Car launch 2017

Car launch 2017

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DanielSan

18,792 posts

167 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Crafty_ said:
Most of those companies are "partners", which means major sponsors.

Size of logo has little correlation to the level of sponsorship, if it did these guys would be paying billions, right ?
And these were only paying 20p not 10's of millions in high profile team naming levels of sponsorship....



You know very well in F1 space on the car equals more cost... Mclaren run the partner system with most logos in their car but even Ron had stated numerous times they needed a title sponsor aswell, a sponsor that would decide/influence a livery.... Partner doesn't always mean major sponsor, the company that supplied the lighting at Woking are a partner and get all the VIP treatment at races in return for doing the job for free. That hardly constitutes a major sponsor investing into the team to help it run from race to race....

I'm making a fairly obvious and easy to understand point, are you just bored or something?


HardtopManual

2,430 posts

166 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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l354uge said:
Classic FIA, they wrote the new rear wing regs but forgot to remove the old rear wing regs...So we now have these extra wings.
Yep - here's a visualisation of the dimensions regs at the rear. They accidentally left the front of the old wing box in the regs. Morons.


Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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HardtopManual said:
l354uge said:
Classic FIA, they wrote the new rear wing regs but forgot to remove the old rear wing regs...So we now have these extra wings.
Yep - here's a visualisation of the dimensions regs at the rear. They accidentally left the front of the old wing box in the regs. Morons.

Looks like Minecraft might be entering a team.

bobbo89

5,216 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Haas doesn't look too bad!


Emeye

9,773 posts

223 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I really am struggling to like the look of any of the new 2017 cars. Maybe I was after something more simple and retro?

Hopefully things can be saved if the cars are more racy - but I'm not holding my breath. I cancelled Sky last week, and unless they come back with a super deal, I'll be making a half arsed effort to watch it on Channel4 - a lifetime dedicated F1 fan and I'm struggling to get excited about the new season for the first time in 30 years. frown

Edited by Emeye on Saturday 25th February 18:35

ajprice

27,477 posts

196 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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One of the better looking ones, the graphics on the shark fin sort of hide it so you follow the line of the engine cover instead.

Daz68

3,367 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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So we now have cars that are bloody ugly and still sound crap and with the new regs maybe even harder to overtake? Progress sometimes isn't a good thing.

RATATTAK

11,019 posts

189 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Question - why are the shark fins back ?

Emeye

9,773 posts

223 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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RATATTAK said:
Question - why are the shark fins back ?
I was wondering that too - what does the shark fin bring to the aerodynamic party?

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Emeye said:
RATATTAK said:
Question - why are the shark fins back ?
I was wondering that too - what does the shark fin bring to the aerodynamic party?
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/technical/2017/...

GarageQueen

2,295 posts

246 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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gees - the floors are huge on these cars!

FourWheelDrift

88,516 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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GarageQueen said:
gees - the floors are huge on these cars!
Lots more opportunity to cut tyres.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

196 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Somebody needs to take a Dremel to the fins and to the floors.

Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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DanielSan said:
I'm making a fairly obvious and easy to understand point, are you just bored or something?
You implied that F1 doesn't have any major sponsors, which quite clearly it does, unless those companies I listed are all paying £3.50 each.

So whats your point ?

If you love talking F1 down so much, why even bother posting in this section ?


Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Emeye said:
Maybe I was after something more simple and retro?



Edited by Emeye on Saturday 25th February 18:35
I am afraid I think this post is a bit of a summary of PH and F1 fans as a whole.

'I was hoping for a history that I am pining for'.

But that probably didn't exist.

I agree - I personally believe f1 designe peaked in the early-mid nineties. But to be honest, really, its all no better or worse.




bobbo89

5,216 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Emeye said:
RATATTAK said:
Question - why are the shark fins back ?
I was wondering that too - what does the shark fin bring to the aerodynamic party?
I've not looked at any of the links but I assume it creates a more stable airflow over the rear wing. Previously the airbox would have created turbulent air which would then hit the rear wing, more controlled airflow makes for a more aerodynamically efficient wing

ClockworkCupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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bobbo89 said:
Emeye said:
RATATTAK said:
Question - why are the shark fins back ?
I was wondering that too - what does the shark fin bring to the aerodynamic party?
I've not looked at any of the links but I assume it creates a more stable airflow over the rear wing. Previously the airbox would have created turbulent air which would then hit the rear wing, more controlled airflow makes for a more aerodynamically efficient wing
Answered in a link earlier... it's to counteract the new lower wings and smooth the airflow over them, especially when cornering. Plus the regulations allow them.

GCH

3,991 posts

202 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Warmfuzzies

3,984 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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GCH said:
The power of dreams?

suffolk009

5,393 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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bobbo89 said:
Emeye said:
RATATTAK said:
Question - why are the shark fins back ?
I was wondering that too - what does the shark fin bring to the aerodynamic party?
I've not looked at any of the links but I assume it creates a more stable airflow over the rear wing. Previously the airbox would have created turbulent air which would then hit the rear wing, more controlled airflow makes for a more aerodynamically efficient wing
Look up Craig Scarborough on DriveTribes. A good explanation.