The Official 2017 Australian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

The Official 2017 Australian Grand Prix Thread **Spoilers**

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Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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So, who was sandbagging in testing? Because someone was bound to be.

My predictions:

McHonda will retire both cars inside 10 laps, perhaps even 5.
Ferrari will be quick, but so will Mercedes and Red Bull and there will be a surprisingly quick midfield car - Williams perhaps?

Sauber to be the tail enders this season? Since we've no rolling Manor roadblock.

HustleRussell

24,691 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Tyre Smoke said:

Sauber to be the tail enders this season? Since we've no rolling Manor roadblock.
Sauber bringing up the rear IMO, HAAS to have a difficult second season and finish 9th.

As for quick in the midfield- I reckon the Williams will shade the Force India this year but the Torro Rossos will be right back up there IMO after a couple of forgettable seasons with old Ferrari engines.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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rdjohn said:
The only important message from pre-season testing is - DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!
Or post-race for pretty much every race last season, where all the F1 media hyped up the 'Ferrari challenge' that never materialized.

It's in the sports interest to suggest it won't be a one horse race, even 10 races into the season when it very clearly is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Tyre Smoke said:
So, who was sandbagging in testing?
They all were. Even Sauber and McLaren.

Otispunkmeyer

12,589 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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jsf said:
Tyre Smoke said:
So, who was sandbagging in testing?
They all were. Even Sauber and McLaren.
Yes but McLaren are probably the only ones not intentionally sandbagging.

In fact, I bet they could only dream of "sandbagging" because what they're currently doing is "boat-anchoring".

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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But if they weren't sandbagging, McLaren seem to have taken last year's technology and made it even less quick and even less reliable!

Surely they spent a good proportion of last season at Honda building and testing a power unit to this year's spec. How could they possibly make it worse than last year's engine?

BrettMRC

4,086 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Tyre Smoke said:
But if they weren't sandbagging, McLaren seem to have taken last year's technology and made it even less quick and even less reliable!

Surely they spent a good proportion of last season at Honda building and testing a power unit to this year's spec. How could they possibly make it worse than last year's engine?
Because the Honda execs are a little bit like the North Korean leadership.... its their vision on no vision! nuts

patmahe

5,749 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Dr Z said:
patmahe said:
When do the teams start turning up for a GP? I'm getting twitchy waiting for the race at weekend and seeing photos of transporters in Melbourne might just keep me in check smile
They are at the circuit!

Photos from here: http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/fotos-...
Ahh, that'll hold me cheers smile

deadslow

7,999 posts

223 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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McLaren could have formed a strategic engine partnership with Qualcast and still gone faster than the McHonda frown

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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HustleRussell said:
Sauber bringing up the rear IMO, HAAS to have a difficult second season and finish 9th.

As for quick in the midfield- I reckon the Williams will shade the Force India this year but the Torro Rossos will be right back up there IMO after a couple of forgettable seasons with old Ferrari engines.
I guess the only good news is that all 10 teams are assured a payout which might help financial predictability for this year?

8/9/10 to be battled out by Haas/Sauber/McLaren?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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deadslow said:
McLaren could have formed a strategic engine partnership with Qualcast and still gone faster than the McHonda frown
Briggs and Stratton surely? If only for the heritage!

HustleRussell

24,691 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Vaud said:
I guess the only good news is that all 10 teams are assured a payout which might help financial predictability for this year?

8/9/10 to be battled out by Haas/Sauber/McLaren?
yes I am optimistic that McLaren will improve dramatically in season but who other than Sauber and HAAS are they likely to beat? The works Renault entry will be significantly improved so they and the rest should surely have a decent chance of scoring championship points with at least one car from the get go?


Derek Smith

45,655 posts

248 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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ash73 said:
Max for pole, Ricciardo to win the race and 2017 WDC. Roll on Sunday, looking forward to it!
I'm quite excited by the new regulations as well as the new bosses. Their YouTube presence seems a positive - despite some taking the mickey on here - and one can hope for some serious innovations, rather than just catching up with the turn of the millennium.

Mind you, F1's a bit like Ferrari; don't believe the pre-season hype.

Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Blackpuddin said:
Wonder if anyone at McLaren has talked to Ricardo about them doing a nice little F1 engine? Given that they build most of their road car engines.
Neither McLaren or Ricardo have the money to compete. They would be 4/5 years behind Mercedes without the resources or technical knowledge. Revamping an old Nissan design for the road is a whole different ballgame to a modern F1 engine.


ash73 said:
Max for pole, Ricciardo to win the race and 2017 WDC. Roll on Sunday, looking forward to it!
I don't think Marko would let that happen, Max is the blue eyed boy for the moment.

dave0010

1,381 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Getting very excited for this race this year. Even more so because I live just around the corner from the track. Off for a morning run to see if i can do a lap around it before the close it all up for the day.

Anyone else on this forum from Melbourne or in Melbourne planning on going and seeing it??

another 3 points

936 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Will your lap round the park be faster then the McLarens?

lee_fr200

5,477 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I reckon mclaren will be more competitive than ppl think

They've had 2 weeks of working flat out on sorting the issues! 2 weeks is a long time in the F1 world

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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lee_fr200 said:
I reckon mclaren will be more competitive than ppl think

They've had 2 weeks of working flat out on sorting the issues! 2 weeks is a long time in the F1 world
Yeah it's about as long as mclaren will take to finish a race.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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lee_fr200 said:
I reckon mclaren will be more competitive than ppl think

They've had 2 weeks of working flat out on sorting the issues! 2 weeks is a long time in the F1 world
So is 3 years.

It hasn't been enough.

dave0010

1,381 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I got to the track but wasn't able to complete a lap, maybe I have some mclaren blood in me!!