Who will replace Nico
Poll: Who will replace Nico
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Greeny said:
JNW1 said:
You may well be right but why do you think that?!
I live near Oxford, so close to most F1 teams, therefore not surprising that I know guys that work for some of them.cjm said:
I'm not sure if it has been suggested before? Do you think Merc would rather Nico hadn't won the championship and continued racing and chasing Lewis?
I have a suspicion he was going to quit this year regardless. The other side of the garage must have been awful to deal with.MartynVRS said:
housen said:
lauda is p1ssed off with nico
being reported
I saw that and I don't see why. It's not exactly short notice when they have a few months to go until the next season starts. He could have left his retirement decision much later and really left them in it.being reported
And ignore Benson on BBC. It's all gossip, even that Rossi piece. If any of us were asked would be interested we'd say yes.
If NR had informed Merc of his decision to leave if he won the WDC then Lauda has no reason to be quite so irritated other than losing a settled driver.
If NR kept it to himself then my feeling is that it is something of a betrayal. The drives are settled. They no longer have pick of the litter. They are left to scrabble about at the bottom of the barrel or else pay a fortune to end the contract of a top driver.
If, as suggested on here by many, NR is a gentleman, then it must be option one as to cut and run without notifying anyone in time for a suitable replacement is hardly repayment for the supply of a car to win the WDC. However, if so, then why the chastisement of LH for trying to bring the WDC for 2017 to Merc?
I hope it is not the second option, but if so, I fully sympathise with Lauda. I'd feel betrayed if I was in the team.
Edited by Derek Smith on Wednesday 7th December 20:22
Vocal Minority said:
Derek Smith said:
Vocal Minority said:
The fact is people want it to have been fixed.
So no amount of convincing will stop that. Just need to let them to get on with it,
So you don't what discussions and thoughts on what went on? Are you an Ecclestone clone?So no amount of convincing will stop that. Just need to let them to get on with it,
Speculation is more than half the fun in between races, and in between seasons is all we've got.
We should get on with voicing our opinions.
I think we both misunderstood the point of each other's post. My apologies.
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It certainly does make a mess of preparation for the team. And disrupts the planning around contract renewals etc which all the teams are aware of and plan their driver strategies around.
But you have to be ruthless to become WDC and Nico has shown he's prepared to be ruthless in some of the wheel to wheel shenanigans. He's done a very good job of being single minded and ruthless while keeping the PR machine presenting him as merely hard working and professional - very well managed. I don't think it's a massive shock and it's his life to do with as he wishes. Thankfully it wasn't Lewis as people would want him arrested and in the stocks.
I think it's Bottas, he's quick enough and experienced enough and connected enough to fit into the team and be low risk but quick and consistent. He's probably prepared to play the long game and follow instructions for a year or two to cement himself in the car (if next years is any good). There are other options of course but this has to happen quick and outside of the expected cycle of driver availability. I'd be surprised if it isn't him.
But you have to be ruthless to become WDC and Nico has shown he's prepared to be ruthless in some of the wheel to wheel shenanigans. He's done a very good job of being single minded and ruthless while keeping the PR machine presenting him as merely hard working and professional - very well managed. I don't think it's a massive shock and it's his life to do with as he wishes. Thankfully it wasn't Lewis as people would want him arrested and in the stocks.
I think it's Bottas, he's quick enough and experienced enough and connected enough to fit into the team and be low risk but quick and consistent. He's probably prepared to play the long game and follow instructions for a year or two to cement himself in the car (if next years is any good). There are other options of course but this has to happen quick and outside of the expected cycle of driver availability. I'd be surprised if it isn't him.
Funny how Hamilton has been slaughtered by some on PH for not being a "team player" for daring to try to win the title in his last race and yet those same people are trying to defend Rosberg who walked out on the team that made it possible for him to win his title, within a day or so of achieving it and only a few weeks after signing a new contract.
Unbelievable...
Unbelievable...
Hungrymc said:
It certainly does make a mess of preparation for the team. And disrupts the planning around contract renewals etc which all the teams are aware of and plan their driver strategies around.
But you have to be ruthless to become WDC and Nico has shown he's prepared to be ruthless in some of the wheel to wheel shenanigans. He's done a very good job of being single minded and ruthless while keeping the PR machine presenting him as merely hard working and professional - very well managed. I don't think it's a massive shock and it's his life to do with as he wishes. Thankfully it wasn't Lewis as people would want him arrested and in the stocks.
I think it's Bottas, he's quick enough and experienced enough and connected enough to fit into the team and be low risk but quick and consistent. He's probably prepared to play the long game and follow instructions for a year or two to cement himself in the car (if next years is any good). There are other options of course but this has to happen quick and outside of the expected cycle of driver availability. I'd be surprised if it isn't him.
I sort of agree with you regards NR. No team employs a driver not expecting him to be selfish and self serving. I think, however, there's a difference between wheel to wheel racing incidents and methods, and loyalty to the team. I can see why he might want to keep the info to himself, but is it the right thing to do?But you have to be ruthless to become WDC and Nico has shown he's prepared to be ruthless in some of the wheel to wheel shenanigans. He's done a very good job of being single minded and ruthless while keeping the PR machine presenting him as merely hard working and professional - very well managed. I don't think it's a massive shock and it's his life to do with as he wishes. Thankfully it wasn't Lewis as people would want him arrested and in the stocks.
I think it's Bottas, he's quick enough and experienced enough and connected enough to fit into the team and be low risk but quick and consistent. He's probably prepared to play the long game and follow instructions for a year or two to cement himself in the car (if next years is any good). There are other options of course but this has to happen quick and outside of the expected cycle of driver availability. I'd be surprised if it isn't him.
There's much that's gone on in Merc that we don't know about of course, and he might have a valid reason to do the dirty, but it is hardly the action of a gentleman.
I agree with what you say with regards the criticism of Hamilton had it been him. However, he showed his metal when being threatened by the then bloke in charge of the FIA. He stuck by Merc whereas Alonso couldn't be bothered to turn up at the hearing. Nice. LH might dress like a rapper but I doubt he'd leave his team struggling for a driver this late in the year.
But then, we don't know the full details.
How about Rossi in a merc seat! Only went back 2 pages to see if they has been linked!
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/motogp-sta...
That one choice I didn't think would be there, but for an advertising bonus and for total amount of follower would be huge! Won't be short of people wanting interviews and TV time!
http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/motogp-sta...
That one choice I didn't think would be there, but for an advertising bonus and for total amount of follower would be huge! Won't be short of people wanting interviews and TV time!
Edited by Baron Greenback on Wednesday 7th December 21:09
cjm said:
So a rookie isn't good enough, but you then highlight a rookie showing up a world champion? Lewis had a Merc(McLaren) contract when he came in to F1, and so does Wehrlein.
Different kinds of Rookies.Edited by cjm on Wednesday 7th December 11:40
Lewis came from a string of single seater experience and back to back championship wins in Formula 3 and GP2 including several very impressive comeback drives, the signs were all there that he was something special before he even set foot in an F1 car.
Wehrlein's single seater experience is limited and the experience he does have has nothing to show from it that is particularly impressive - certainly no better than most of the current GP2 field. His DTM championship is impressive but If you followed the DTM season that Wehrlein actually won you'd know that just like Nico, he had quite alot of luck to help him along by all his rivals having various issues throughout he season - DTM is a completely different beast to F1.
jm doc said:
Funny how Hamilton has been slaughtered by some on PH for not being a "team player" for daring to try to win the title in his last race and yet those same people are trying to defend Rosberg who walked out on the team that made it possible for him to win his title, within a day or so of achieving it and only a few weeks after signing a new contract.
Unbelievable...
Indeed it is. You won't be hearing from them on the subject. Unbelievable...
Derek Smith said:
I sort of agree with you regards NR. No team employs a driver not expecting him to be selfish and self serving. I think, however, there's a difference between wheel to wheel racing incidents and methods, and loyalty to the team. I can see why he might want to keep the info to himself, but is it the right thing to do?
There's much that's gone on in Merc that we don't know about of course, and he might have a valid reason to do the dirty, but it is hardly the action of a gentleman.
What would Mercedes have done with the information had they known in advance? They still couldn't have signed another driver unless they were certain he was going to win the WDC and retire. Unless they were certain about the outcome of the championship either way then they couldn't have acted on it until after the final race anyway. Having that knowledge in advance may have affected how the team treated Rosberg and ultimately influenced the outcome.There's much that's gone on in Merc that we don't know about of course, and he might have a valid reason to do the dirty, but it is hardly the action of a gentleman.
Hungrymc said:
It certainly does make a mess of preparation for the team. And disrupts the planning around contract renewals etc which all the teams are aware of and plan their driver strategies around.
Outside of the sporting aspect there are plenty of knock-on effects in the commercial area. As trivial as it may seem loss of earnings due to failed advertising commitments will cost Mercedes. Also next year's merchandise will already have been produced. Everything with Nico's name on will simply be binned: all six hats, three calendars and two mugs. TheInternet said:
Outside of the sporting aspect there are plenty of knock-on effects in the commercial area. As trivial as it may seem loss of earnings due to failed advertising commitments will cost Mercedes. Also next year's merchandise will already have been produced. Everything with Nico's name on will simply be binned: all six hats, three calendars and two mugs.
I think you've just nailed it! They'll save millions by signing Hulkenberg and not having to bin all their 2017 Nico merch, it's so obvious now!
Leroy902 said:
jm doc said:
Funny how Hamilton has been slaughtered by some on PH for not being a "team player" for daring to try to win the title in his last race and yet those same people are trying to defend Rosberg who walked out on the team that made it possible for him to win his title, within a day or so of achieving it and only a few weeks after signing a new contract.
Unbelievable...
Indeed it is. You won't be hearing from them on the subject. Unbelievable...
Apart from that signing a contract then backing out is dodgy, but then again Merc can fill that seat with anyone and it'll be 1-2's all the way and in fact he has done them a favour as they will get a young number 2 driver in now so no chance of them crashing into each other.
I don't think anyone has said they adore Nico, just more that hes average driver that just happened to be able to beat Lewis...
The motogp boys wont go to F1 as its dull as dish water compared to what they do, so no chance, although they could easily make the switch but i very much doubt the boys in F1 could switch to the bikes so easy..
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