Nico Rosberg retires from F1
Discussion
LDN said:
Vaud said:
Blue62 said:
Indeed, it's rare to find a winner who isn't a cock. Button and maybe Rosberg in recent times, Nico more for his actions and words over the last couple of months.
Massa? (when he was winning of course). Brazil 2008 was a class act. Ditto Barrichello?sparta6 said:
Yes, although Max definitely has a sharper sense of humour than Hamilton, and doesn't take himself too seriously. Still destined for great success.
Give him time, he reminds me a bit of Hamilton in 2007. If the Red Bull's as good next year as promised and a championships on the line, then I think we will see Max and Ricciardo loose their sense of humour very quickly. Remember when Vettel used to be Mr smiley nice guy.
aeropilot said:
LDN said:
Vaud said:
Blue62 said:
Indeed, it's rare to find a winner who isn't a cock. Button and maybe Rosberg in recent times, Nico more for his actions and words over the last couple of months.
Massa? (when he was winning of course). Brazil 2008 was a class act. Ditto Barrichello?Paul671 said:
Give him time, he reminds me a bit of Hamilton in 2007.
If the Red Bull's as good next year as promised and a championships on the line, then I think we will see Max and Ricciardo loose their sense of humour very quickly. Remember when Vettel used to be Mr smiley nice guy.
He's 19. I think most of us were prone to acting like a cock at 19 If the Red Bull's as good next year as promised and a championships on the line, then I think we will see Max and Ricciardo loose their sense of humour very quickly. Remember when Vettel used to be Mr smiley nice guy.
In the car, where he earns his salary, he's deadly focused. It's an exciting mix.Vettel was Mr Smiley because he was winning most of the time
NJK44 said:
That's down to opinion.
I myself, would prefer to travel the world as Lewis does, banging any model he likes and owning houses in Cali, Colorado, etc etc.
I find that much more appealing than settling down with wife and kid.
Matter of opinion though.
All the money, houses and women in the world is still a long way short of the fulfilment and contentment that a loving family brings.I myself, would prefer to travel the world as Lewis does, banging any model he likes and owning houses in Cali, Colorado, etc etc.
I find that much more appealing than settling down with wife and kid.
Matter of opinion though.
r11co said:
Says the person who wasn't actually there. 
The karters can pick faults in the details of the story, but the perception of the people there was that the rich kid with the works backing won.
Kind of like the perception that the 'kid from Monaco with the ex WDC dad' won. Equally meaningless of course, but I tell the story to add some perspective.
Given your earlier posts railing against him turning up with a pit crew, then about him having a "state of the art" kart, I think your words "with the works backing" might explain the pit crew and the state of the art kart. "Works backing" at that age might suggest "talent".The karters can pick faults in the details of the story, but the perception of the people there was that the rich kid with the works backing won.
Kind of like the perception that the 'kid from Monaco with the ex WDC dad' won. Equally meaningless of course, but I tell the story to add some perspective.
Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 18:36
BaronVonVaderham said:
Completely agree. He's lucked into a title by virtue of pushing himself to breaking point and only just succeeded as Hamilton had such a bad year due to reliability.
He knows that Lewis will return in 2017 fully focused and doesn't stand a chance / just hasn't got it in him to defend his title, and probably thinks that getting trounced by Hamilton yet again would devalue his title/reputation even further.
In a word, weak.
Bye bye Britney
Has there ever been a less popular WDC?
Please explain how the results in Baku and Singapore were due to reliability? Or the starts in Monza and Japan?He knows that Lewis will return in 2017 fully focused and doesn't stand a chance / just hasn't got it in him to defend his title, and probably thinks that getting trounced by Hamilton yet again would devalue his title/reputation even further.
In a word, weak.
Bye bye Britney
Has there ever been a less popular WDC?
Less popular WDC? In this country, I'd suggest Michael Schumacher in 1994. Or possibly Vettel, any of his championships.
And before I get flamed as a Nico Rosberg fan: I think Lewis Hamilton is phenomenally talented. I don't mind what he does off-track It's not my cup of tea, but he is a young-ish guy at the top of his game and is entitled to enjoy the rewards. However, Nico Rosberg has steadily grown on me (probably starting at Abu Dhabi in 2014), and I think he did a phenomenal job this season. Very few people ever know what it's like to compete at elite level, and the sacrifices it involves. Why is Rosberg being criticised for knowing his own mind?
Europa1 said:
r11co said:
Says the person who wasn't actually there.
The karters can pick faults in the details of the story, but the perception of the people there was that the rich kid with the works backing won.
Kind of like the perception that the 'kid from Monaco with the ex WDC dad' won. Equally meaningless of course, but I tell the story to add some perspective.
Given your earlier posts railing against him turning up with a pit crew, then about him having a "state of the art" kart, I think your words "with the works backing" might explain the pit crew and the state of the art kart. "Works backing" at that age might suggest "talent".The karters can pick faults in the details of the story, but the perception of the people there was that the rich kid with the works backing won.
Kind of like the perception that the 'kid from Monaco with the ex WDC dad' won. Equally meaningless of course, but I tell the story to add some perspective.
Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 18:36
LDN said:
Europa1 said:
r11co said:
Says the person who wasn't actually there.
The karters can pick faults in the details of the story, but the perception of the people there was that the rich kid with the works backing won.
Kind of like the perception that the 'kid from Monaco with the ex WDC dad' won. Equally meaningless of course, but I tell the story to add some perspective.
Given your earlier posts railing against him turning up with a pit crew, then about him having a "state of the art" kart, I think your words "with the works backing" might explain the pit crew and the state of the art kart. "Works backing" at that age might suggest "talent".The karters can pick faults in the details of the story, but the perception of the people there was that the rich kid with the works backing won.
Kind of like the perception that the 'kid from Monaco with the ex WDC dad' won. Equally meaningless of course, but I tell the story to add some perspective.
Edited by r11co on Friday 2nd December 18:36
LDN said:
Whilst not entirely relevant; out of interest, how can one be a WDC in spirit? Isn't it the numbers on the board at the end of the day?
Fair question. For me in 2008 Lewis was WDC fair and square. Awesome driver, I think he is outstanding. The points mean everything, as they did this year, it is the only true metric for WDC.My words were clumsy - it was more of a laconic view for the passion and emotion that F1 can sometimes bring - for me went to Massa.
Maybe it is better phrased as: Lewis as WDC in 2008, Massa as the symbolism of F1 passion in that year. My memory is of Brazil and the dignity of the win and at the same time, the loss.
Does that make more sense?
Vaud said:
LDN said:
Whilst not entirely relevant; out of interest, how can one be a WDC in spirit? Isn't it the numbers on the board at the end of the day?
Fair question. For me in 2008 Lewis was WDC fair and square. Awesome driver, I think he is outstanding. The points mean everything, as they did this year, it is the only true metric for WDC.My words were clumsy - it was more of a laconic view for the passion and emotion that F1 can sometimes bring - for me went to Massa.
Maybe it is better phrased as: Lewis as WDC in 2008, Massa as the symbolism of F1 passion in that year. My memory is of Brazil and the dignity of the win and at the same time, the loss.
Does that make more sense?
TazLondon said:
NJK44 said:
That's down to opinion.
I myself, would prefer to travel the world as Lewis does, banging any model he likes and owning houses in Cali, Colorado, etc etc.
I find that much more appealing than settling down with wife and kid.
Matter of opinion though.
All the money, houses and women in the world is still a long way short of the fulfilment and contentment that a loving family brings.I myself, would prefer to travel the world as Lewis does, banging any model he likes and owning houses in Cali, Colorado, etc etc.
I find that much more appealing than settling down with wife and kid.
Matter of opinion though.
LDN said:
Oh god; don't resurrect his nonsense. It's the rantings of a sad individual, convinced Hamilton was given a kart with afterburners strapped on
Nope. It was just a response to the fake narrative that Nico had it all handed to him on a plate while Lewis faced daily battles to make it to the top. Both talented and both supported as a result. Lewis stopped being the underdog very very early in his career and some of us were there to know that.That is all, but it seems those late to the Hamilton party know more about it than me, so knock yourselves out guys. Like your idol, you'll be blaming the weather/god/pitcrew/Mercedes/Max when he has his next pratfall. Who knows - he might even resort to playing the race card again.
Edited by r11co on Saturday 3rd December 21:31
see my next post...r11co said:
LDN said:
Oh god; don't resurrect his nonsense. It's the rantings of a sad individual, convinced Hamilton was given a kart with afterburners strapped on
Nope. It was just a response to the fake narrative that Nico had it all handed to him on a plate while Lewis faced daily battles to make it to the top. Both talented and both supported as a result. Lewis stopped being the underdog very very early in his career and some of us were there to know that.That is all, but it seems those late to the Hamilton party know more about it than me, so knock yourselves out guys. Like your idol, you'll be blaming the weather/god/pitcrew/Mercedes/Max when he has his next pratfall.
The original point was as simple as: Nico was born into it. It's a fact. Lewis had to prove himself; and keep proving himself... did you know McLaren did consider dropping him at one stage? He had to perform week in, week out and some of the old footage of his karting days makes for some great viewing. Nico had his own team!
You're assertion that Hamilton had a 'state of the art' kart shows how little you know...
That is all.
r11co said:
LDN said:
You were there?
At Larkhall Kart Track on a day Lewis Hamilton turned up? Yup, and by my reckoning you weren't, so anything you've got to say about it is purely speculative.Read the rest of my post also
r11co said:
LDN said:
Oh god; don't resurrect his nonsense. It's the rantings of a sad individual, convinced Hamilton was given a kart with afterburners strapped on
Nope. It was just a response to the fake narrative that Nico had it all handed to him on a plate while Lewis faced daily battles to make it to the top. Both talented and both supported as a result. Lewis stopped being the underdog very very early in his career and some of us were there to know that.That is all, but it seems those late to the Hamilton party know more about it than me, so knock yourselves out guys. Like your idol, you'll be blaming the weather/god/pitcrew/Mercedes/Max when he has his next pratfall.
LDN said:
Haha; he beat you / your kid and you've been bitter ever since. I get it.
No. I get.I get that because I don't exactly share your idolatry for Lewis Hamilton you have to discredit me and speculate wildly about why I don't share your unconditional love for the guy.
Great straw-man argument up there BTW.
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