The Official 2017 Australian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

[cuprabob]

F1 has not been the same since Bernie left...

[Cobnapint]

K50 DEL said:

Cracking race, brilliant to have such uncertainty.
Really enjoyed that, hope the rest of the season is as interesting.

You talking about this race, yeah? The Australian GP.

Cracking?

You mispelt 'shocking'.

OK, a red car won instead of a slivery green one. But Jesus. The sum total of the most powerful brains in Formula 1 have conspired to give us even LESS of what the main problem was in the first place - genuine overtaking manoeuvres.

[anonymous-user]

F1GTRUeno said:

Who came up with these new regulations?

Was it the FIA? F1 Group? The teams/manufacturers?

Surely couldn't have been the drivers.

When you see one car on the track on it's own it looks a lot better than in pictures because the sense of speed is there and they look imposing but once you get a bunch they make the track look tiny because they're massive, the fins are abominations and of course, they're utterly boring and processional whilst racing.

Who the fk thought 'yeah this is what the fans want'?

They are still 150mm narrower than a 1982 F1 car.

[Evilex]

Just trying to watch it on catch-up. I get 4 secs of the c4 logo, 8 seconds of the titles, a quick flash of the beginning of the kayak advertising, and it resets to the menu.
Rinse, repeat on each successive attempt. Laughably poor.

[DannyL]

Probably the worst telecast of a F1 race I have ever seen, and I've been watching for over 30 years. The on screen displays were a problem from the first practice and they were unable to solve them in 3 days? The normally affable Martin Brundle sounded and appeared angry all the time and Ted Kravitz took every comment directed towards him as a personal insult. Symonds, who obviously has a wealth of knowledge and insight seemed lost in front of the camera.
Race itself was quite boring with the win being decided by the proper execution of a ferrari pit stop, but at least we had a change at the top...

[DanielSan]

jsf said:

They are still 150mm narrower than a 1982 F1 car.

It's more length that's the issue, a single seater really doesn't need to be a similar length to a long wheel base Mercedes Sprinter yet that's how massive they look.

[Fire99]

DanielSan said:

jsf said:

They are still 150mm narrower than a 1982 F1 car.

It's more length that's the issue, a single seater really doesn't need to be a similar length to a long wheel base Mercedes Sprinter yet that's how massive they look.

They did unfortunately makes the car longer (on an already very long F1 car) on top of wider for 2017

[thegreenhell]

Fire99 said:

DanielSan said:

jsf said:

They are still 150mm narrower than a 1982 F1 car.

It's more length that's the issue, a single seater really doesn't need to be a similar length to a long wheel base Mercedes Sprinter yet that's how massive they look.

They did unfortunately makes the car longer (on an already very long F1 car) on top of wider for 2017

Notice how Bottas couldn't even drive out of his pit garage without needing to do a three-point turn. They had to wheel him into the pit lane on dollies.

Longer wheelbase than a Rolls Royce Phantom limo... http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...

[anonymous-user]

WJNB said:

We no longer live in a world where free speech is allowed so no way are you going to get an accurate or honest reply to that question. Ask in private away from big eared PC nosey parkers.
Observing the body language of other drivers when they are in his vicinity provides some clues as to his popularity.
And how boringly predictable he trotted out the same old patronising "I must than the team for getting me on pole ......... blah blah blah blah". Some team that cocked up the boys pit stop eh?
I had stopped watching the race earlier as boredom had set in.

In what way did the team cock up the pit stop?

Lewis:

"I was catching some back markers and the car started to slide around a lot and the gap was reducing behind me and I was like, 'Guys I have to come in now or I'm probably going to get overtaken on track.'
"I pitted not knowing the gap between the other cars. I came out behind some other cars which I couldn't get by. I said to the team I had to come in because the tyres were dead."

[markcoznottz]

Evilex said:

Just trying to watch it on catch-up. I get 4 secs of the c4 logo, 8 seconds of the titles, a quick flash of the beginning of the kayak advertising, and it resets to the menu.
Rinse, repeat on each successive attempt. Laughably poor.

Not a patch on iplayer, and also not always hd, despite what they say.

[em177]

cuprabob said:

F1 has not been the same since Bernie left...

[dr_gn]

Evilex said:

Just trying to watch it on catch-up. I get 4 secs of the c4 logo, 8 seconds of the titles, a quick flash of the beginning of the kayak advertising, and it resets to the menu.
Rinse, repeat on each successive attempt. Laughably poor.

It's fine - youre watching the highlights show there - in full. Basically it was so bad there was nothing to show.

[rallycross]

Watched it on catch up, thought the new cars look good, look quicker in the corners and sound great.
Was a boring race after 5 laps watched most of it on x12 speed was very little action, nice to see a non Mercedes winner.

[EDLT]

WJNB said:

We no longer live in a world where free speech is allowed so no way are you going to get an accurate or honest reply to that question. Ask in private away from big eared PC nosey parkers.
Observing the body language of other drivers when they are in his vicinity provides some clues as to his popularity.
And how boringly predictable he trotted out the same old patronising "I must than the team for getting me on pole ......... blah blah blah blah". Some team that cocked up the boys pit stop eh?
I had stopped watching the race earlier as boredom had set in.

"I don't know" would suffice. If you thought the race was boring why come back for the always thrilling podium interviews?

[HardtopManual]

iwantagta said:

Did anyone else think the sky coverage was st today with regard to replays etc?

No, I thought it was st because the mong Croft was shouting all over it about how nice the pretty colours are on the cars.

[Z3MCJez]

DanielSan said:

It's more length that's the issue, a single seater really doesn't need to be a similar length to a long wheel base Mercedes Sprinter yet that's how massive they look.

I don't know why they need to be longer than last year but the increase compared to the 80s comes from the fact that drivers feet have to be behind the front axle line. Which has definitely saved some ankles.

[DanielSan]

I'm not disputing the safety aspect, but early 00's cars were managing to be safe without being quite so long.

[PhillipM]

Harder packaging requirements with these power units, and given how well they can seal the floors these days being long is an advantage as a larger floor = more downforce.

If it were me I'd limit the wheelbase about a metre shorter, lets have twitchy cars back

[Vocal Minority]

Glad it wasn't just me who thought that Brundle was a perma-grump. David Croft is not good - I like to think I could do better

[Leggy]

I've never understood why they develop the cars to run in clean air. Most are driving in the wake of another. Only the guy leaving or has a massive gap ahead actually run in the clean air.
The DRS or something similar should be allowed to compensate for this and used anywhere on the track.