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Silverstone to opt out of hosting GP

Silverstone to opt out of hosting GP

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rubystone

10,539 posts

173 months

Tuesday 10th January
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thegreenhell said:
They've yet to break ground on the project. It's all brewing up into something of a scandal, with millions of pounds of government funding and nothing to show for it. There's an interesting investigative documentary in the iplayer about it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07yy22v/week...
Destined to fail from the start. They bought the rights to the British MotoGP round and immediately signed a deal with Silverstone to host it. Bought a couple of Transits last year, stickered them up and spent the whole MotoGP weekend driving them around the peri track at Silverstone. Needless to say one conked out after the race....

ukaskew

2,768 posts

135 months

Wednesday 11th January
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Circuit of Wales have just announced (wait for it):

Water and wave park
Drift track
MTB track
Indoor and outdoor karting centre
Trampoline park
Paintball centre
Moto X track
Skate park
Indoor ski centre
Hotel
Lodges
Retail park

It's like a 16 year old just wrote a list of everything they'd like in one place. Silverstone can't even afford to build a bridge st the moment.

Vaud

22,788 posts

69 months

Wednesday 11th January
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ukaskew said:
Circuit of Wales have just announced (wait for it):

Water and wave park
Drift track
MTB track
Indoor and outdoor karting centre
Trampoline park
Paintball centre
Moto X track
Skate park
Indoor ski centre
Hotel
Lodges
Retail park

It's like a 16 year old just wrote a list of everything they'd like in one place. Silverstone can't even afford to build a bridge st the moment.
But no actual track? wink

Alex Langheck

704 posts

43 months

Wednesday 11th January
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Oh dear, they're really not helping themselves, are they? Nobody really believes the circuit will be built - and they come out with 'fairy story' ideas of future plans.

Vaud

22,788 posts

69 months

Wednesday 11th January
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Alex Langheck said:
Oh dear, they're really not helping themselves, are they? Nobody really believes the circuit will be built - and they come out with 'fairy story' ideas of future plans.
Ironically, it's maybe the kind of thing that the Welsh Govt should be supporting, it's probably more viable on a long term basis.
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rev-erend

19,249 posts

198 months

Wednesday 11th January
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COW sounds like the carrot Bernie used before against Silverstone / BDA. Anyone remember the Donnington fiasco.

REALIST123

7,593 posts

67 months

Wednesday 11th January
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Vaud said:
Alex Langheck said:
Oh dear, they're really not helping themselves, are they? Nobody really believes the circuit will be built - and they come out with 'fairy story' ideas of future plans.
Ironically, it's maybe the kind of thing that the Welsh Govt should be supporting, it's probably more viable on a long term basis.

If it were viable there'd be no need for taxpayer support.

rdjohn

2,186 posts

109 months

Wednesday 11th January
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Vaud said:
Not sure we are. I would pay to watch (and do via Now TV occasionally) - if that proposition gets a bit better then I'll be more regular, reluctantly.

And there are some really interesting new technologies. How about the ability to race "live against Lewis Hamilton"? The tech exists. Streaming of live race positions to an F1 game and a fan can be in their own virtual cockpit (although without collisions) and be part of the race... etc...

Or VR? see the race in 3d, via a VR headset, from the cockpit. I'd pay a few extra £ in a race to see that.
It's the kids who are perhaps 10 years old now that some forward looking person needs to be planning for, 20-years from now.

By that time, lots of general purpose cars will be electric and personal transport is likely to be more expensive than it is now. Just like the current 30 somethings have been priced out of house buying, I suspect that in 20-years time, direct car ownership will be in decline. Car2Go schemes are likely to become normal. Cars will become a utility, rather than a status symbol. Meeting people online, rather than face-to-face, will become even more prominent than today.

In such a scenario, the current manufacturers will probably have quit F1 and the underlying demand that was created by terrestrial TV in the past will have waned.

Given the relative simplicity today to watch F1 for free, via the Internet, I doubt there will be very many wanting to take out a subscription with NOW TV, like you are currently doing. File sharing and streaming is what young people are doing right now. They have other things they want to spend cash on and F1 is just one aspect of the entertainment industry vying for that cash.

Vaud

22,788 posts

69 months

Wednesday 11th January
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rdjohn said:
It's the kids who are perhaps 10 years old now that some forward looking person needs to be planning for, 20-years from now.

By that time, lots of general purpose cars will be electric and personal transport is likely to be more expensive than it is now. Just like the current 30 somethings have been priced out of house buying, I suspect that in 20-years time, direct car ownership will be in decline. Car2Go schemes are likely to become normal. Cars will become a utility, rather than a status symbol. Meeting people online, rather than face-to-face, will become even more prominent than today.

In such a scenario, the current manufacturers will probably have quit F1 and the underlying demand that was created by terrestrial TV in the past will have waned.

Given the relative simplicity today to watch F1 for free, via the Internet, I doubt there will be very many wanting to take out a subscription with NOW TV, like you are currently doing. File sharing and streaming is what young people are doing right now. They have other things they want to spend cash on and F1 is just one aspect of the entertainment industry vying for that cash.
All true. I am aware of the other options, and I hate giving money to Murdoch. I just wish FOM would licence content directly...

Netflix / Amazon / Apple - now those are companies that could do something special with the content.

Irrotational

1,487 posts

102 months

Wednesday 25th January
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Vaud said:
rdjohn said:
It's the kids who are perhaps 10 years old now that some forward looking person needs to be planning for, 20-years from now.

By that time, lots of general purpose cars will be electric and personal transport is likely to be more expensive than it is now. Just like the current 30 somethings have been priced out of house buying, I suspect that in 20-years time, direct car ownership will be in decline. Car2Go schemes are likely to become normal. Cars will become a utility, rather than a status symbol. Meeting people online, rather than face-to-face, will become even more prominent than today.

In such a scenario, the current manufacturers will probably have quit F1 and the underlying demand that was created by terrestrial TV in the past will have waned.

Given the relative simplicity today to watch F1 for free, via the Internet, I doubt there will be very many wanting to take out a subscription with NOW TV, like you are currently doing. File sharing and streaming is what young people are doing right now. They have other things they want to spend cash on and F1 is just one aspect of the entertainment industry vying for that cash.
All true. I am aware of the other options, and I hate giving money to Murdoch. I just wish FOM would licence content directly...

Netflix / Amazon / Apple - now those are companies that could do something special with the content.
20 years from now the vast majority of trips will be in self-driving cars, basically treated as taxi's, hired for a small fee per trip on contactless payments.

People in rural areas will probably still own/run a car but that would be the exception rather than the rule....and they'll probably use self-driving mode and read a book most of the time.

Vaud

22,788 posts

69 months

Wednesday 25th January
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Irrotational said:
20 years from now the vast majority of trips will be in self-driving cars, basically treated as taxi's, hired for a small fee per trip on contactless payments.

People in rural areas will probably still own/run a car but that would be the exception rather than the rule....and they'll probably use self-driving mode and read a book most of the time.
They will indeed. I'm looking forward to it. I'd far rather talk to my daughter on the way to nursery about her day than focus on the traffic.

Though in 20 years it might be my granddaughter instead.