2nd Test 2017

[eps]

London424 said:

Are there any sites around where people have analysed the long runs of each of the teams to try and draw conclusions?

jamesallenonf1.com had a brief analysis, but most teams had been trying to hide their true form in the first test

[thegreenhell]

Another strong-looking day for Ferrari.

[Vocal Minority]

Milage wise it is Mercedes, Ferrari and Force India who have been relentlessly pounding round sticking to programs

[VolvoT5]

So Vettel and Massa both managed 168 laps today.... That is approaching 3 times a race distance in one day... These cars can't be THAT physical to drive can they?

Ferrari seem to be the fastest of the soft compound runners and look quite strong? McHonda seem to go from bad to worse, surely they will divorce before the 10 year contract is up?

[ajprice]

thegreenhell said:

Another strong-looking day for Ferrari.

Lewis thinks so too http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39199829

[DanielSan]

Ferrreri and Red Bull are looking strong while going about their business fairly quietly.

[paulrockliffe]

aberdeeneuan said:

Was on autosport yesterday:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128387

Typical FIA rules, you're not allowed to burn oil in the engine, but you have to plumb your crankcase breathers into the fueling system which means you will burn oil....

[Vaud]

VolvoT5 said:

So Vettel and Massa both managed 168 laps today.... That is approaching 3 times a race distance in one day... These cars can't be THAT physical to drive can they?

Ferrari seem to be the fastest of the soft compound runners and look quite strong? McHonda seem to go from bad to worse, surely they will divorce before the 10 year contract is up?

The good news is they are getting serious miles in - there can be no excuses of "not completing their testing program", etc...

[BrettMRC]

Looks like a slow start in general this morning....

[tommunster10]

Well Williams seem to be doing well......

[Jabbah]

VolvoT5 said:

So Vettel and Massa both managed 168 laps today.... That is approaching 3 times a race distance in one day... These cars can't be THAT physical to drive can they?

If they are that physical to drive then they wouldn't be pushing the cars to the maximum so they could physically complete the distances. That would make the times even less meaningless than usual.

[tommunster10]

Jabbah said:

VolvoT5 said:

So Vettel and Massa both managed 168 laps today.... That is approaching 3 times a race distance in one day... These cars can't be THAT physical to drive can they?

If they are that physical to drive then they wouldn't be pushing the cars to the maximum so they could physically complete the distances. That would make the times even less meaningless than usual.

And you think they will be pushing to the max during a race for every lap? Maximum will be Qualify mode for few laps max. They aren't massively physical hence upstarts like Stroll driving them because his Dad paid 20 mil to Williams.

Not sure why Nico came out saying they will be like gladiators this year. No one is trying to engineer a car that is impossible to drive in fact the opposite...

[Vocal Minority]

tommunster10 said:

They aren't massively physical hence upstarts like Stroll driving them because his Dad paid 20 mil to Williams.

You are aware he dominated the F3 championship last year, and finished 5th at Daytona 24 hours?

I am not saying he is god's gift to driving. He probably isn't.

But he I don't think he is the total fking incompetent like the chip on your shoulder insists he is.

[Vaud]

tommunster10 said:

They aren't massively physical hence upstarts like Stroll driving them because his Dad paid 20 mil to Williams.

They are pretty physical, but then the drivers are all in supreme shape, far more so than in, say, the early 90's...

[RKi]

Vocal Minority said:

You are aware he dominated the F3 championship last year, and finished 5th at Daytona 24 hours?

I am not saying he is god's gift to driving. He probably isn't.

But he I don't think he is the total fking incompetent like the chip on your shoulder insists he is.

Hi Lance!

[thainy77]

Mercedes will be having words with Bottas for letting the cat out of the bag with that fast lap.

Hopefully times will start to fall now.

[Vocal Minority]

RKi said:

Hi Lance!

Hi!

It was just a friendly warning before my Daddy sues him - and uses the proceeds to buy me a Mercedes drive...

[George29]

Vocal Minority said:

You are aware he dominated the F3 championship last year, and finished 5th at Daytona 24 hours?

Frankly I would have been shocked if he didn't dominate F3 last year with the resources he had available

[Vocal Minority]

The jury is still out on him for me.

However there is a value in simply getting the job done. Lots of drivers in history have been given that sort of advantage and not managed it.

I doubt he will set F1 alight - but I do hope he gives tommunster a reason to stop sticking the knife in with every fking post!

Especially when the payment his Dad provides is about 5% of Mercedes annual budget - hardly world beater stuff.

[Vaud]

Vocal Minority said:

The jury is still out on him for me.

However there is a value in simply getting the job done. Lots of drivers in history have been given that sort of advantage and not managed it.

I doubt he will set F1 alight - but I do hope he gives tommunster a reason to stop sticking the knife in with every fking post!

Especially when the payment his Dad provides is about 5% of Mercedes annual budget - hardly world beater stuff.

Same for me. Let's see how he races. It's just a personal sponsor rather than a commercial sponsor in my mind. Alonso brings tens of millions in sponsorship... they just happen to be companies.