Car launch 2017

Car launch 2017

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KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

174 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Quickmoose said:
Have there been changes to the wheelbase?
These things look comically long....
Few mm here and there, it would seem the designer misread them as inches.
They'll be a lot shorter come the 1st corner, when many a driver is going to forget how wide hey are.

Dr Murdoch

3,427 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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markcoznottz said:
Mosley narrowed the track of the cars '95, stupid decision imho, I think the move back to the wider rear tyres is reluctant, but the current atmosphere means things need sexing up.
98

Dr Murdoch

3,427 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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The fins didn't appear too bad before as they were the same height as the rear wing, now they've lowered the rear wing....eekyikesvomit

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Paul-M said:
garyhun said:
What is the reason for the 'tail' behind the airbox to the rear wing - it looks horrid on all of them. Is it an aero thing or some regulatory thing?
The "sharks fin" as the engineers are calling it, is to improve airflow over the rear wing during cornering I believe. Purely there for aerodynamic reasons. Agree they look awful.
Many thanks.

Galileo

3,145 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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The long wheel base makes for a more stable cornering ability as the yaw in cornering as affected by the conservation of angular momentum.

Long wheel base makes 'em easier to control in the corners and easier to 'catch' when they start to drift/skid.
Think how quick a Kart is to spin around. I think they should shorten the wheelbase, as there would be a lot more leary sideways moments that the fans love. However, the safety people would say there would be more accidents when the drivers run out of talent.

Also I think the rear tyres should have a bigger rolling circumference and smaller ones at the front. That would make them look meaner. But then I love the F1's of the 70's so I'm biased.

moffspeed

2,664 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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Good God, swept back rear wing, wide tyres and the shark's fin - we used to call it A1 GP !!

Just fascinated that none of the pundits/experts (as far as I'm aware) predicted the return of the shark's fin solution - I'm fine with it on a Sportscar as it prevents an LMP car landing in your lap at Le Mans when you are enjoying your Merguez & Frites. As a soup it is tasty but has its critics - but on an F1 car - no thanks. Just wonder whether, on aesthetic grounds, the FIA might ban them - as they did X wings. Whilst they are at it they could stipulate that the Force India either runs with a paper bag over its nose or has a trip to a design shop for a rhinoplasty ???

MarcosWatts12

2 posts

95 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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FourWheelDrift

88,377 posts

283 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I hate videos where the audio doesn't match the visuals.

dr_gn

16,140 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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I find it amazing that despite having pretty much uprecidented ingredients e.g. high technology, money, visual and aural potential, history and charisma, the F1 rule makers still consistently manage to procure such abominable looking cars combined with what will probably continue to be, on the whole, terminally dull events.

ajprice

27,317 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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DS240 said:
The new Mercedes! (Pointless early teaser shots)



More Mercedes stuff, a video of those lines being airbrushed on by hand (!) . https://youtu.be/-nfzGHajgXk

Meanwhile Williams have a white car with flat colour Martini stripes probably put on as vinyl graphics hehe

Fire99

9,844 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2017
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DS240 said:
Prize for ugliest 2017 car so far goes to.....







Would it really make much aero difference to round the nose off rather than the step? I hope others won't be finding the same solution.
That is without a doubt struck by the ugly stick, or should I say ugly fin?

F1GTRUeno

6,335 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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They're going to look more ridiculous than ever going around Monaco, are they even gonna be able to navigate the hairpin?

DanielSan

18,746 posts

166 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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ajprice said:
More Mercedes stuff, a video of those lines being airbrushed on by hand (!) . https://youtu.be/-nfzGHajgXk

Meanwhile Williams have a white car with flat colour Martini stripes probably put on as vinyl graphics hehe
Have a look at the old video on YT of the Toro Rosso bulls being painted, every engine cover is hand airbrushed.... I'd say Merc are hardly pushing the boat out when it comes to livery

lee_fr200

5,475 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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I think the sauber is quite pretty
The Renault looks great

The force India looks all wrong from the front to the back

ajprice

27,317 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Mercedes pictures doing shakedown stuff



DS240

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4,636 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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ajprice said:
Mercedes pictures doing shakedown stuff


Nice pics.

That looks amazing. The packaging looks incredible.

That is looking scarily good! Hope it's not another year of domination.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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After all the talk of 'more aggressive' looking cars I'm left totally underwhelmed.

2016 tubs with fat tyres, stuck-on afterthought dorsal fins, wider front wing and a big square undertray grafted on to try and reconcile the difference in dimensions between the old a new bits is what I am seeing essentially.

Am I wrong?

Like most people I am predicting more car damage as a result of these changes. More bits of carbon fibre scattered on track leading to safety car periods (and several standing restarts) and even less combative driving for fear of damaging the larger extremities.

Another shot-in-the-foot for F1.

Edited by r11co on Thursday 23 February 11:38

HustleRussell

24,602 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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ajprice said:
Eurgh, horrible.

I'm actually really disappointed with the way these cars look. I know they'll be fast they won't be so fast that we can't see their various bulges, bumps and appendages. Somebody should've seen the increase in wheelbase coming, wheelbase to track is an important ratio in determining rotational stability (or something).

RigbyZ

622 posts

171 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Best looking so far! I know that's not very hard but still.

Also, no shark fin!

FourWheelDrift

88,377 posts

283 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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They are taking their official launch lightly as their twitter feed is posting photos from the shakedown.

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/834726037...

I think that's called confidence.