Nico Rosberg retires from F1
Discussion
Evangelion said:
The following is a list of all the drivers who have won the WDC then not stayed in F1 the following year to defend it. (One had a good excuse.)
Mike Hawthorn (1958)
Jochen Rindt (1970)
Nigel Mansell (1992)
Alain Prost (1993)
Nico Rosberg (2016)
In other words, the other 28 all did.
Does this mean Hamilton has to carry the number 0 next year?
Jackie Stewart (1973)?Mike Hawthorn (1958)
Jochen Rindt (1970)
Nigel Mansell (1992)
Alain Prost (1993)
Nico Rosberg (2016)
In other words, the other 28 all did.
Does this mean Hamilton has to carry the number 0 next year?
anonymous said:
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What an arrogant and ill informed load nonsense.The worst I have said about Nico is that he has had a very good year and is a deserving WDC. He will not be one of the greats and used some dubious tactics as will many of them.
The best I have said about Lewis is he is a very good driver, may become one of the greats, and has interest and likes that don't align with mine or most F1 fans. And that he can be a knob. You mentioned some crap about the messiah, not me.
Pretty graceless to just make stuff up and claim it as fact to try and bolster a dubious argument. You and your ilk seem determined to make things up to suit your position. I have no confusion as to why people find him irritating. I however think the lynch mob calling for his sacking for using tactics far, far less damaging than Nico are revealing rather more about themselves and their lack of balance / self awareness than anything else.
Finally - the most graceless and classless act you will ever see in F1 isn't going to be a poor comment in an interview or driving slowly. It's deliberately crashing into anyone, particularly your team mate.
But you will never have seen me calling for Nico's sacking or personally attacking him. Poor but understandable tactics.
I think it's hilariously naive to think any of these guys are not ruthless and arrogant enough to do dubious things to climb to the top (or even remain in the sport).
Evangelion said:
Does this mean Hamilton has to carry the number 0 next year?
No, because numbers aren't like that any more and drivers are expected to carry the same number for their whole career now, so he'll carry 44 as usual. I believe that the reigning WDC has the option to wear 1 if they choose, or to continue to use 'their' number.
ClockworkCupcake said:
Evangelion said:
Does this mean Hamilton has to carry the number 0 next year?
No, because numbers aren't like that any more and drivers are expected to carry the same number for their whole career now, so he'll carry 44 as usual. I believe that the reigning WDC has the option to wear 1 if they choose, or to continue to use 'their' number.
Anyway 0 was only used for a retired wdc car, hamilton has his own car...
Escapegoat said:
anonymous said:
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But you're simply projecting. He is VERY well liked by the general public. At any event, social media thing, etc - it is Hamilton who pulls in the masses. Go ask Bernie.However, he is disliked greatly by a significant and vocal group of F1 fans who think "he isn't one of us, he doesn't walk/talk/dress/date/sing like an F1 driver should". Which is correct, he's not and he doesn't.
Of the people I know, support for him varies, most agree that he's a good driver , but there again , most seem to think he's a bit odd, and difficult to relate too . Such is life I suppose.
monamimate said:
Evangelion said:
The following is a list of all the drivers who have won the WDC then not stayed in F1 the following year to defend it. (One had a good excuse.)
Mike Hawthorn (1958)
Jochen Rindt (1970)
Nigel Mansell (1992)
Alain Prost (1993)
Nico Rosberg (2016)
In other words, the other 28 all did.
Does this mean Hamilton has to carry the number 0 next year?
Jackie Stewart (1973)?Mike Hawthorn (1958)
Jochen Rindt (1970)
Nigel Mansell (1992)
Alain Prost (1993)
Nico Rosberg (2016)
In other words, the other 28 all did.
Does this mean Hamilton has to carry the number 0 next year?
(F1 history is so much more interesting than all this modern rubbish.)
anonymous said:
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From what I've seen; like me, he says Rosberg is a great driver worthy of respect... but no legend of the sport. Many on here assume that if you think Hamilton is a great driver then you automatically hate the rest of the field, including Rosberg. I've said since the Schuey Merc days that Rosberg is proving to be a VERY fast driver. And he has gone on to prove that year in year out; does that mean he's done nothing dubious? (Monaco quali' being he classic for me) - no. Does that mean there's a lot of hypocrisy on here stating Rosberg is the epitome of class? yes!It isn't one or the other... but many feeble minds on here, need it that way to converse... it seems.
My take on Rosberg and Hamilton.
Rosberg seems like a nice guy but unfortunately he's proven to be a cheat, deploying dirty tactics to try to get one on over on a more talented teammate. If it wasn't for the cheating I would have been willing him on throughout this last season.
Hamilton seems to be a bit of a dick at times both professionally and outside the sport but is undoubedtly one of the great talents of F1, past or present. I'm not a fan but won't deny he's up there with the very best.
I am surprised at people saying Hamilton is unpopular.
You might not like him and no doubt the cagoule wearing, adenoidal F1 bores eating egg sandwiches from their little Tupperware boxes will despise him, but he is popular both with motorsport fans generally and with the public away from racing.
Like it or not, he's also what the F1 'business' needs in its current, ultra-commercial guise.
Rosberg seems like a nice guy but unfortunately he's proven to be a cheat, deploying dirty tactics to try to get one on over on a more talented teammate. If it wasn't for the cheating I would have been willing him on throughout this last season.
Hamilton seems to be a bit of a dick at times both professionally and outside the sport but is undoubedtly one of the great talents of F1, past or present. I'm not a fan but won't deny he's up there with the very best.
I am surprised at people saying Hamilton is unpopular.
You might not like him and no doubt the cagoule wearing, adenoidal F1 bores eating egg sandwiches from their little Tupperware boxes will despise him, but he is popular both with motorsport fans generally and with the public away from racing.
Like it or not, he's also what the F1 'business' needs in its current, ultra-commercial guise.
Let me see if I can lift up the tone of the thread. Highlights of Nico Rosberg. Some mine, some from the F1 page.
2002; Spectacular single-seater debut, winning Formula ADAC Championship with nine victories. It earns him a Williams test and at 17 he becomes the youngest person to drive a Formula One car.
2003; Graduates to Formula Three Euro Series with Team Rosberg. Claims one race win and finishes eighth overall in the championship.
2004;Takes a further three victories in the Formula Three Euro Series.
2005; Wins the inaugural GP2 championship, the replacement series for Formula 3000. Signed as Williams test driver in May, before winning race contract with the team for 2006.
2006; Paired with Mark Webber at Williams. Announces his arrival to the sport with a fastest lap in his first race; when the cars were still physically very demanding to drive.
2007; Stayed with Williams. More fastest laps and consistency followed. Best finish of 4th place in the Brazilian GP.
2008; Gets on the podium for the first time at the opening race of the season with his childhood friend/rival.
2008; A frenetic Singapore Grand Prix saw Rosberg finish second despite receiving a drive-through penalty.
2009; A best of 4th place finish starting 15th at the German GP.
Damn. That’s a fecking good looking car that!
Announces departure to the newly re-formed Mercedes works team.
2010; Paired with one Michael Schumacher. Drives the W01 to three podiums. Scores twice the points of his team mate. Best drives probably at Silverstone (starting 5th, finished 3rd).
Spa (started 14th, finished 6th)
2011; Showed great qualifying pace but the car simply lacked race pace. Best drive probably at Suzuka. Started 23rd to score a point (10th).
2012; Gets his maiden F1 pole in China. Dominates the race, winning against the McLarens. Gaining the honour of giving the works Mercedes outfit its first win since the 1955 Italian GP.
2nd place at Monaco finishing 0.6s behind his old team mate Mark Webber.
2013; Paired with Lewis Hamilton. Two yellow helmets in a team.
Misses out on early podium in Malaysia because of team orders, but then takes three consecutive poles and is rewarded with well-deserved Monaco victory for Mercedes. Wins again in Great Britain en route to sixth overall in the standings.
2014; Dominates Mercedes team mate Hamilton in qualifying, securing 11 poles in the all-conquering F1 W05. With five wins and 10 further podiums, takes title race down to the wire, but ultimately cannot quite match his rival's race form, finishing a strong second overall.
2015; Finishes runner-up to Mercedes team mate Hamilton for the second year in succession, though this time the fight is not as close, despite six wins and seven poles. A late-season surge in form, however, hints at a closer contest in prospect for 2016.
2016;Starts 2016 as he left off the year before, winning the first four races to put himself in charge of the drivers’ standings. Hamilton stages a fight back mid-season, but another flurry of wins in Belgium, Italy, Singapore and Japan put Rosberg back in the driving seat, with the German doing enough in the final races to see off another furious Hamilton surge. Childhood ambition realised, he announces his retirement less than a week after being crowned world champion.
On top of the world.
“We did it! We did it!” ...I liked that.
What a relief.
Selfie.
Can’t take this away from him now.
Looking back at it, he’s had an enviable career. Comes into the sport in a whirlwind of a fastest lap. Goes out in a cloud of tyre smoke. Who is he, some kind of rock star?
Goodbye Nico.
2002; Spectacular single-seater debut, winning Formula ADAC Championship with nine victories. It earns him a Williams test and at 17 he becomes the youngest person to drive a Formula One car.
2003; Graduates to Formula Three Euro Series with Team Rosberg. Claims one race win and finishes eighth overall in the championship.
2004;Takes a further three victories in the Formula Three Euro Series.
2005; Wins the inaugural GP2 championship, the replacement series for Formula 3000. Signed as Williams test driver in May, before winning race contract with the team for 2006.
2006; Paired with Mark Webber at Williams. Announces his arrival to the sport with a fastest lap in his first race; when the cars were still physically very demanding to drive.
2007; Stayed with Williams. More fastest laps and consistency followed. Best finish of 4th place in the Brazilian GP.
2008; Gets on the podium for the first time at the opening race of the season with his childhood friend/rival.
2008; A frenetic Singapore Grand Prix saw Rosberg finish second despite receiving a drive-through penalty.
2009; A best of 4th place finish starting 15th at the German GP.
Damn. That’s a fecking good looking car that!
Announces departure to the newly re-formed Mercedes works team.
2010; Paired with one Michael Schumacher. Drives the W01 to three podiums. Scores twice the points of his team mate. Best drives probably at Silverstone (starting 5th, finished 3rd).
Spa (started 14th, finished 6th)
2011; Showed great qualifying pace but the car simply lacked race pace. Best drive probably at Suzuka. Started 23rd to score a point (10th).
2012; Gets his maiden F1 pole in China. Dominates the race, winning against the McLarens. Gaining the honour of giving the works Mercedes outfit its first win since the 1955 Italian GP.
2nd place at Monaco finishing 0.6s behind his old team mate Mark Webber.
2013; Paired with Lewis Hamilton. Two yellow helmets in a team.
Misses out on early podium in Malaysia because of team orders, but then takes three consecutive poles and is rewarded with well-deserved Monaco victory for Mercedes. Wins again in Great Britain en route to sixth overall in the standings.
2014; Dominates Mercedes team mate Hamilton in qualifying, securing 11 poles in the all-conquering F1 W05. With five wins and 10 further podiums, takes title race down to the wire, but ultimately cannot quite match his rival's race form, finishing a strong second overall.
2015; Finishes runner-up to Mercedes team mate Hamilton for the second year in succession, though this time the fight is not as close, despite six wins and seven poles. A late-season surge in form, however, hints at a closer contest in prospect for 2016.
2016;Starts 2016 as he left off the year before, winning the first four races to put himself in charge of the drivers’ standings. Hamilton stages a fight back mid-season, but another flurry of wins in Belgium, Italy, Singapore and Japan put Rosberg back in the driving seat, with the German doing enough in the final races to see off another furious Hamilton surge. Childhood ambition realised, he announces his retirement less than a week after being crowned world champion.
On top of the world.
“We did it! We did it!” ...I liked that.
What a relief.
Selfie.
Can’t take this away from him now.
Looking back at it, he’s had an enviable career. Comes into the sport in a whirlwind of a fastest lap. Goes out in a cloud of tyre smoke. Who is he, some kind of rock star?
Goodbye Nico.
Here's a link to a thread commenting on Nico's drive following his first F1 race, for Williams in 2006.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=251...
Interesting for the negative Button comments as well as the positive Rosberg ones.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=251...
Interesting for the negative Button comments as well as the positive Rosberg ones.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/347687/rosberg-...
Disappointed with these comments and is the reason my initial thoughts were soft.
Reminds me of something my brother taught me growing up. We had a large table in our home perfectly sized for ping-pong, me and my younger fashioned a net from some leftover flooring and turned to my older brother to teach us the rules. My little bro wasn't really old enough to get the skill nuances of the game like spin etc. so it was my older brother I'd play competitively. He'd win and I'd get mad, but he'd always say "Best of three?" after crushing me regardless of what he had on. Eventually, I got good enough to beat my him and instinctively knew I had to extend him the same courtesy. It's the done thing; the sporting thing. You don't run away after the taste of victory, you man up and you invite your competitor to duel again.
Disappointed with these comments and is the reason my initial thoughts were soft.
Reminds me of something my brother taught me growing up. We had a large table in our home perfectly sized for ping-pong, me and my younger fashioned a net from some leftover flooring and turned to my older brother to teach us the rules. My little bro wasn't really old enough to get the skill nuances of the game like spin etc. so it was my older brother I'd play competitively. He'd win and I'd get mad, but he'd always say "Best of three?" after crushing me regardless of what he had on. Eventually, I got good enough to beat my him and instinctively knew I had to extend him the same courtesy. It's the done thing; the sporting thing. You don't run away after the taste of victory, you man up and you invite your competitor to duel again.
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