Nico Rosberg retires from F1
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I think Lewis has more of a fighter's underdog mentality which has driven him on. Nico was more of the son trying to match the achievements of his father so as not to look a failure. Once he had achieved that he has nothing more to prove to himself, no need to ever try and please anyone but himself so can walk away satisfied as he now won't be judged as a failure.
It's a shame as 2017 could have been interesting but it appears Nico had nothing more to give and had he not won this year he may have been a broken man in 2017 anyway.
Personally I would like to see Verstappen as Hamilton's team mate next year, it could make Senna vs Prost look like a love in by comparison.
It's a shame as 2017 could have been interesting but it appears Nico had nothing more to give and had he not won this year he may have been a broken man in 2017 anyway.
Personally I would like to see Verstappen as Hamilton's team mate next year, it could make Senna vs Prost look like a love in by comparison.
JustinF said:
Leroy902 said:
I can see why Lewis would grate some people up the wrong way, but good lord f1 would be boring without him.
A thread about the current wdc retiring a week after lifting the trophy, and the thread somehow becomes the Lewis Hamilton thread like every other on this forum.
Whether you love or hate him, he's without a doubt the biggest, recognised person in motorsport history.
Like fA thread about the current wdc retiring a week after lifting the trophy, and the thread somehow becomes the Lewis Hamilton thread like every other on this forum.
Whether you love or hate him, he's without a doubt the biggest, recognised person in motorsport history.
k he is!They will be holding up the next new name as the greatest thing etc etc .
I am not a fan of many of the current crop of drivers ,they lack grace ,manners and sportsmanship.
BubblesNW said:
I think Lewis has more of a fighter's underdog mentality which has driven him on. Nico was more of the son trying to match the achievements of his father so as not to look a failure. Once he had achieved that he has nothing more to prove to himself, no need to ever try and please anyone but himself so can walk away satisfied as he now won't be judged as a failure.
It's a shame as 2017 could have been interesting but it appears Nico had nothing more to give and had he not won this year he may have been a broken man in 2017 anyway.
Personally I would like to see Verstappen as Hamilton's team mate next year, it could make Senna vs Prost look like a love in by comparison.
I can't see why Danny or Max would want to leave Red Bull. The idea that Merc is a dead cert for next year is crazy. If I had a free choice, I'd want to be in the Red Bull. It's a shame as 2017 could have been interesting but it appears Nico had nothing more to give and had he not won this year he may have been a broken man in 2017 anyway.
Personally I would like to see Verstappen as Hamilton's team mate next year, it could make Senna vs Prost look like a love in by comparison.
I'm also not convinced that we'll see Max beat Daniel over a full season if they have the best car. I don't doubt he's got the potential to be WDC, but so has Daniel. And if they both have a realistic shot at it, I think we might see Daniel come out on top. I think he has a better head for it with the extra experience.
Jez
ChilliWhizz said:
Old Merc said:
ChilliWhizz said:
Feck me, I've just looked at Max's Dad's racing history, and OMG, whilst I remember watching Jos race, it seemed like a century ago but JHC, Max's Dad was born the same year as my youngest daughter 
Feck I've got old really quickly
You're not old.I'm older than KEKE Rosberg,my first Grand Prix was in 1975. Feck I've got old really quickly
Edited by ChilliWhizz on Friday 2nd December 18:06
BubblesNW said:
I think Lewis has more of a fighter's underdog mentality which has driven him on. Nico was more of the son trying to match the achievements of his father so as not to look a failure. Once he had achieved that he has nothing more to prove to himself, no need to ever try and please anyone but himself so can walk away satisfied as he now won't be judged as a failure.
It's a shame as 2017 could have been interesting but it appears Nico had nothing more to give and had he not won this year he may have been a broken man in 2017 anyway.
Personally I would like to see Verstappen as Hamilton's team mate next year, it could make Senna vs Prost look like a love in by comparison.
I am with you on much of this, Verstappen would really shake it up but I can't see it happening. Rosberg has gained my respect today, I don't buy the wet flannel talk, none of us really understand the pressure these guys work under or appreciate the strain of racing off against Hamilton season in and out, looks to me like he's had enough, lucky boy, wealth, health and in one piece.It's a shame as 2017 could have been interesting but it appears Nico had nothing more to give and had he not won this year he may have been a broken man in 2017 anyway.
Personally I would like to see Verstappen as Hamilton's team mate next year, it could make Senna vs Prost look like a love in by comparison.
I really don't get the Nico love in and, yes, I am an unapologetic Hamilton fan.
Rosberg is a very good driver - you don't wup Schumacher over a season if you're not.
He's run Lewis extremely close over the past three seasons but when push came to shove he invariably resorted to cheating and got away with it more often than not. Whether it's deliberately hitting Lewis at Spa, or out braking himself in Monaco then reversing out of the slip road cos he 'had no idea where Lewis was' or running Lewis off the road on a straight in Barcelona or 'lifting' for the yellows in qualifying but still setting his fastest sector or forgetting to turn for a corner altogether. Wasn't he given two penalties this season? Neither of which cost him a single point.
A lot of people saying his decision is 'classy'. Huh? I don't blame him one bit. He knows you don't get as lucky as he did this season more than once but how is it classy? It's understandable but in no way classy to fluke a world championship then call it a day - see Tyson Fury for example.
Rosberg is a very good driver - you don't wup Schumacher over a season if you're not.
He's run Lewis extremely close over the past three seasons but when push came to shove he invariably resorted to cheating and got away with it more often than not. Whether it's deliberately hitting Lewis at Spa, or out braking himself in Monaco then reversing out of the slip road cos he 'had no idea where Lewis was' or running Lewis off the road on a straight in Barcelona or 'lifting' for the yellows in qualifying but still setting his fastest sector or forgetting to turn for a corner altogether. Wasn't he given two penalties this season? Neither of which cost him a single point.
A lot of people saying his decision is 'classy'. Huh? I don't blame him one bit. He knows you don't get as lucky as he did this season more than once but how is it classy? It's understandable but in no way classy to fluke a world championship then call it a day - see Tyson Fury for example.
Leroy902 said:
I can see why Lewis would grate some people up the wrong way, but good lord f1 would be boring without him.
A thread about the current wdc retiring a week after lifting the trophy, and the thread somehow becomes the Lewis Hamilton thread like every other on this forum.
Whether you love or hate him, he's without a doubt the biggest, recognised person in motorsport history.
REALLY?A thread about the current wdc retiring a week after lifting the trophy, and the thread somehow becomes the Lewis Hamilton thread like every other on this forum.
Whether you love or hate him, he's without a doubt the biggest, recognised person in motorsport history.
Leithen said:
Excellent piece by Richard Williams on Rosberg's decision.
Yeah, apart from the not very well veiled dig at Hamilton when talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle never bothered us when it was good old Barry Sheene or James Hunt or George Best. A 'rock and roll' lifestyle was to be admired back then. Put a gold chain round your neck though and you're lynched. It ain't subtle and it ain't pretty.Durzel said:
Leithen said:
Excellent piece by Richard Williams on Rosberg's decision.
+1chrisf_v6 said:
Yeah, apart from the not very well veiled dig at Hamilton when talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle never bothered us when it was good old Barry Sheene or James Hunt or George Best. A 'rock and roll' lifestyle was to be admired back then. Put a gold chain round your neck though and you're lynched. It ain't subtle and it ain't pretty.
Their lifestyles all contributed to their early deaths though.Durzel said:
Leithen said:
Excellent piece by Richard Williams on Rosberg's decision.
+1chrisf_v6 said:
Leithen said:
Excellent piece by Richard Williams on Rosberg's decision.
Yeah, apart from the not very well veiled dig at Hamilton when talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle never bothered us when it was good old Barry Sheene or James Hunt or George Best. A 'rock and roll' lifestyle was to be admired back then. Put a gold chain round your neck though and you're lynched. It ain't subtle and it ain't pretty.
chrisf_v6 said:
Leithen said:
Excellent piece by Richard Williams on Rosberg's decision.
Yeah, apart from the not very well veiled dig at Hamilton when talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle never bothered us when it was good old Barry Sheene or James Hunt or George Best. A 'rock and roll' lifestyle was to be admired back then. Put a gold chain round your neck though and you're lynched. It ain't subtle and it ain't pretty.chrisf_v6 said:
Leithen said:
Excellent piece by Richard Williams on Rosberg's decision.
Yeah, apart from the not very well veiled dig at Hamilton when talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle never bothered us when it was good old Barry Sheene or James Hunt or George Best. A 'rock and roll' lifestyle was to be admired back then. Put a gold chain round your neck though and you're lynched. It ain't subtle and it ain't pretty.A common criticism of Rosberg has been his privileged upbringing. This seems to counter the consequences of that perception.
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