Nico Rosberg retires from F1
Discussion
Leithen said:
A common criticism of Rosberg has been his privileged upbringing. This seems to counter the consequences of that perception.
Indeed, which is why I believe he thinks he has to achieve more in life than just following in his father's footsteps.WDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
Leithen said:
Sorry, I don't see any dig against Hamilton in the article. Just a reflection on a man's character from someone who has observed him far more closely than anyone here. A common criticism of Rosberg has been his privileged upbringing. This seems to counter the consequences of that perception.
You're probably right. Not sure who the 'Rosberg's great cos he's a normal guy' part was aimed at. It's like the start of 2014 when the BBC were pointing out that Professor Nico was likely to have the edge because the engines would be too complicated for Lewis.r11co said:
Indeed, which is why I believe he thinks he has to achieve more in life than just following in his father's footsteps.
WDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
HahahahahhahahahahahahaWDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
r11co said:
WDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly.
Well blow me down.....Hamilton is doing his job, establishing himself as a multiple world champion, second on the all time win list and 3rd on pole positions.....how exactly is rosberg going to establish himself more firmly?chrisf_v6 said:
r11co said:
Indeed, which is why I believe he thinks he has to achieve more in life than just following in his father's footsteps.
WDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
HahahahahhahahahahahahaWDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
37chevy said:
Well blow me down.....Hamilton is doing his job, establishing himself as a multiple world champion, second on the all time win list and 3rd on pole positions.....how exactly is rosberg going to establish himself more firmly?
It's called being more than a one-trick pony. Hamilton has displayed very publicly over the last five days that he's not a deep thinker or particulalry skilled with language. With a few choice phrases he has at best demonstrated poor judgement and a lack of self awareness, and at worst a narcissistic streak that goes beyond the typical F1 'will to win'.chrisf_v6 said:
Sorry r11co, that wasn't constructive but the continued allusions to intellect really piss me off.
When you say it pisses you off, what do you mean? It is clear that Rosberg is quite smart academically, are you disputing that or do you just disagree that Hamilton isn't as academically adept? Or something else entirely?
r11co said:
Indeed, which is why I believe he thinks he has to achieve more in life than just following in his father's footsteps.
WDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
That doesn't even begin to make sense. WDC in F1 will be the peak of Hamilton's achievements IMO. Nico will establish himself more firmly. An analogy with football - Hamilton is Paul Gascoigne while Nico is Gary Lineker.
r11co said:
It's called being more than a one-trick pony. Hamilton has displayed very publicly over the last five days that he's not a deep thinker or particulalry skilled with language. With a few choice phrases he has at best demonstrated poor judgement and a lack of self awareness, and at worst a narcissistic streak that goes beyond the typical F1 'will to win'.
Andddd there you go talking s
t again. Instead of telling us all how nico will be able to establish himself more than Hamilton, you've just bashed Lewis again instead........it's rather an interesting approach as you have commented several times on how Hamilton is the first to blame other for his problems, and yet that's all you seem to be doing....qualifying your answers by bad nothing other people....define irony eh?!
Question
If Nico had won the first wdc when merc became the leading team, and was significantly faster than his team mate and was looking at an almost certain further two WDC titles, do we think he would have retired ?
I do think he has reached what he feels is his pinnacle, so why risk his life and spend so much time away from his family ( which unlike Hamilton, is obviously very important to him) for little to gain.
Hamilton still has the hunger and has always been more single minded.
so to me, congrats Nico, shame we won't see you defend your title.
If Nico had won the first wdc when merc became the leading team, and was significantly faster than his team mate and was looking at an almost certain further two WDC titles, do we think he would have retired ?
I do think he has reached what he feels is his pinnacle, so why risk his life and spend so much time away from his family ( which unlike Hamilton, is obviously very important to him) for little to gain.
Hamilton still has the hunger and has always been more single minded.
so to me, congrats Nico, shame we won't see you defend your title.
37chevy said:
Instead of telling us all how nico will be able to establish himself more than Hamilton, you've just bashed Lewis again instead.....
There's more to life than F1. Nico made that patently clear today. Think Jackie Stewart, Niki Lauda et al.Nico's father ensured he had an education so that if he wanted to he could step out of F1 and still make it in the world. Hamilton has known nothing but racing since primary school age. He's a great driver because of it, but he's got a lot to learn about being a human being, as he has demonstrated very publicly off the racetrack these past few days.
37chevy said:
I'd rather see r11co retire.......or be put down, eithers good :-p
Seems Hamilton is not the only one who needs to learn how to be civil.Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 23:14
r11co said:
Hamilton has displayed very publicly over the last five days that he's not a deep thinker or particulalry skilled with language. With a few choice phrases he has at best demonstrated poor judgement and a lack of self awareness, and at worst a narcissistic streak that goes beyond the typical F1 'will to win'.
You could easily argue that Senna certainly, Alonso slightly or the lesser extent Schumi all exhibit similar character traits, this may be something that in the personality of multi WDC's that gives them the drive and motivation to become multi WDC's. Vettel of late has not been particularly media friendly or forward thinking with repeated public rants. 
r11co said:
It's called being more than a one-trick pony. Hamilton has displayed very publicly over the last five days that he's not a deep thinker or particulalry skilled with language. With a few choice phrases he has at best demonstrated poor judgement and a lack of self awareness, and at worst a narcissistic streak that goes beyond the typical F1 'will to win'.
As an F1 driver he needs to be quick and win races. He's not a diplomat, politician or religious leader. Let him race and be done with it. Let Nico go if he wishes but at the end of the day he's won one championship which puts him on a par with many others but Lewis and others will always be at another level if you look at the record books. F1 is like cricket or golf, there are numbers but no pictures in the record books,
r11co said:
Seems Hamilton is not the only one who needs to learn how to be civil.
How has Hamilton demonstrated that over the last few days...to me he took the loss badly as would any driver but has congratulated nico several times.Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 23:14
In terms of establishing themselves out of f1, welll everyone is different..just because Hamilton isn't a family man it doesn't mean he's not established....he's an f1 driver, quite frankly who cares what he does out of f1....that's not his purpose in life...he's there to do a job and win the WC...that's it
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