Nico Rosberg retires from F1

Nico Rosberg retires from F1

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Harji

2,198 posts

161 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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CraigyMc said:
Michael77 said:
I still don't get all the negativity towards Rosberg.
It's because he won without being the best.
He was the best, he won.

Harji

2,198 posts

161 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Vaud said:
S0 What said:
Ivine said Michael was not that good at car set up but was brilliant once it was there, untouchable in fact, he said Michael often took his set up for the race, not sure if there's any stock in that? (during an interview aboard his yatch at one of the monaco races a few years after Eddie retired), mind you Michael did spend a lot of time developing the car?
There's so much hoohar surrounding Michael who really knows ?? i guess as we've seen with Lewis there's a lot of testicals said and it's up to people to decide what the truth actually is which is why people are so polarised about them, belief takes no proof just a desire to believe.
There was a similar comment about Massa - that he knew how to set up a car - and why Schumacher liked him so much.

Probably true. The reality is that Schumacher probably made the most of his and his team mates set up... who wouldn't want a strong technical no 2 driver?
I doubt it, when Berger and Alesi went to Benetton they spent that season undoing Schumachers set up, he had a very nervous set up with the massive oversteer making the car very twitchy, and for these two it was completely different to their set ups. I remember this from a Motorsport magazine interview with one of them.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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jm doc said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Fair play to Nico for putting Lauda in his place the hypocrite.
Hardly call that putting him in his place, rather it was a bit pathetic and a pretty different scenario to what Rosberg did. He's starting to get quite defensive now, and just like his driving, not very good at it....
Succinctly put.

Being honest I don't know much of the 79 season and Laudas reasoning but a car with 11 retirements of 13 grands prix doesn't compare favourably to what drossberg walked away from.

glazbagun

14,279 posts

197 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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hairyben said:
jm doc said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Fair play to Nico for putting Lauda in his place the hypocrite.
Hardly call that putting him in his place, rather it was a bit pathetic and a pretty different scenario to what Rosberg did. He's starting to get quite defensive now, and just like his driving, not very good at it....
Succinctly put.

Being honest I don't know much of the 79 season and Laudas reasoning but a car with 11 retirements of 13 grands prix doesn't compare favourably to what drossberg walked away from.
Call me paranoid, but I'm detecting a little bit of bias here.

ZX10R NIN

27,604 posts

125 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Picture this you've spent 18 years trying to get to the top of your game & when you get there you don't feel the elation you were expecting you're financially secure & will want for nothing.

Do you carry on for another season, in a slightly toxic atmosphere within your team as well as having to raise your game again (I thought he looked broken in Abu Dhabi especially when you compare how he looked after Baku for example) not only to fight your team mate but Max Dan & Seb to.

If you don't have it in you to give it your all then I say walk away as you're no good to yourself or your team as well as blocking a space for someone who wants to be there.

So from my point of view I commend his honesty, for someone to look at themselves & say I'm can't repeat this level of performance is something special especially when he could just run around underperforming for his team whilst collecting large sums of money with no remorse, now that to me would be disgraceful & warrant some of the name calling on here.


hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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glazbagun said:
hairyben said:
jm doc said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Fair play to Nico for putting Lauda in his place the hypocrite.
Hardly call that putting him in his place, rather it was a bit pathetic and a pretty different scenario to what Rosberg did. He's starting to get quite defensive now, and just like his driving, not very good at it....
Succinctly put.

Being honest I don't know much of the 79 season and Laudas reasoning but a car with 11 retirements of 13 grands prix doesn't compare favourably to what drossberg walked away from.
Call me paranoid, but I'm detecting a little bit of bias here.
what do you want, a medal? a certificate of merit for stating the bleeding obvious?

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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hairyben said:
what do you want, a medal? a certificate of merit for stating the bleeding obvious?
I'm sure your mum has washed your Lewis duvet set in time for bedtime...

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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hairyben said:
what do you want, a medal? a certificate of merit for stating the bleeding obvious?
rofl

So aggressive over something so unimportant.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
Picture this you've spent 18 years trying to get to the top of your game & when you get there you don't feel the elation you were expecting you're financially secure & will want for nothing.

Do you carry on for another season, in a slightly toxic atmosphere within your team as well as having to raise your game again (I thought he looked broken in Abu Dhabi especially when you compare how he looked after Baku for example) not only to fight your team mate but Max Dan & Seb to.

If you don't have it in you to give it your all then I say walk away as you're no good to yourself or your team as well as blocking a space for someone who wants to be there.

So from my point of view I commend his honesty, for someone to look at themselves & say I'm can't repeat this level of performance is something special especially when he could just run around underperforming for his team whilst collecting large sums of money with no remorse, now that to me would be disgraceful & warrant some of the name calling on here.

NAIL HIT HEAD

...do you get out of the piranha pit while you can or jump back in and get a nasty bite.

Was rosberg the best driver this year? NO
Did he win because he had the most reliable car? YES

does it matter one bit? NO....a champion is a champion.....

...but could the perfect storm of a dominant car and your only realistic rival having so many issues (driving and mechanical) happen again? UNLIKELY...

...so for Nico he's achieved his aims, he can retire to his pad in monoco with a gorgeous wife, young kid, chillax on the beach and get his balls wet for the next 50 odd years with no stress...who wouldn't want that! Let's move on and leave the chap alone, and instead look forward to a 2017 that could be bloody interesting

Leroy902

1,540 posts

103 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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What's the chances the same people saying they're glad Nico has retired at the top would be doing the complete opposite had it been Lewis retiring about winning a wdc...

leglessAlex

5,449 posts

141 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Disastrous said:
hairyben said:
what do you want, a medal? a certificate of merit for stating the bleeding obvious?
rofl

So aggressive over something so unimportant.
That could be PH's motto biggrin

Jasandjules

69,889 posts

229 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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37chevy said:
who wouldn't want that! Let's move on and leave the chap alone, and instead look forward to a 2017 that could be bloody interesting
Well, perhaps being a little silly here but I'd love to be driving an F1 car. I can't imagine how much more exciting things can be - I'd love to know how it compares to parachuting but my jumps are over in minutes, driving these beasts is hours of thrill.

Don't get me wrong I know it is stressful but surely the sheer thrill of hurling those things about makes up for that?!?!? I can't imagine giving up until I pretty much had to....

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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37chevy said:
Let's move on and leave the chap alone
You could learn from your own posts. The rest of your post is largely diminishing his achievements.

ZX10R NIN

27,604 posts

125 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Jasandjules said:
37chevy said:
who wouldn't want that! Let's move on and leave the chap alone, and instead look forward to a 2017 that could be bloody interesting
Well, perhaps being a little silly here but I'd love to be driving an F1 car. I can't imagine how much more exciting things can be - I'd love to know how it compares to parachuting but my jumps are over in minutes, driving these beasts is hours of thrill.

Don't get me wrong I know it is stressful but surely the sheer thrill of hurling those things about makes up for that?!?!? I can't imagine giving up until I pretty much had to....
But that's the point he's no longer enjoying F1, in which case why stay? Also do you think you'd love F1 after spending 10 years doing it not being able to eat what you like sponsors events to attend simulator time then back to the factory for debriefs etc & that's before you go racing.

Now my natural response is to say yes but I kind of understand that it's not always the case, i've spent a lot of time/money racing bikes to a decent level but in the end I gave up for few reasons I wasn't fast enough to progress any further, the off track politics was draining & made the time spent on the bike less enjoyable to the point where I'd had enough, Now I do trackdays which for me are more enjoyable with no stress to spoil my day.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Trabi601 said:
You could learn from your own posts. The rest of your post is largely diminishing his achievements.
Eh? Not diminishing his achievements...just being realistic and stating facts...was he the best driver? No..did he deserve the championship? Yea

Edited by 37chevy on Saturday 10th December 22:02

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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37chevy said:
Eh? Not diminishing his achievements...just being realistic and stating facts...was he the best driver? No..did he deserve the championship? Yea

Edited by 37chevy on Saturday 10th December 22:02
Yes you are. You just did it again.
Face it - Lewis lost this year and that's that.

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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vonuber said:
Yes you are. You just did it again.
Face it - Lewis lost this year and that's that.
No!....I'm not diminishing his achievement, I'm stating facts....yes Lewis lost, can't deny that....but read my post again, while rosberg wasn't the best driver He deserves the championship....

That's not just an opinion, it's factually based...rosberg scored more points = deserves championship....but that doesn't mean he's the best driver.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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37chevy said:
No!....I'm not diminishing his achievement, I'm stating facts....yes Lewis lost, can't deny that....but read my post again, while rosberg wasn't the best driver He deserves the championship....

That's not just an opinion, it's factually based...rosberg scored more points = deserves championship....but that doesn't mean he's the best driver.
And you're off again.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Disastrous said:
hairyben said:
what do you want, a medal? a certificate of merit for stating the bleeding obvious?
rofl

So aggressive over something so unimportant.
You call that aggression? Mind where you go in life snowflake.

So the childish throwaway jibe (not sorry, get over it) gets you all squawking like theres a cat in an avery but no-ones interested in the actual point I make...

37chevy

3,280 posts

156 months

Sunday 11th December 2016
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Trabi601 said:
And you're off again.
ok then, instead of criticising, tell me what I said that was incorrect...