The Official 2017 Australian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[Teppic]

Ricciardo' car is back in the pit garage, and he is getting back in the car, and should be able to start the race from the pit lane. According to Horner it was a sensor issue on the gearbox, rather than the gearbox itself.

[anonymous-user]

llewop said:

jsf said:

moffspeed said:

I think an emerging theme is going to become how these new cars are seemingly unsalvageable once they begin to spin (Danny Ric today, JP and others previously) , consensus seems to be that the shark's fin is the major contributory factor to this. Seems ironic given the fact that they were introduced in the WEC to enhance stability and to prevent low level flight.

Aesthetics is one thing, driver safety another, what's the money on an FIA in-season ban ?? 1969 all over again..

Its not aero causing that issue.

Its the tyre slip angle working range. The new tyres appear to have a smaller operating window on slip angle, so once you go over the tyre slip angle limit you lose grip rapidly.

In the good old days of crossply tyres, the slip angle range was very large, so you could see lots of sideways driving. Radial tyres have a smaller working range due to the tyre construction, it looks like these new wider tyres have a much smaller range than the previous generation.

Pirelli may have to rethink the tyre construction or we may see a lot more of these crashes where a relatively small slide isn't catchable.

On Sky Pat Symonds was just saying that past a certain angle the vortex behind the fin could stall the rear wing, which could explain why the accidents this week seemed to be 'ok.... catching it..... then a snap and into the barrier'

I'd be astonished if they managed to design in such a poor outcome from a yaw moment, I'm sticking to the tyres having a low slip angle working range.

[London424]

Morning, morning. I'm going to be fairly non controversial and say that first after T1 wins the race.

Not sure we'll get too much overtaking either, watching the on boards it's hard to see where anything could happen but fingers crossed we get a good race.

[Z3MCJez]

Teppic said:

Ricciardo' car is back in the pit garage, and he is getting back in the car, and should be able to start the race from the pit lane. According to Horner it was a sensor issue on the gearbox, rather than the gearbox itself.

NBC Sports is announcing that he's out. But it is NBC.

Jez

[TheOversteerLever]

Z3MCJez said:

NBC Sports is announcing that he's out. But it is NBC.

Jez

Looks like it's going to be a close call to get him out for the start.

[Z3MCJez]

Well, Ricciardo is back in his car anyway ...

Jez

[anonymous-user]

That's a big Sauber!

[TheOversteerLever]

Looks like a bit of a dodgy place to park that Sauber!

[Teppic]

Is anybody else's Sky box randomly bringing up the channel information? It's done it about 8 times during the formation lap and is starting to get on my tits.

[The Vambo]

Craig Scarborough‏ tweeting Ricciardo' car has been repaired.

[Z3MCJez]

Looks like something wrong at the back there. All good news for Danny!

[TheOversteerLever]

Teppic said:

Is anybody else's Sky box randomly bringing up the channel information? It's done it about 8 times during the formation lap and is starting to get on my tits.

Nope. All good here.

[anonymous-user]

Teppic said:

Is anybody else's Sky box randomly bringing up the channel information? It's done it about 8 times during the formation lap and is starting to get on my tits.

Switch it off and on again.

[RichB]

Have they done away with all the drivers lining up and singing the national anthem ?

[DanielSan]

If Vettel can go with Hamilton we're in for a good race

[Teppic]

jsf said:

Teppic said:

Is anybody else's Sky box randomly bringing up the channel information? It's done it about 8 times during the formation lap and is starting to get on my tits.

Switch it off and on again.

It seems to have settled down now.

Ricciardo now joins the race, two laps down.

[The Vambo]

Perfect start by Hamilton but Seb has him matched for pace

[TheOversteerLever]

Should be good to see Ricciardo make his way through the pack.

[Z3MCJez]

TheOversteerLever said:

Should be good to see Ricciardo make his way through the pack.

He's 2 laps down. He won't be allowed to race them.

Jez

[Douglas Arfempty]

TheOversteerLever said:

Should be good to see Ricciardo make his way through the pack.

Twice