Early view of 2017 Williams
Discussion
Vocal Minority said:
dr_gn said:
Crap.
Next.
What would you prefer?Next.
(not being confrontational, genuine question)
TBH I've not really followed F1 since the advent of the pointless new engines, and the less I bother with it, the more I'm glad that my own F1 'era' was '85 - '94. People sometimes jokingly say "F1 died with Senna", but I think there's some truth to it. IMO Senna, (maybe Hill) were the last of the drivers who had any kind of personality that added something to the sport.
Terrible looking (and sounding) cars like the above just add to the blandness that currently is F1.
rdjohn said:
The old adage used to be "if it looks fast; it probably is".
WRC have just changed their rules and the cars look stonking (IMHO). They definitely don't have a pecker up-front.
But according to the FIA, they're TOO FAST!WRC have just changed their rules and the cars look stonking (IMHO). They definitely don't have a pecker up-front.
God forbid that motor sport be rapid!
Let's hope that the FIA don't get an attack of the Colly wobbles if these revised F1 designs lap a bit quicker than last year's model!
Evilex said:
rdjohn said:
The old adage used to be "if it looks fast; it probably is".
WRC have just changed their rules and the cars look stonking (IMHO). They definitely don't have a pecker up-front.
But according to the FIA, they're TOO FAST!WRC have just changed their rules and the cars look stonking (IMHO). They definitely don't have a pecker up-front.
God forbid that motor sport be rapid!
Let's hope that the FIA don't get an attack of the Colly wobbles if these revised F1 designs lap a bit quicker than last year's model!
Without snow banks, they are concerned about the average speed on ice / snow. Just as they were with the average speed on the Mulsanne straight in 1990. Chicanes will suffice next year.
I do not anticipate any concerns on the warm-weather rallies this year. But it would be wrong to suggest that the show has not been improved by the changes.
HustleRussell said:
Surely this release is essentially nothing more than a livery launch?
That was my assumption too. After all, why release images of the new car before the launch date? Hopefully it's Williams getting two bites at the launch publicity cherry. Then again, with the state of current F1 regs, who knows? Haven't this years cars effectively undone all the work of the overtaking group (or whatever it was called)?It's a pretty crummy render and Williams certainly aren't going to be giving away any of their detailing by showing it now - hopefully it'll look better in real life - but I think this year will prove that making the cars look better, or more 90s, will not improve the racing and asking what the public think is a f
king stupid idea.
king stupid idea.I wish they'd scrap all the add-ons everywhere. The rule should be:
Front wing:
Two central uprights maximum.
One fixed horizontal element from each upright to each end plate.
One adjustable horizontal element from each upright to each end plate.
Narrower front wing to reduce risk of being damaged during close racing.
Rear wing:
Two central uprights maximum.
One fixed horizontal element supported by the central uprights and holding the end plates.
One adjustable horizontal element between the end plates.
Nothing added to any of the wing elements.
Nothing added to the bodywork.
See McLaren MP4/4 for clarification
Front wing:
Two central uprights maximum.
One fixed horizontal element from each upright to each end plate.
One adjustable horizontal element from each upright to each end plate.
Narrower front wing to reduce risk of being damaged during close racing.
Rear wing:
Two central uprights maximum.
One fixed horizontal element supported by the central uprights and holding the end plates.
One adjustable horizontal element between the end plates.
Nothing added to any of the wing elements.
Nothing added to the bodywork.
See McLaren MP4/4 for clarification
Looks like a fairly conservative render, mostly 2016 influenced bits showing as little of their hand as possible, while dragging publicity in.
If you take the complexity away, you ruin the sport - see A1GP for how dull that was.
MitchT said:
See McLaren MP4/4 for clarification
Rose-tinted specs as usual imo - 1988 was one of the most one-sided championship years ever, producing nothing more than what we've seen the last few years, i.e. a car which is the class of the field dominating without difficulty. Senna and Prost both had more than double the points of the 2nd place guy, and Mclaren had 3x Ferrari's constructor's points.If you take the complexity away, you ruin the sport - see A1GP for how dull that was.
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