The Official 2017 Australian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 Australian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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Dr Z

3,396 posts

171 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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London424 said:
That's some great analysis there...but the scary thing is Lewis isn't pushing anywhere near as hard as Seb but still 3 tenths clear.

Really interesting to see the different styles though, Lewis preferring to slow things down earlier and get on the throttle earlier, whereas Seb goes in later and hotter but slower coming out.
As another poster said, not sure Lewis wasn't totally on it and I'm wondering if his driving style is somewhat demanded by the car itself? The Ferrari is a much shorter car compared to the Merc (RB shorter than the Ferrari)...

ClockworkCupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Let us not forget as well now Ecclestone has vacated F1 we are seeing many more F1 video clips online both official and non-official that are not taken down. Liberty seem to understand the meaning of free advertising marketing.
Indeed. Breath of fresh air, I reckon.

Although I reserve judgement on just how far they are going to go with it. I'm sure we don't want to see a Formula-E style "fanboost" or other such Social Media gimmicks.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Dr Z said:
As another poster said, not sure Lewis wasn't totally on it and I'm wondering if his driving style is somewhat demanded by the car itself? The Ferrari is a much shorter car compared to the Merc (RB shorter than the Ferrari)...
  • on the disclaimer that the acid test is tomorrow
I think a lot of people are making 'excuses' to justify their predictions of Mercedes dominance. Namely - Lewis isn't trying. It's Q3 for gods sake....I will man up and admit I am wrong if I am....but maybe he is being smooth because that is what the Merc rewards?! That's enormously adaptable on his part....doesn't mean there is more to come from wringing the cars neck

As I said, happy to be proved wrong, and happy to admit it.

But as with testing....I don't think I have yet.

Norfolkit

2,394 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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sparta6 said:
Bradgate said:
Agreed. Ted's doing too much of the bumbling twit act. Or perhaps it's not an act....
+1

I switch off Notebook now. He's getting dangerously close to becoming a total tw^t
Horses for courses. I love the notebook, a general ramble about quali or race. Bit much to call him a total tt when you've (probably) never had to put together a piece like that at short notice.

DS240

4,672 posts

218 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Norfolkit said:
Horses for courses. I love the notebook, a general ramble about quali or race. Bit much to call him a total tt when you've (probably) never had to put together a piece like that at short notice.
I generally enjoy notebook. I just like seeing activity behind the scenes.

I sometimes think the confused ramblings are a little pre meditated though, like he's decided it is a bit of a likable trademark and pushes it a bit hard. The Aldo Costa thing being a good example. You do kind of get the impression everyone thinks he's a total d!@k when they see him approaching and find it a bit cringy when they have to get involved with him.

Mumbling some random comment which the person 10ft away couldn't have possibly heard, but then looking at them for a response, so they look confused and he goes off mumbling about embarrassing them or going deeper into how silly he is rambling on.

His arrogance towards knowledgable fans at last years testing notebook was a bit annoying.

I do enjoy notebook, honest! There is a point though I just want someone really informed to deliver an accurate and informed opinion without a bit of a clown act.



skinny

5,269 posts

235 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Where has this 8G cornering come from. I thought it was more like 5 and a bit

PeXy

2,153 posts

171 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Morning all! Can anyone point me towards any live streaming of the race? Thanks

llewop

3,588 posts

211 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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jsf said:
moffspeed said:
I think an emerging theme is going to become how these new cars are seemingly unsalvageable once they begin to spin (Danny Ric today, JP and others previously) , consensus seems to be that the shark's fin is the major contributory factor to this. Seems ironic given the fact that they were introduced in the WEC to enhance stability and to prevent low level flight.

Aesthetics is one thing, driver safety another, what's the money on an FIA in-season ban ?? 1969 all over again..
Its not aero causing that issue.

Its the tyre slip angle working range. The new tyres appear to have a smaller operating window on slip angle, so once you go over the tyre slip angle limit you lose grip rapidly.

In the good old days of crossply tyres, the slip angle range was very large, so you could see lots of sideways driving. Radial tyres have a smaller working range due to the tyre construction, it looks like these new wider tyres have a much smaller range than the previous generation.

Pirelli may have to rethink the tyre construction or we may see a lot more of these crashes where a relatively small slide isn't catchable.
On Sky Pat Symonds was just saying that past a certain angle the vortex behind the fin could stall the rear wing, which could explain why the accidents this week seemed to be 'ok.... catching it..... then a snap and into the barrier'

Rick_1138

3,673 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Morning all. Forgot how bleary eyed "4am" was.

Dr Z

3,396 posts

171 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Morning all.

skinny said:
Where has this 8G cornering come from. I thought it was more like 5 and a bit
They were hitting 5G peaks at some corners last year. At some corners they are anywhere from 20 - 40 km/h faster this year. Grosjean claimed the 8G peaks after qualifying.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/monster-f1-cars...

MockingJay

1,311 posts

129 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Morning.

So, who's winning then?

My vote goes to vettel.

tvrforever

3,182 posts

265 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Morning - anybody known why Johnny Herbert isn't with the Sky F1 team?

Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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tvrforever said:
Morning - anybody known why Johnny Herbert isn't with the Sky F1 team?
They quite often rotate the team around - Damon, Johnny and a few others don't do all races

Danny Ric stranded on the circuit, dead gearbox apparently.

Teppic

7,353 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Daniel Ricciardo parked at the side of the track alread, apparently stuck in sixth gear. Looks like the race is over for him before it's even begun.

MockingJay

1,311 posts

129 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Ricciardo broken down. Gear box issue on our lap.

Z3MCJez

531 posts

172 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Gutted for Danny. I was looking forward to him coming through the field.

Jez

Crafty_

13,286 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Kvyat's extinguisher went off, they'll need to refill before the start or he can't race.

TheOversteerLever

1,340 posts

213 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Morning all! Fingers crossed for a good race. Shame about Ricciardo frown

I'm hoping this is when we all realised that the McLaren has been sandbagging, even in qually wink and goes on to a double-podium finish.

In other news, even though it's still dark outside, I've just seen a pig fly past my house!

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Crafty_ said:
Kvyat's extinguisher went off, they'll need to refill before the start or he can't race.
Swap unit only, if they can get to it quickly enough will be the issue.

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

228 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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So here we are then.... All the silly hours and early alarm calls over the last few days have brought us to the start of a new era in F1.
Personally I hope the start doesn't bring too much carnage and the race gives us some (much needed) excitement.

I can't wait!