Nico Rosberg retires from F1
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LDN said:
By all accounts, Jos is a real b
d. His reputation is quite something...
At the silversone 6 hours a few yeas ago he was driving a Porsche Lmp2. At the drivers autograph signing, everyone had team overalls. Except Jos. Jos wore a leather jacket and looked 'ard. Why? Because hes Jos....d. His reputation is quite something...Certainly a charachter in the paddock!
williamp said:
LDN said:
By all accounts, Jos is a real bd. His reputation is quite something...
At the silversone 6 hours a few yeas ago he was driving a Porsche Lmp2. At the drivers autograph signing, everyone had team overalls. Except Jos. Jos wore a leather jacket and looked 'ard. Why? Because hes Jos....d. His reputation is quite something...Certainly a charachter in the paddock!
He is well 'ard.
Google Jos Girlfriend manslaughter.........Jos has previously been found guilty of assault on his ex-wife in 2008 and of GBH following a fight with rival kart circuit customers in 2000. He did not serve a jail term in either case, but may do following the latest incident, in which De Standaard reports claim that he struck a 24-year old ex-girlfriend with his car, leaving her with 'heavy bruises and abrasions', before fleeing the scene.
Verstappen, now 39 and looking after the karting career of his son, later handed himself in to police in the south-eastern city of Roermond, but is accused of previous attacks on the same woman
Verstappen, now 39 and looking after the karting career of his son, later handed himself in to police in the south-eastern city of Roermond, but is accused of previous attacks on the same woman
Edited by Shelsleyf2 on Wednesday 7th December 18:35
We will see the real Max in a couple of years. He is obviously talented but it won't be until he distances himself from his father that he will find his own way. I believe the good bits of Max come from talent and training plus focus from his dad. I also think that the marginal elements have come from his upbringing/father. Jos is living the "what could have been"through his son (which had helped to a point). In a similar way to Hamilton, at some stage Max will need to drop his dad to go to the next level. I look forward to seeing that.
VolvoT5 said:
jm doc said:
37chevy said:
Just shows Rosberg's total disrespect to the team and complete lack of class.CBA to quote it all and probably shouldn't since it is a premium feature but:
autosport said:
When Rosberg solidly trounced Schumacher over three years, did he receive accolades? No, suddenly Schumacher had lost it, had got too old, did not understand Pirelli's tyres - name it, excuses were trotted out. Then, just when Mercedes came really good, thanks in no small part to Rosberg's engineering insight, non-executive chair Niki Lauda went shopping for Hamilton.
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When things went wrong between them, as they did in 2014 in Belgium, then this season in Spain, Canada and Austria, it was invariably Rosberg who left team briefings under a cloud despite the incidents being what can be described as 'racing incidents' even if they were between team-mates.
Consider Hamilton's refusal to do media briefings, failure to turn up at functions, sudden ailments when tests beckoned; then recall that a smiling Rosberg was always there, best face forward, every word a sponsor's delight. Forget that he dearly wished to be home with his family while Hamilton partied on all sides of the globe: Rosberg was there for Mercedes. Yet, when chips were down, such contributions were conveniently overlooked.
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When things went wrong between them, as they did in 2014 in Belgium, then this season in Spain, Canada and Austria, it was invariably Rosberg who left team briefings under a cloud despite the incidents being what can be described as 'racing incidents' even if they were between team-mates.
Consider Hamilton's refusal to do media briefings, failure to turn up at functions, sudden ailments when tests beckoned; then recall that a smiling Rosberg was always there, best face forward, every word a sponsor's delight. Forget that he dearly wished to be home with his family while Hamilton partied on all sides of the globe: Rosberg was there for Mercedes. Yet, when chips were down, such contributions were conveniently overlooked.
Edited by VolvoT5 on Wednesday 7th December 14:37
Presumably NR wrote it himself
M3ax said:
We will see the real Max in a couple of years. He is obviously talented but it won't be until he distances himself from his father that he will find his own way. I believe the good bits of Max come from talent and training plus focus from his dad. I also think that the marginal elements have come from his upbringing/father. Jos is living the "what could have been"through his son (which had helped to a point). In a similar way to Hamilton, at some stage Max will need to drop his dad to go to the next level. I look forward to seeing that.
It's at times like this it's even more of a shame Schumacher isn't able to be that mentor. He'd be perfect for Max.Maybe Nico will be that instead...
sparta6 said:
37chevy said:
there was an interview from Jos who took over michaels car at heockenheim after destroying his in practice...and straight away went a couple of seconds a lap quicker IIRC
No disrespect to Jos, but probably because Michael knows how to set up a car properly.I reckon Jos learned quite a bit alongside Michael and has passed that onto young Max
There's so much hoohar surrounding Michael who really knows ?? i guess as we've seen with Lewis there's a lot of testicals said and it's up to people to decide what the truth actually is which is why people are so polarised about them, belief takes no proof just a desire to believe.
S0 What said:
Ivine said Michael was not that good at car set up but was brilliant once it was there, untouchable in fact, he said Michael often took his set up for the race, not sure if there's any stock in that? (during an interview aboard his yatch at one of the monaco races a few years after Eddie retired), mind you Michael did spend a lot of time developing the car?
There's so much hoohar surrounding Michael who really knows ?? i guess as we've seen with Lewis there's a lot of testicals said and it's up to people to decide what the truth actually is which is why people are so polarised about them, belief takes no proof just a desire to believe.
There was a similar comment about Massa - that he knew how to set up a car - and why Schumacher liked him so much.There's so much hoohar surrounding Michael who really knows ?? i guess as we've seen with Lewis there's a lot of testicals said and it's up to people to decide what the truth actually is which is why people are so polarised about them, belief takes no proof just a desire to believe.
Probably true. The reality is that Schumacher probably made the most of his and his team mates set up... who wouldn't want a strong technical no 2 driver?
S0 What said:
Ivine said Michael was not that good at car set up but was brilliant once it was there, untouchable in fact, he said Michael often took his set up for the race, not sure if there's any stock in that? (during an interview aboard his yatch at one of the monaco races a few years after Eddie retired), mind you Michael did spend a lot of time developing the car?
There's so much hoohar surrounding Michael who really knows ?? i guess as we've seen with Lewis there's a lot of testicals said and it's up to people to decide what the truth actually is which is why people are so polarised about them, belief takes no proof just a desire to believe.
Did Irvine also state that when the Ferrari was better their times were a lot closer. It was when the Ferrari was pretty poor that Schumacher was able to make it do things that Irvine was unable to follow.There's so much hoohar surrounding Michael who really knows ?? i guess as we've seen with Lewis there's a lot of testicals said and it's up to people to decide what the truth actually is which is why people are so polarised about them, belief takes no proof just a desire to believe.
Shelsleyf2 said:
Re Jos and not taking any S**T. Whilst I never witnessed the following, I believe it to be 100% true . At a kart meeting Max was competing in not so very long ago. There was contact on the track between Max and another driver. Jos sought out the team awning of the driver making contact with Max. Said driver was driving for a very large and respected team. Jos parked his van facing the awning opening , went inside and accosted the team principle,raised voices and the following threat was heard. "If any of your drivers hit Max I will drive my van through your awning" This was taken to be a promise and not a threat. Needless to say the driving standards improved immediately.
Jos not a man to be trifled with
Looking forward to Lewis and Max having a coming together in 2017.Jos not a man to be trifled with
Hope Sky have a camera following Jos
Joking apart I personally after hearing and reading what he has been up too in the past have totally lost any respect for him.
Not like he would care a crap about anyone's thoughts about him.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 7th December 22:22
Shelsleyf2 said:
Google Jos Girlfriend manslaughter.........Jos has previously been found guilty of assault on his ex-wife in 2008 and of GBH following a fight with rival kart circuit customers in 2000. He did not serve a jail term in either case, but may do following the latest incident, in which De Standaard reports claim that he struck a 24-year old ex-girlfriend with his car, leaving her with 'heavy bruises and abrasions', before fleeing the scene.
Verstappen, now 39 and looking after the karting career of his son, later handed himself in to police in the south-eastern city of Roermond, but is accused of previous attacks on the same woman
Jos allegedly beat up his father earlier this year...what a lovely fellow!Verstappen, now 39 and looking after the karting career of his son, later handed himself in to police in the south-eastern city of Roermond, but is accused of previous attacks on the same woman
Edited by Shelsleyf2 on Wednesday 7th December 18:35
There is plenty of unsavoury history around Jos. I'm surprised it doesn't get dragged into the media more often - they're waiting to pick the right moment when Max achieves something brilliant.
I also wonder what type of pressure Max has been under as having a thug for a pushy parent could be a nightmare. He seems balanced and supremely confident now, I hope he stays like that once the pressure is really on and he has to contend with a few set backs.
I also wonder what type of pressure Max has been under as having a thug for a pushy parent could be a nightmare. He seems balanced and supremely confident now, I hope he stays like that once the pressure is really on and he has to contend with a few set backs.
funkyrobot said:
That's probably why Max is good at overtaking. All of the other drivers are too scared to challenge him.
'Kimi, errm, let Max through. Jos is waiting in the garage with a tyre iron. He has said he is doing a pit stop, but we're not convinced.'
Surely, Jos has to wind his neck in and behave amongst the F1 elite. Not sure his behaviour would be tolerated for that long...'Kimi, errm, let Max through. Jos is waiting in the garage with a tyre iron. He has said he is doing a pit stop, but we're not convinced.'
Hungrymc said:
There is plenty of unsavoury history around Jos. I'm surprised it doesn't get dragged into the media more often - they're waiting to pick the right moment when Max achieves something brilliant.
I also wonder what type of pressure Max has been under as having a thug for a pushy parent could be a nightmare. He seems balanced and supremely confident now, I hope he stays like that once the pressure is really on and he has to contend with a few set backs.
I dont recall the particulars (age, race etc..) but last year there was a story about how when racing, Max once botched an overtake and ended up crashing out of the race. Jos was pissed off enough that he literally did not speak to him for a week, not a single word.I also wonder what type of pressure Max has been under as having a thug for a pushy parent could be a nightmare. He seems balanced and supremely confident now, I hope he stays like that once the pressure is really on and he has to contend with a few set backs.
Max may have been forged in the hottest of fires and become a brilliant driver as a result, but i dont think he has a happy carefree childhood to look back on.
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