Nico Rosberg retires from F1

Nico Rosberg retires from F1

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vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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So basically Max has had the same gilded opportunity as Rosberg?

Catatafish

1,361 posts

145 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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vonuber said:
So basically Max has had the same gilded opportunity as Rosberg?
Yes, and if you don't like it you'll get your legs broke/a vehicle through your living room.

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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vonuber said:
So basically Max has had the same gilded opportunity as Rosberg?
I wouldn't consider an overbearing brute of a father and sacrificing your teenage years to hone your craft as gilded. A spotlight on Beverly Hills reveals gilded upbringings, many of whom turn into dead-heads with just an IG account to flaunt their parents wealth.

LDN

8,911 posts

203 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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I think Keke would have been a saint of a father next to Jos. I think Max may well have some stories to tell; when he's an old man.

Evangelion

7,728 posts

178 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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LDN said:
I think Keke would have been a saint of a father next to Jos. I think Max may well have some stories to tell; when he's an old man.
In other words, when his old man's no longer around.

On the other hand, I'm sure someone in his position can afford some large minders, so could ditch his dad fairly easily should he wish to.

williamp

19,257 posts

273 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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speaking of 90s Dutch F1 journeymen/ le mans winners, my favourite was Jan Lammers.

Alicatt1

805 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th December 2016
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LDN said:
By all accounts, Jos is a real bd. His reputation is quite something...
He has been done for breaching his restraining order against his ex wife and for assaulting a man at a karting circuit from which he got a suspended sentence, he does not have a good reputation here in Belgium - but then again not many Dutch do wink He lives not that far from where I live in Limburg.

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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'The sins of the fathers are to be laid upon the children' . Shouldn't that quote stay in The Merchant of Venice rather than be used to beat up young Max, who is responsible for keeping me awake much more than usual during this year's Grands Prix ?

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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PeterY27 said:
If he's like that you can bet his son is like it, thinks he is better than the rest, sounds like a complete d**khead.
You could argue that the majority of WDC's character is not much different- Senna, Prost, Shuey, Hamilton etc- all single minded, they think they are the best and pursue nothing but the win (and often get it)
Even the "nice guys" of F1 (like Jenson) are pretty "driven" people, he was so busy racing he divorced his wife as didn't have time to live with her!

Other elite sports persons are typically very single minded (easily recognised as d**kheads by sane people)
Muhammad Ali, Lance Armstrong, John Mcenroe etc... all clearly bonkers and possible certifiable and driven to win even if it means bending the rules, using your fame to influence the judges/crowd, anything to win...
(Lance may have gone "a bit" far- taking huge mountains of drugs and enrolling scores of people into blood doping over almost a decade but he did win 7 Tours and almost got away with it.)

Why should an F1 driver be any different- Hamilton is a good example (although he seems sane compared to Armstrong, for example) he uses the media and his imagine to make money and raise his profile compared to his team mates and competitors, this allows him room to behave as he sees fit, even if its disobeying his employer- who must secretly be so happy as everything he and Rosberg have done this year has caused tones of news to be written about Mercedes- no such thing as bad news when it comes to advertising :-)

I'd rather watch emotional drivers free to behave and act out their emotions- Hamilton, Kimi, Alonso, Max to an extent- if they don't get out of a car and hurl their gloves at the wreck after it fails they weren't really trying hard enough :-)

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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scubadude said:
Why should an F1 driver be any different- Hamilton is a good example (although he seems sane compared to Armstrong, for example) he uses the media and his imagine to make money and raise his profile compared to his team mates and competitors, this allows him room to behave as he sees fit, even if its disobeying his employer- who must secretly be so happy as everything he and Rosberg have done this year has caused tones of news to be written about Mercedes- no such thing as bad news when it comes to advertising :-)
Yes!

Think of the imagine. hehe

SmoothCriminal

5,059 posts

199 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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Fair play to Nico for putting Lauda in his place the hypocrite.

Evangelion

7,728 posts

178 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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funkyrobot said:
Yes!

Think of the imagine. hehe
People all the imagine!

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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SmoothCriminal said:
Fair play to Nico for putting Lauda in his place the hypocrite.
Linky?

smile

BrabusMog

20,149 posts

186 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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PeterY27 said:
If he's like that you can bet his son is like it,
On that basis you are insinuating we all turn out as carbon copies of our fathers !

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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BrabusMog said:
Thanks.

This bit made me think of Hamilton:

'“We need the quickest guy who makes the least mistakes and understands that this is a team game,” Wolff said.'

hehe

jm doc

2,791 posts

232 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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SmoothCriminal said:
Fair play to Nico for putting Lauda in his place the hypocrite.
Hardly call that putting him in his place, rather it was a bit pathetic and a pretty different scenario to what Rosberg did. He's starting to get quite defensive now, and just like his driving, not very good at it....

Redlake27

2,255 posts

244 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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BrabusMog said:
Prompted me to google my way down memory lane.

A very rare picture, this one. Brabham introduced the BT49 for the final two races of 1979. Lauda decided to quit during free practice, saying racing was 'driving around in circles'. Brabham had a couple of hours to find a replacement driver, not a couple of months like Toto has.....


http://www.forix.com/8w/lauda/nl-cdn79.jpg

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Friday 9th December 2016
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jm doc said:
Hardly call that putting him in his place, rather it was a bit pathetic and a pretty different scenario to what Rosberg did. He's starting to get quite defensive now, and just like his driving, not very good at it....
??

Nico beat his teammate 33 times at Mercedes. Pretty good driving.

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Redlake27 said:
Prompted me to google my way down memory lane.

A very rare picture, this one. Brabham introduced the BT49 for the final two races of 1979. Lauda decided to quit during free practice, saying racing was 'driving around in circles'. Brabham had a couple of hours to find a replacement driver, not a couple of months like Toto has.....


http://www.forix.com/8w/lauda/nl-cdn79.jpg
See my post above about the same thing - Lauda was always very much his own man- and the bravest one I have seen in a racing car.