Nico Rosberg retires from F1
Discussion
r11co said:
LDN said:
Good ol' Wiki'...
Hamilton drove for Martin Hines's Zip Young Guns Karting Team.[35] From the Cadet ranks, he progressed through to Junior Yamaha (1997) and Ron Dennis actually called him in 1998 after Hamilton won an additional Super One series and his second British championship.[24] Dennis delivered on his promise and signed Hamilton to the McLaren driver development program. This contract included an option of a future F1 seat, which would eventually make Hamilton the youngest ever driver to secure a contract which later resulted in an F1 drive.
A special talent indeed.
Yup, and not one that had to scrape-and-scrap at every level to get where he was. By the time he and Nico were competing they had the same machinery and backing, so the underdog-v-priveleged kid sHamilton drove for Martin Hines's Zip Young Guns Karting Team.[35] From the Cadet ranks, he progressed through to Junior Yamaha (1997) and Ron Dennis actually called him in 1998 after Hamilton won an additional Super One series and his second British championship.[24] Dennis delivered on his promise and signed Hamilton to the McLaren driver development program. This contract included an option of a future F1 seat, which would eventually make Hamilton the youngest ever driver to secure a contract which later resulted in an F1 drive.
A special talent indeed.
t is exactly that.Sorry to have to burst your bubble, but if Lewis did have to face any financial hardship in his climb up the ladder it didn't last very long at all.
Edited by r11co on Saturday 3rd December 22:36
no bubble burst! They did what they had to at the beginning and then... talent did the rest 
You're refusal to acknowledge is brilliant. I tried
r11co said:
Yup, and not one that had to scrape-and-scrap at every level to get where he was. By the time he and Nico were competing they had the same machinery and backing, so the underdog-v-priveleged kid st is exactly that.
Sorry to have to burst your bubble, but if Lewis did have to face any financial hardship in his climb up the ladder it didn't last very long at all.
PS. For someone who claims to be such a devoted fan of the guy it is interesting that you only now seem to be availing yourself of the details of his early career via google.
Your editing makes this hard... I never claimed to be a devoted fan. That was your assumption t is exactly that.Sorry to have to burst your bubble, but if Lewis did have to face any financial hardship in his climb up the ladder it didn't last very long at all.
PS. For someone who claims to be such a devoted fan of the guy it is interesting that you only now seem to be availing yourself of the details of his early career via google.
Edited by r11co on Saturday 3rd December 22:39
Keep up!
LDN said:
You're refusal to acknowledge is brilliant.
Refusal to acknowledge what? That Hamilton has re-written the narrative of his early career to make out that he spent years as the underdog against the son of a former WDC, struggling to make ends meet while the silver-spoon boy got carted around in a sedan chair?I've never said he didn't get where he was on talent. Quite the opposite - his talent accelarated his rise up the ranks and ensured he got the best machinery and support pretty much from day one, which was my point all along.
Sheesh!
I've never questioned Lewis Hamilton's talent (read back my posts if you don't believe that). It's his lack of sincerity, maturity and self-awareness that leaves something to be desired.
Edited by r11co on Saturday 3rd December 22:51
r11co said:
LDN said:
You're refusal to acknowledge is brilliant.
Refusal to acknowledge what? That Hamilton has re-written the narrative of his early career to make out that he spent years as the underdog against the son of a former WDC, struggling to make ends meet while the silver-spoon boy got carted around in a sedan chair?I've never said he didn't get where he was on talent. Quite the opposite - his talent accelarated his rise up the ranks and ensured he got the best machinery and support pretty much from day one, which was my point all along.
Sheesh!
Keep digging this hole; you'll need a snorkel soon.
LDN said:
What are you on about? He's only ever spoken of the early days - which were VERY different to the early days Rosberg enjoyed; son of a former world champion. What's hard to understand?
That it had f-all to do with their relative career paths once Lewis was established. Both he and Nico had talent and equal backing when it mattered (plus Anthony Hamilton was never a pauper anyway).The ony difference it might have made was that former WDC father maybe had a bit more perspective having been there before and thought it wise to ensure son had an education beyond that learned behind a steering wheel.
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
LDN said:
PorkInsider said:
TazLondon said:
All the money, houses and women in the world is still a long way short of the fulfilment and contentment that a loving family brings.
What a fking crock of st.By definition, you're demeaning anyone who doesn't have a family; either by choice or because they can't.
People like you really f
k me off. You're like the politicians bking on about 'hard working families'.It's surely possible to have both the grit for racing; and the family but I suppose the balance would never be easy.
I also think it's a tad demeaning to assume everyone will want the same thing. But in this case, I think Hamilton has said he would like; to one day have the wife and kids; maybe he's just not ready yet. Who knows.
I think NR looked comfortable, I said LH looked lonely.
Still stand by that and would add that LH is a far more tormented individual. LH lives in the Twitter World and alike. NR less so IMHO
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
swisstoni said:
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
LDN said:
PorkInsider said:
TazLondon said:
All the money, houses and women in the world is still a long way short of the fulfilment and contentment that a loving family brings.
What a fking crock of st.By definition, you're demeaning anyone who doesn't have a family; either by choice or because they can't.
People like you really f
k me off. You're like the politicians bking on about 'hard working families'.It's surely possible to have both the grit for racing; and the family but I suppose the balance would never be easy.
I also think it's a tad demeaning to assume everyone will want the same thing. But in this case, I think Hamilton has said he would like; to one day have the wife and kids; maybe he's just not ready yet. Who knows.
I think NR looked comfortable, I said LH looked lonely.
Still stand by that and would add that LH is a far more tormented individual. LH lives in the Twitter World and alike. NR less so IMHO
You should hear what I think of you from just a few posts on PH.
"You know Paddy, analysing a top F1 driver is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You've got to size them up. Make sure you have all the angles covered. And then slide in with a decisive move that no-one will forget."
paua said:
Time to change ends & get new handbags chaps - these ones are showing signs of wear.
Indeed...we are 24 hours and 10 pages on from when I last posted and the same pointless argument is being had...can we just delete the thread...it's gonna go on until the new season at this rate Some people like Lewis, some people don't..big argument, lots of handbags and going around in circles...
37chevy said:
Indeed...we are 24 hours and 10 pages on from when I last posted and the same pointless argument is being had...can we just delete the thread...it's gonna go on until the new season at this rate
Some people like Lewis, some people don't..big argument, lots of handbags and going around in circles...
Some people like Lewis, some people don't..big argument, lots of handbags and going around in circles...
The irony.
Trabi601 said:
37chevy said:
Indeed...we are 24 hours and 10 pages on from when I last posted and the same pointless argument is being had...can we just delete the thread...it's gonna go on until the new season at this rate
Some people like Lewis, some people don't..big argument, lots of handbags and going around in circles...
Some people like Lewis, some people don't..big argument, lots of handbags and going around in circles...
The irony.
Dr Z said:
Let me see if I can lift up the tone of the thread. Highlights of Nico Rosberg. Some mine, some from the F1 page.
2002; Spectacular single-seater debut, winning Formula ADAC Championship with nine victories. It earns him a Williams test and at 17 he becomes the youngest person to drive a Formula One car.
2003; Graduates to Formula Three Euro Series with Team Rosberg. Claims one race win and finishes eighth overall in the championship.
2004;Takes a further three victories in the Formula Three Euro Series.
2005; Wins the inaugural GP2 championship, the replacement series for Formula 3000. Signed as Williams test driver in May, before winning race contract with the team for 2006.
2006; Paired with Mark Webber at Williams. Announces his arrival to the sport with a fastest lap in his first race; when the cars were still physically very demanding to drive.
2007; Stayed with Williams. More fastest laps and consistency followed. Best finish of 4th place in the Brazilian GP.
2008; Gets on the podium for the first time at the opening race of the season with his childhood friend/rival.
2008; A frenetic Singapore Grand Prix saw Rosberg finish second despite receiving a drive-through penalty.
2009; A best of 4th place finish starting 15th at the German GP.
Damn. That’s a fecking good looking car that!
Announces departure to the newly re-formed Mercedes works team.
2010; Paired with one Michael Schumacher. Drives the W01 to three podiums. Scores twice the points of his team mate. Best drives probably at Silverstone (starting 5th, finished 3rd).
Spa (started 14th, finished 6th)
2011; Showed great qualifying pace but the car simply lacked race pace. Best drive probably at Suzuka. Started 23rd to score a point (10th).
2012; Gets his maiden F1 pole in China. Dominates the race, winning against the McLarens. Gaining the honour of giving the works Mercedes outfit its first win since the 1955 Italian GP.
2nd place at Monaco finishing 0.6s behind his old team mate Mark Webber.
2013; Paired with Lewis Hamilton. Two yellow helmets in a team.
Misses out on early podium in Malaysia because of team orders, but then takes three consecutive poles and is rewarded with well-deserved Monaco victory for Mercedes. Wins again in Great Britain en route to sixth overall in the standings.
2014; Dominates Mercedes team mate Hamilton in qualifying, securing 11 poles in the all-conquering F1 W05. With five wins and 10 further podiums, takes title race down to the wire, but ultimately cannot quite match his rival's race form, finishing a strong second overall.
2015; Finishes runner-up to Mercedes team mate Hamilton for the second year in succession, though this time the fight is not as close, despite six wins and seven poles. A late-season surge in form, however, hints at a closer contest in prospect for 2016.
2016;Starts 2016 as he left off the year before, winning the first four races to put himself in charge of the drivers’ standings. Hamilton stages a fight back mid-season, but another flurry of wins in Belgium, Italy, Singapore and Japan put Rosberg back in the driving seat, with the German doing enough in the final races to see off another furious Hamilton surge. Childhood ambition realised, he announces his retirement less than a week after being crowned world champion.
On top of the world.
“We did it! We did it!” ...I liked that.
What a relief.
Selfie.
Can’t take this away from him now.
Looking back at it, he’s had an enviable career. Comes into the sport in a whirlwind of a fastest lap. Goes out in a cloud of tyre smoke. Who is he, some kind of rock star?
Goodbye Nico.
Y'know, it's like a phobia of mine when people post entire epic posts just to add a "+1" on the end, but I'm happy to break it today. Honestly, well done that guy in whatever he does next. Back in 2014 I expected HAM to crush him in quali, but the opposite happend and it was only Hamiltons superior racecraft that kept him ahead. what great exploitation of exceptional talent!2002; Spectacular single-seater debut, winning Formula ADAC Championship with nine victories. It earns him a Williams test and at 17 he becomes the youngest person to drive a Formula One car.
2003; Graduates to Formula Three Euro Series with Team Rosberg. Claims one race win and finishes eighth overall in the championship.
2004;Takes a further three victories in the Formula Three Euro Series.
2005; Wins the inaugural GP2 championship, the replacement series for Formula 3000. Signed as Williams test driver in May, before winning race contract with the team for 2006.
2006; Paired with Mark Webber at Williams. Announces his arrival to the sport with a fastest lap in his first race; when the cars were still physically very demanding to drive.
2007; Stayed with Williams. More fastest laps and consistency followed. Best finish of 4th place in the Brazilian GP.
2008; Gets on the podium for the first time at the opening race of the season with his childhood friend/rival.
2008; A frenetic Singapore Grand Prix saw Rosberg finish second despite receiving a drive-through penalty.
2009; A best of 4th place finish starting 15th at the German GP.
Damn. That’s a fecking good looking car that!
Announces departure to the newly re-formed Mercedes works team.
2010; Paired with one Michael Schumacher. Drives the W01 to three podiums. Scores twice the points of his team mate. Best drives probably at Silverstone (starting 5th, finished 3rd).
Spa (started 14th, finished 6th)
2011; Showed great qualifying pace but the car simply lacked race pace. Best drive probably at Suzuka. Started 23rd to score a point (10th).
2012; Gets his maiden F1 pole in China. Dominates the race, winning against the McLarens. Gaining the honour of giving the works Mercedes outfit its first win since the 1955 Italian GP.
2nd place at Monaco finishing 0.6s behind his old team mate Mark Webber.
2013; Paired with Lewis Hamilton. Two yellow helmets in a team.
Misses out on early podium in Malaysia because of team orders, but then takes three consecutive poles and is rewarded with well-deserved Monaco victory for Mercedes. Wins again in Great Britain en route to sixth overall in the standings.
2014; Dominates Mercedes team mate Hamilton in qualifying, securing 11 poles in the all-conquering F1 W05. With five wins and 10 further podiums, takes title race down to the wire, but ultimately cannot quite match his rival's race form, finishing a strong second overall.
2015; Finishes runner-up to Mercedes team mate Hamilton for the second year in succession, though this time the fight is not as close, despite six wins and seven poles. A late-season surge in form, however, hints at a closer contest in prospect for 2016.
2016;Starts 2016 as he left off the year before, winning the first four races to put himself in charge of the drivers’ standings. Hamilton stages a fight back mid-season, but another flurry of wins in Belgium, Italy, Singapore and Japan put Rosberg back in the driving seat, with the German doing enough in the final races to see off another furious Hamilton surge. Childhood ambition realised, he announces his retirement less than a week after being crowned world champion.
On top of the world.
“We did it! We did it!” ...I liked that.
What a relief.
Selfie.
Can’t take this away from him now.
Looking back at it, he’s had an enviable career. Comes into the sport in a whirlwind of a fastest lap. Goes out in a cloud of tyre smoke. Who is he, some kind of rock star?
Goodbye Nico.
r11co said:
LDN said:
What are you on about? He's only ever spoken of the early days - which were VERY different to the early days Rosberg enjoyed; son of a former world champion. What's hard to understand?
That it had f-all to do with their relative career paths once Lewis was established. Both he and Nico had talent and equal backing when it mattered (plus Anthony Hamilton was never a pauper anyway).The ony difference it might have made was that former WDC father maybe had a bit more perspective having been there before and thought it wise to ensure son had an education beyond that learned behind a steering wheel.
t for everyone else to see these back and forth's. But, wow, you come across very bitter and a tad twisted. You've been proven wrong on every count and still resort to talking on things like drivers fathers and the 'education' they've afforded their sons. Simply bizarre! Speaks volumes on where you're at. LDN said:
Vaud said:
LDN said:
. Maybe it's the fake yank accent that he used to employ, what did it!
Given his home is in the US (Colorado?) I think he can be forgiven. I've lived in the US and have a horrible mid-atlantic accent at times...Anyway, yes; I was trying to give a little humour to an otherwise stale post!
Can i just say it is really sad and pathetic that on a thread about Rosberg's retirement - a mature decision made by someone who clearly knows what they want form life and are mature enough to make a difficult decision - we've yet again descended into bickering about Hamilton.
It;'s really pathetic from all of you to be honest, and quite boring.
No wonder he quit if he even got wind of half of what goes on in places like this.
It;'s really pathetic from all of you to be honest, and quite boring.
No wonder he quit if he even got wind of half of what goes on in places like this.
vonuber said:
Can i just say it is really sad and pathetic that on a thread about Rosberg's retirement - a mature decision made by someone who clearly knows what they want form life and are mature enough to make a difficult decision - we've yet again descended into bickering about Hamilton.
It;'s really pathetic from all of you to be honest, and quite boring.
No wonder he quit if he even got wind of half of what goes on in places like this.
+1It;'s really pathetic from all of you to be honest, and quite boring.
No wonder he quit if he even got wind of half of what goes on in places like this.
wibble cb said:
Weird, I have lived in Canada since 2005, I still sound like a 50's BBC announcer, all Queens English etc, I refuse to say pants/cellphone/trunk etc....... Yet my brother who only lived here for 3-4 yrs sounds transatlantic.
Yeah, sick dude. I gotta say the keeping my Brit accent all the time I was in the US of A means that access to hot bhes was a slam dunk. No st dude, the accent was a home run every night. ETA: well maybe the tiniest smattering of an accent could have crept in.
Edited by SeeFive on Sunday 4th December 00:30
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