Liberty changes relationships and possibly the CEO

Liberty changes relationships and possibly the CEO

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Derek Smith

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45,666 posts

248 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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jsf said:
Your are very wrong.

Hearing damage occurs the moment you are exposed to levels the ear is not designed for.

There are also cumulative effects that increase the damage.
This.

I had hearing problems after the '85 British. I went to see a doctor and got severely reprimanded for risking my hearing. 'Would you risk your eyesight?' was one question that didn't need an answer.

I was in a firearms unit for a number of years and I always wore ear defenders when firing live rounds, but they were crude. I'm deaf in my right ear on most days and the other is running rough. In discussion with an ear doctor I was more or less told, 'What do you expect?' My protestations that I could hear perfectly well for 30 years afterwards got me another lecture.

My father was in the RA and spent six years on anti-aircraft guns. No problem with his hearing until he hit 60. Then we had to shout.

An odd thing: I cannot hear speech in situations where there is background noise - pubs, clubs, etc - and where there is loud noise, such as a cinema, it is a cacophony. Putting ear plugs in (stable doors and all that) helps me hear more clearly. Weird or what?

Look after your hearing. It is very isolating not being able to understand others. If I live to a ripe old whatsit I'll go stone deaf.


Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Vaud said:
Eric Mc said:
You'll have to speak up, young man.

My adding machine makes a colossal racket.
Don't worry, they are bringing out a hybrid version soon. Much quieter, slower at first and much more expensive.
Will it have a handle?

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Derek Smith said:
This.

I had hearing problems after the '85 British. I went to see a doctor and got severely reprimanded for risking my hearing. 'Would you risk your eyesight?' was one question that didn't need an answer.

I was in a firearms unit for a number of years and I always wore ear defenders when firing live rounds, but they were crude. I'm deaf in my right ear on most days and the other is running rough. In discussion with an ear doctor I was more or less told, 'What do you expect?' My protestations that I could hear perfectly well for 30 years afterwards got me another lecture.

My father was in the RA and spent six years on anti-aircraft guns. No problem with his hearing until he hit 60. Then we had to shout.

An odd thing: I cannot hear speech in situations where there is background noise - pubs, clubs, etc - and where there is loud noise, such as a cinema, it is a cacophony. Putting ear plugs in (stable doors and all that) helps me hear more clearly. Weird or what?

Look after your hearing. It is very isolating not being able to understand others. If I live to a ripe old whatsit I'll go stone deaf.
Probably Keke Rosberg's manic qualifying lap that did it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Derek Smith said:


An odd thing: I cannot hear speech in situations where there is background noise - pubs, clubs, etc - and where there is loud noise, such as a cinema, it is a cacophony. Putting ear plugs in (stable doors and all that) helps me hear more clearly. Weird or what?

That's quite normal for people with reduced hearing ability Derek, the ability to filter out background noise is diminished which makes hearing what you want to very difficult. It makes social occasions very tiring for people who suffer from this because you have to concentrate much harder than you would normally.

There have been some good advancements in hearing aid technology that helps in this respect. Digital hearing aids are available that are designed to help improve that scenario.


paua

5,741 posts

143 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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jsf said:
Derek Smith said:


An odd thing: I cannot hear speech in situations where there is background noise - pubs, clubs, etc - and where there is loud noise, such as a cinema, it is a cacophony. Putting ear plugs in (stable doors and all that) helps me hear more clearly. Weird or what?

That's quite normal for people with reduced hearing ability Derek, the ability to filter out background noise is diminished which makes hearing what you want to very difficult. It makes social occasions very tiring for people who suffer from this because you have to concentrate much harder than you would normally.

There have been some good advancements in hearing aid technology that helps in this respect. Digital hearing aids are available that are designed to help improve that scenario.
I'm a commercial abalone (paua) diver, this is exactly my experience. I can time & date the onset of my tinnitus to 4:50 one afternoon in August of 1997. Ironically, the tinnitus is in my better ear ( shxt happens)
Some sound frequencies can be quite painful, but I really struggle in social situations. Always wear quality earmuffs for using lawn-mower/chainsaw etc.

Derek Smith

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45,666 posts

248 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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jsf said:
That's quite normal for people with reduced hearing ability Derek, the ability to filter out background noise is diminished which makes hearing what you want to very difficult. It makes social occasions very tiring for people who suffer from this because you have to concentrate much harder than you would normally.

There have been some good advancements in hearing aid technology that helps in this respect. Digital hearing aids are available that are designed to help improve that scenario.
It is common at my age I think. I went to an end of season dance at my club and all us old buggers were as far away from the DJ as we could get. If it hadn't been drizzling we'd have sat outside. It was an evening of improvised sign language, some quite entertaining, but essentially we were out of it.


Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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I was like that when I was 18.

C Lee Farquar

4,068 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Great to see Liberty are demonstrating their proclaimed support of the historic tracks by ... err.. extending Sochi's contract to 2025!

Vaud

50,535 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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C Lee Farquar said:
Great to see Liberty are demonstrating their proclaimed support of the historic tracks by ... err.. extending Sochi's contract to 2025!
They may have had no choice. Depends if Sochi had the a unilateral option to extend it.

Crafty_

13,289 posts

200 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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I don't know why there is such surprise over this really.

LM want to earn money from F1. My bet is the nice Mr Putin has shoved a wedge their way.

Reading various bits and pieces, some seemed to think that Bernie was the root of all evil and it'll all be a lovely fluffy world with him gone, only the 'good' tracks (whatever they might be) would get races, tickets will be £2.50 each and all races will be on FTA TV..

My guess is that LM will be just as ruthless with money and deals, the only difference will be they'll sugarcoat it.

Don't get me wrong, I do think they will make some positive changes but its clear that some have unrealistic expectations as to whats going to happen moving forwards.

M3ax

1,291 posts

212 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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Well they certainly didn't buy it to regress it. Agree with Crafty.

Derek Smith

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45,666 posts

248 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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I think we are in a period when the owners will want to target specific problems in order to get the sport into profit.

The grid size is one thing. Costs is another. Dominance by one car might be on the agenda (although best of luck with the one constant of the sport over recent years), and they will leave matters such as circuits to run for a while.


Alicatt1

805 posts

195 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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Derek Smith said:
An odd thing: I cannot hear speech in situations where there is background noise - pubs, clubs, etc - and where there is loud noise, such as a cinema, it is a cacophony. Putting ear plugs in (stable doors and all that) helps me hear more clearly. Weird or what?

Look after your hearing. It is very isolating not being able to understand others. If I live to a ripe old whatsit I'll go stone deaf.
This^
My fault was going to a Mungo Jerry concert on my 16th birthday and standing about 6ft from the speakers, my hearing has not been the same since. My father came with me and he was deaf in his left ear ever since, he never blamed me for it but that concert will for always be over shadowed by what it left us.

That, and on the way home we came across an accident where a Lotus Cortina on the wrong side of the road had hit a van and ripped the front off of it, the offside front wheel was still embedded in the front of the Cortina about 150yards down the road. The driver of the van was one of my fathers employees, an apprentice from our garage's bodyshop. Aye it was a memorable night 20/06/72

Up to when I was 22 I proof checked recordings in a recording studio as part of my duties my hearing was still ok then but now I'm 60 and well a night out at the disco and its "Eh? ... What did you say?" not fun any more frown

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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You still go to discos?

Fair play to ya.