monaco is famously rubbish, but I guess it's been around for long enough to be kept as a novelty.
My 2p's worth:
I was an avid follower of F1 until some 5 or so years back. It then just became the same old cliche circus. I've seen the odd race since - always enjoyed the Monaco GP, & followed the WDC standings. The 'spectacle' has been anything but. I thought I'd watch the Abu Dhabi race, as it was billed as an end of season 'down to the wire' shoot-out, & the channel 4 ads were convincing.
So: the young hotshot Verstappen gets spun in the first lap - low & behold, there is about 100 metres of 'extra' tarmac at the side of the track for him to just rejoin. WTF??? Then there's all this DRC nonsense, a track you can't actually overtake, run-off areas wider than the track itself, aerodynamics that don't allow you to get close enough to overtake, & to top it all, the guy in first place trying to drive slowly! Really, is this the best of motorsport?
I was an avid follower of F1 until some 5 or so years back. It then just became the same old cliche circus. I've seen the odd race since - always enjoyed the Monaco GP, & followed the WDC standings. The 'spectacle' has been anything but. I thought I'd watch the Abu Dhabi race, as it was billed as an end of season 'down to the wire' shoot-out, & the channel 4 ads were convincing.
So: the young hotshot Verstappen gets spun in the first lap - low & behold, there is about 100 metres of 'extra' tarmac at the side of the track for him to just rejoin. WTF??? Then there's all this DRC nonsense, a track you can't actually overtake, run-off areas wider than the track itself, aerodynamics that don't allow you to get close enough to overtake, & to top it all, the guy in first place trying to drive slowly! Really, is this the best of motorsport?
Biker 1 said:
, & to top it all, the guy in first place trying to drive slowly! Really, is this the best of motorsport?
I was with you up until this. It's racing! Lewis is a racer, he wants to win, he did as much as he possibly could to win the championship short of punting Nico off in such a way that he could rejoin but Nico couldn't. It was a bit like how in snooker sometimes there's not enough left on the table to win, and you need to force your opponent into a difficult position to make up the points. To paraphrase Training Day, it's not draughts, it's chess!
Brilliant to watch IMO, real nail-biting final few laps.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 28th November 09:22
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