Nico Rosberg retires from F1

Nico Rosberg retires from F1

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The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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PeterY27 said:
what i want to know is what everyone thinks is a better way to retire?
Better for who? What Nico has done is the best for him. To retire at the top of his game and nicely in the afterglow of his WDC. Two fingers to his team, buy out his contract and off into the nice safe cash lined sunset.

For Mercedes, the best way would have been for Nico to work through the contract that he's just signed and leave when that expires, help finish the development of the 2017 car, help the team towards another WCC, get to the end and follow on with some consultancy and a 'brand ambassador' role.

The worse way for all concerned is to stay in a sport when your heart is no longer in it.



768

13,707 posts

97 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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PeterY27 said:
what i want to know is what everyone thinks is a better way to retire?
As a multiple WDC? smile

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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PeterY27 said:
what i want to know is what everyone thinks is a better way to retire?

You'll get a thousand different opinions, at least biggrin

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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sparta6 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Ironically, the majority of those things weren't against the rules but were so good rules were changed.

The things which were referred to, some of which were on that list, were against existing rules.

There's a difference between ingenuity and cheating.
What specific cheating are you referring to ?
In which context?

I would say hidden traction control and modified refuelling rigs would be examples of cheating in the same way that adding lead shot to water tanks after a race is cheating.

Active suspension, CVT and double diffusers are examples of ingenuity.

jm doc

2,793 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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37chevy said:
Ouch...lauda isn't happy....

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns35431.html
Just shows Rosberg's total disrespect to the team and complete lack of class.

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I bow to nobody in my admiration of Lauda the man and the driver but let's not forget he told Bernie he was fed up with driving round in circles in his Brabham - Canada GP '79 was it ?- and packed his kit and buggered off home- during a race weekend .....

Disastrous

10,088 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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jm doc said:
37chevy said:
Ouch...lauda isn't happy....

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns35431.html
Just shows Rosberg's total disrespect to the team and complete lack of class.
rofl

Behave!

LDN

8,911 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Disastrous said:
jm doc said:
37chevy said:
Ouch...lauda isn't happy....

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns35431.html
Just shows Rosberg's total disrespect to the team and complete lack of class.
rofl

Behave!


All jokes aside... there's many who think as Lauda does. Why sign a new contract if you weren't going to race again?

jm doc

2,793 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Disastrous said:
jm doc said:
37chevy said:
Ouch...lauda isn't happy....

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns35431.html
Just shows Rosberg's total disrespect to the team and complete lack of class.
rofl

Behave!
getmecoat



swisstoni

17,035 posts

280 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Lauda is really just a mascot at Merc. He plays with the media to give Toto some time.
Like Bernie, he just says any old st.

jm doc

2,793 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Hungrymc said:
The final sentence : He's annoyed that they won't have two WDC drivers (extra value if both have won a WDC in the Merc obviously). I'm surprised he said that, might even revive a few conspiracy theorists.
To be honest, Mercedes confirmed those theories themselves didn't they when they actually gave a formal instruction several times during the last race of the season to Rosberg's only rival telling him that he had to help Rosberg win the title, rather than let him try and win it himself.

Wolfe and Lauda were visibly desperate men that day, under huge pressure which surely could only have come directly from the Mercedes board itself. And roping Paddy Lowe into making those radio calls was shameful.

Nice to see them reaping the rewards...

Vaud

50,607 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ferrisbueller said:
Active suspension, CVT and double diffusers are examples of ingenuity.
Williams had an advanced CVT in the pipeline some years ago - any view on why it was blocked?

Edit - I just found the youtube of it. It sounded rubbish.

DJFish

5,923 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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sparta6 said:
PeterY27 said:
what i want to know is what everyone thinks is a better way to retire?

You'll get a thousand different opinions, at least biggrin
Chased off a cliff by topless girls in brightly coloured elbow pads?

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ferrisbueller said:
sparta6 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Ironically, the majority of those things weren't against the rules but were so good rules were changed.

The things which were referred to, some of which were on that list, were against existing rules.

There's a difference between ingenuity and cheating.
What specific cheating are you referring to ?
In which context?

I would say hidden traction control and modified refuelling rigs would be examples of cheating in the same way that adding lead shot to water tanks after a race is cheating.

Active suspension, CVT and double diffusers are examples of ingenuity.
I there any documentary evidence of these items?

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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sparta6 said:
ferrisbueller said:
sparta6 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Ironically, the majority of those things weren't against the rules but were so good rules were changed.

The things which were referred to, some of which were on that list, were against existing rules.

There's a difference between ingenuity and cheating.
What specific cheating are you referring to ?
In which context?

I would say hidden traction control and modified refuelling rigs would be examples of cheating in the same way that adding lead shot to water tanks after a race is cheating.

Active suspension, CVT and double diffusers are examples of ingenuity.
I there any documentary evidence of these items?
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cheating+in+F1

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ferrisbueller said:
Nope. Can't find any concrete documentary evidence of those items.

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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sparta6 said:
ferrisbueller said:
Nope. Can't find any concrete documentary evidence of those items.
rofl

sparta6

3,699 posts

101 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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ferrisbueller said:
rofl
Allegations sure. Proven, none.


The Independent, Saturday 3, 1994

Brawn's claim that the system had not been used during the 1994 season could neither be proved nor disproved; the FIA's decision to publicise their findings suggested that they had their suspicions. After all, if Launch Control was now redundant, why had it had been left sitting in the software? Because, the Benetton people said, the task of isolating and removing it was one of impossible complexity. (The concealment, they added, was simply to prevent somebody switching it on by mistake.)

In the very next race, at Hockenheim, Schumacher suffered his first retirement of the season in front of his home crowd. And Jos Verstappen's car briefly disappeared inside a fireball when fuel spurted out of a hose and ignited on the hot engine - the result, said the equipment's manufacturers, of Benetton's illicit removal of a filter, by which they speeded up the fuel-flow (perhaps saving a second per stop, which Senna would have been interested to hear) but which had allowed a piece of dirt to jam a valve open. In their own defence, Benetton claimed that the modification had been verbally agreed with the FIA's technical observer, and commissioned an independent investigation which, unsurprisingly, exonerated them.

ferrisbueller

29,343 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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In other news I'm looking forward to seeing Santa Claus in a few weeks.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Can anyone with any knowledge of programming explain to me why hiding code is easier than removing it completely?

This is a formula one team - not a cottage industry? It baffles me how the process could be so bloody complex as to be in achievable for them