Nico Rosberg retires from F1

[Gary C]

chrisf_v6 said:

Hub said:

"Nico, you're retiring suddenly - are you sure?"

"For sure I am sure"

LOL. That's another good reason that I won't miss the talentless cheating prick.

No, you can't call him talentless. No one driving in f1 is talentless.

[r11co]

b0rk said:

You could easily argue that Senna certainly, Alonso slightly or the lesser extent Schumi all exhibit similar character traits, this may be something that in the personality of multi WDC's that gives them the drive and motivation to become multi WDC's. Vettel of late has not been particularly media friendly or forward thinking with repeated public rants.

I'd agree entirely with that. Perhaps that is what Nico meant when he said he found it particularly tough this year, meaning to become the selfish and almost psychotically self-assured person one needs to be to win the WDC. It doesn't go well with being a family man and is probably not the sort of person he wants to be, which is why he stepped back before it consumed him or because he couldn't maintain that persona. It may make him weaker as a driver, but with someone who wants more from his life it makes sense.

Just like the boxer who decides 10 years' reign as undisputed champion is not worth the brain-damage!

[Hungrymc]

BubblesNW said:

r11co said:

It's called being more than a one-trick pony. Hamilton has displayed very publicly over the last five days that he's not a deep thinker or particulalry skilled with language. With a few choice phrases he has at best demonstrated poor judgement and a lack of self awareness, and at worst a narcissistic streak that goes beyond the typical F1 'will to win'.

As an F1 driver he needs to be quick and win races. He's not a diplomat, politician or religious leader. Let him race and be done with it.

Let Nico go if he wishes but at the end of the day he's won one championship which puts him on a par with many others but Lewis and others will always be at another level if you look at the record books. F1 is like cricket or golf, there are numbers but no pictures in the record books,

you're wasting your time.

Lewis, 3 times WDC, but not a deep thinker or a philosopher. Drove slowly on Sunday. Has an extraordinary record and surprisingly has traits that could be 'beyond the typical F1 will to win'.... String him up I say !!!

Nico,1 times WDC, crashes deliberatly in an already dangerous sport. A paragon of maturity and selflessnes.

Either there is a lot of bks being spouted on this thread or my skills of comprehension have taken a drastic turn for the worst.

[danllama]

Do we think its possible to get to where Lewis is, without being an incredibly strong personality?

I don't. He'd go far in life even outside of F1.

[BrabusMog]

Hamilton is focussed, Rosberg can't do it to the same level, hence the retirement. Not a criticism, but it's patently obvious. It's like when your business gets to a certain size or you get to a certain level within the company you work for, and you either heavily reinvest or you cash out, people with drive keep working and people with aspirations of having a life outside their work environment step away. I was shocked at Rosberg's decision, he should have done one more season if he has a backbone.

[chrisf_v6]

Gary C said:

chrisf_v6 said:

Hub said:

"Nico, you're retiring suddenly - are you sure?"

"For sure I am sure"

LOL. That's another good reason that I won't miss the talentless cheating prick.

No, you can't call him talentless. No one driving in f1 is talentless.

Good point. Can I go with 'pretty quick but clueless wheel to wheel cheating prick'?

[Gary C]

chrisf_v6 said:

Gary C said:

chrisf_v6 said:

Hub said:

"Nico, you're retiring suddenly - are you sure?"

"For sure I am sure"

LOL. That's another good reason that I won't miss the talentless cheating prick.

No, you can't call him talentless. No one driving in f1 is talentless.

Good point. Can I go with 'pretty quick but clueless wheel to wheel cheating prick'?

[r11co]

chrisf_v6 said:

cheating prick

If you can actually back that statement up rather than it just being the bitter retort of a Hamilton fanboi who perceives everyone else as the enemy and believes that Hamilton's failings are someone's, something's or anything else's fault but his own (even from within his own team), then yes you can run with it.

Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 23:36

[37chevy]

r11co said:

If you can actually back that statement up rather than it just being the bitter retort of a Hamilton fanboi who perceives everyone else as the enemy and believes that Hamilton's failings are someone's, something's or anything else's fault but his own (even from within his own team), then yes you can run with it.

Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 23:36

Oh go on il do that

Monoco qualifying..parking it
Hungary yellow flag incident
Spa running into Lewis
Austria running Lewis off road
Hockenheim running others off the road
Barcelona...yeh maybe 50/50
Bahrain upping the engine setting from the pre agreed level whilst duelling with Hamilton to try and beat him

That's not to say Hamilton is whiter than white....but thought I'd point you in The right direction

[chrisf_v6]

r11co said:

chrisf_v6 said:

cheating prick

If you can actually back that statement up rather than it just being the bitter retort of a Hamilton fanboi who perceives everyone else as the enemy and believes that Hamilton's failings are someone's, something's or anything else's fault but his own (even from within his own team), then yes you can run with it.

Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 23:36

Done twice this season not good enough? Neither cost him any point but there you go.

[BrabusMog]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Motherfkers. Has there ever been a PH thread accelerate to this level ?
Eighteen (broadsheet) pages in half a day ?


Bottom line ,LH may want to be the besets ever for ever. Cool starry bra. (previously lambasted for commenting on this is all he has)

Nico may be the Prost to Senna, dull to many - but in reality, he's won "The Thing" the very pinnacle of what he has been living and breathing forever.

He - or actually more importantly "They" have enough money to retire.
Why is it that any other walk of life its OK to walk away and enjoy your earnings, yet on PH unless you face down death daily and win forever until you are let down by others (ahem : excuse age catching up on you) you are a quitter ?

Better still - for an utterly genuine reason : he's actually made the headlines.

Crack on Nico and well done

I think that's a bit of a harsh post on PH's. Yes, he's got his win, but many people would want to consolidate that. He can dress it up whatever way he wants, but he's got more seasons in him at the top level and he's decided to duck out. Also, his "retirement" from driving in one of the most exciting cars on the planet is not the same as saying, "that's enough, I'm not sitting through another budget meeting/supplier presentation/restructure committee concern workshop," etc, etc. These guys have a hobby for a living, he knows deep down he's not good enough to win again.

[LDN]

Fair play to Nico; but he was never going to be a legend in F1. Those slots are reserved for the likes of Alonso and Hamilton (of the modern crop).

As for R11co.... Our resident, bitter, bum; 'Hamilton is the Paul Gascoigne of F1' - wow, you heard it here first folks.

[Evangelion]

Well I'm definitely not a Rosberg fan (nor a Hamilton fanboi before you ask) but I will miss him next season. The majority of F1 World Champions have come back to defend their titles and I would have liked to see him doing that.

But I respect his reasons for quitting and in doing so, wonder if we are guilty of judging him by our own standards. After all, like (I suspect) many others on here, I would cheerfully pay many millions, if I had them, to do a season in an F1 car, and cannot understand why someone who gets paid to do it, would walk away.

[Hungrymc]

37chevy said:

r11co said:

If you can actually back that statement up rather than it just being the bitter retort of a Hamilton fanboi who perceives everyone else as the enemy and believes that Hamilton's failings are someone's, something's or anything else's fault but his own (even from within his own team), then yes you can run with it.

Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 23:36

Oh go on il do that

Monoco qualifying..parking it
Hungary yellow flag incident
Spa running into Lewis
Austria running Lewis off road
Hockenheim running others off the road
Barcelona...yeh maybe 50/50
Bahrain upping the engine setting from the pre agreed level whilst duelling with Hamilton to try and beat him

That's not to say Hamilton is whiter than white....but thought I'd point you in The right direction

That was heading in the direction of "what have the romans ever done for us".
Nothing 50/50 about Barcelona. Crazy dive from one edge of the track to the other, moving late, in the wrong engine mode.
Austria is the money shot though.

[danllama]

BrabusMog said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Motherfkers. Has there ever been a PH thread accelerate to this level ?
Eighteen (broadsheet) pages in half a day ?


Bottom line ,LH may want to be the besets ever for ever. Cool starry bra. (previously lambasted for commenting on this is all he has)

Nico may be the Prost to Senna, dull to many - but in reality, he's won "The Thing" the very pinnacle of what he has been living and breathing forever.

He - or actually more importantly "They" have enough money to retire.
Why is it that any other walk of life its OK to walk away and enjoy your earnings, yet on PH unless you face down death daily and win forever until you are let down by others (ahem : excuse age catching up on you) you are a quitter ?

Better still - for an utterly genuine reason : he's actually made the headlines.

Crack on Nico and well done

I think that's a bit of a harsh post on PH's. Yes, he's got his win, but many people would want to consolidate that. He can dress it up whatever way he wants, but he's got more seasons in him at the top level and he's decided to duck out. Also, his "retirement" from driving in one of the most exciting cars on the planet is not the same as saying, "that's enough, I'm not sitting through another budget meeting/supplier presentation/restructure committee concern workshop," etc, etc. These guys have a hobby for a living, he knows deep down he's not good enough to win again.

I think he may look at Schumi and see what happened to him with his skiing accident and realise how quickly it can all be snuffed out. I know if I was in his or any of their positions I would. Imagine years and years of racing and then a rock puts you to bed.

One win would be enough for me I think, if I was financially comfortable for life.

[Chessers]

Fair play to Rosberg, won the WDC and is going out on a high.

I'm not a huge fan of his, but it doesn't matter who did or didn't do what, who played/drove fairly or not fairly, who sulked more. He drove well all season and held his nerve in AD under pressure, so well done.

Seems he dedicated himself totally to last season, he got some breaks and is a deserving Champion, doesn't get much better, so good luck to him.

He may have decided that he has not got the passion to do it again and even if he has he may not get the result he is looking for. He has a family now, doesn't need the cash, so is what it is.

Good for him, F1 WDC.

[heebeegeetee]

r11co said:

or particulalry skilled with language.

Hmm.

[BrabusMog]

danllama said:

BrabusMog said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Motherfkers. Has there ever been a PH thread accelerate to this level ?
Eighteen (broadsheet) pages in half a day ?


Bottom line ,LH may want to be the besets ever for ever. Cool starry bra. (previously lambasted for commenting on this is all he has)

Nico may be the Prost to Senna, dull to many - but in reality, he's won "The Thing" the very pinnacle of what he has been living and breathing forever.

He - or actually more importantly "They" have enough money to retire.
Why is it that any other walk of life its OK to walk away and enjoy your earnings, yet on PH unless you face down death daily and win forever until you are let down by others (ahem : excuse age catching up on you) you are a quitter ?

Better still - for an utterly genuine reason : he's actually made the headlines.

Crack on Nico and well done

I think that's a bit of a harsh post on PH's. Yes, he's got his win, but many people would want to consolidate that. He can dress it up whatever way he wants, but he's got more seasons in him at the top level and he's decided to duck out. Also, his "retirement" from driving in one of the most exciting cars on the planet is not the same as saying, "that's enough, I'm not sitting through another budget meeting/supplier presentation/restructure committee concern workshop," etc, etc. These guys have a hobby for a living, he knows deep down he's not good enough to win again.

I think he may look at Schumi and see what happened to him with his skiing accident and realise how quickly it can all be snuffed out. I know if I was in his or any of their positions I would. Imagine years and years of racing and then a rock puts you to bed.

One win would be enough for me I think, if I was financially comfortable for life.

Whilst I don't agree with that view, I can understand it.

[anonymous-user]

Since Rosberg and Lewis became teammates at Mercedes in 2013 until 2016 their retirements over the 3 seasons are

Rosberg 6

Lewis 7

Pretty close and fair.

I was going to add McLaren with Alonso and Button but lost count

[LDN]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

Since Rosberg and Lewis became teammates at Mercedes in 2013 until 2016 their retirements over the 3 seasons are

Rosberg 6

Lewis 7

Pretty close and fair.

I was going to add McLaren with Alonso and Button but lost count

It is fair - but things aren't always crystal. If the majority of one's mishaps is in one season - rather than spread over two / or even three... not arguing with you; just saying these stats are never quite what some would like them to be. Having said that; it's nice that it is more or less even in their time together.