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cb1965 said:
FurballS2000 said:
shirt said:
Lewis for WDC and Ferrari for WCC feels about right to me, but with more drivers than this year taking wins and podiums and the midfield battle being even more fierce than this year. Roll on 2019z
Out of interest, does anyone know how many times have the WDC and WCC gone to different teams?1958
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My drivers of the season: Hamilton (obvs); Alonso for securing McLaren 6th in Constructors Championship - they had no right to be there - consistent stellar performances in that dog; Hulkenburg for comfortably being 'Best of the Rest' and annihilating Sainz
Stick Hulkenburg in that Mercedes and he'd be a multiple world champion.
Bottas, far too average an F1 driver. But Mercedes have great harmony with him being number two and Lewis is a mentally better space with him as team-mate.
I wouldn't be surprised if Renault leapfrog Red Bull next year.
Charles Leclerc to live up to his well-deserved hype - he's the real deal and another special lad. Very level-headed, mature wheel-to-wheel battles with Alonso and others this year that belied his age and experience.
I don't get a few of the comments about not missing Alonso in F1 next year; must be bitterness. Most F1 fans love what he brings to race weekend, regardless of his nationality or personality. He always delivers. The best all-rounder and most consistent performer in recent times on race day.
Stick Hulkenburg in that Mercedes and he'd be a multiple world champion.
Bottas, far too average an F1 driver. But Mercedes have great harmony with him being number two and Lewis is a mentally better space with him as team-mate.
I wouldn't be surprised if Renault leapfrog Red Bull next year.
Charles Leclerc to live up to his well-deserved hype - he's the real deal and another special lad. Very level-headed, mature wheel-to-wheel battles with Alonso and others this year that belied his age and experience.
I don't get a few of the comments about not missing Alonso in F1 next year; must be bitterness. Most F1 fans love what he brings to race weekend, regardless of his nationality or personality. He always delivers. The best all-rounder and most consistent performer in recent times on race day.
TobyTR said:
Charles Leclerc to live up to his well-deserved hype - he's the real deal and another special lad. Very level-headed, mature wheel-to-wheel battles with Alonso and others this year that belied his age and experience.
I agree with pretty much everything everyone else has said. I'm bit more negative about Seb just because I felt like he gave up and the true greats know when to dig in and fight harder.On Leclerc I'm really looking forward to him being at the front. The others don't really have any experience racing him so it'll be interesting to see how they all do wheel to wheel, especially against Max. 2 extremely hungry young drivers with amazing talent going for it is what F1 should be and I just hope it's everything it should be.
Edited by poing on Wednesday 28th November 21:19
My opinion is that, to be honest, the first half of 2018 was fantastic. The second half proved to be more of a procession as Vettel just seemed to go off the boil.
Not a Hamilton fan, but he's been far more magnanimous this year than previous years. One of the reasons I took such a dislike to him was his comment regarding Rosberg and who out of the two of them were more deserving of the title. Rosberg who grew up in Monaco or Hamilton who grew up on a council estate. I never grew up on a council estate, but the bit of a house my parents bought and worked hard all their life for was nothing compared to where he grew up.
McLaren have several ostrich eggs on their face. They never had the chassis in the first place, and they've been left wanting. However, they also showed how good a driver Alonso is with the results he produced compared to Vandoorne. I don't think Vettel or Hamilton could do the same. And F1 is poorer without Alonso.
Verstappen has shown he's just a man child. He hasn't matured, he hasn't grown up, and so far unless Hamilton, Vettel, LeClerc or whoever is in a better car than him have huge accidents where they don't race for months, Verstappen will not be a champion. He doesn't have the maturity for it.
Red Bull are suffering from FOMO, and they've lost Ricciardo as a result. He would be a better bet as World Champion than Verstappen. I would also question really whether or not Red Bull gave both of them equal footing this year considering the sheer amount of bad luck Ricciardo had compared to the Dutch baby.
Williams dropped an absolute b
k this year with their car, and I don't think the way they sacked the people responsible was the right approach. Claire, I feel, is out of her depth. Paddy Lowe isn't the saviour he thought he was. Smedley leaving is going to affect them greatly. Kubica should've been given more track time this year too, in practice obviously.
I am going to miss Channel 4's coverage, I really am. I've seen the Sky coverage once or twice and it's just not right. But hopefully Liberty Media will soon right the Eccelstone wrong and bring it back to free-to-air and we get the C4 coverage back (which, I have to add, has been far better than the BBC coverage somehow. Would quite like Suzi Perry back though).
Not a Hamilton fan, but he's been far more magnanimous this year than previous years. One of the reasons I took such a dislike to him was his comment regarding Rosberg and who out of the two of them were more deserving of the title. Rosberg who grew up in Monaco or Hamilton who grew up on a council estate. I never grew up on a council estate, but the bit of a house my parents bought and worked hard all their life for was nothing compared to where he grew up.
McLaren have several ostrich eggs on their face. They never had the chassis in the first place, and they've been left wanting. However, they also showed how good a driver Alonso is with the results he produced compared to Vandoorne. I don't think Vettel or Hamilton could do the same. And F1 is poorer without Alonso.
Verstappen has shown he's just a man child. He hasn't matured, he hasn't grown up, and so far unless Hamilton, Vettel, LeClerc or whoever is in a better car than him have huge accidents where they don't race for months, Verstappen will not be a champion. He doesn't have the maturity for it.
Red Bull are suffering from FOMO, and they've lost Ricciardo as a result. He would be a better bet as World Champion than Verstappen. I would also question really whether or not Red Bull gave both of them equal footing this year considering the sheer amount of bad luck Ricciardo had compared to the Dutch baby.
Williams dropped an absolute b
k this year with their car, and I don't think the way they sacked the people responsible was the right approach. Claire, I feel, is out of her depth. Paddy Lowe isn't the saviour he thought he was. Smedley leaving is going to affect them greatly. Kubica should've been given more track time this year too, in practice obviously.I am going to miss Channel 4's coverage, I really am. I've seen the Sky coverage once or twice and it's just not right. But hopefully Liberty Media will soon right the Eccelstone wrong and bring it back to free-to-air and we get the C4 coverage back (which, I have to add, has been far better than the BBC coverage somehow. Would quite like Suzi Perry back though).
sgtBerbatov said:
My opinion is that, to be honest, the first half of 2018 was fantastic. The second half proved to be more of a procession as Vettel just seemed to go off the boil.
Not a Hamilton fan, but he's been far more magnanimous this year than previous years. One of the reasons I took such a dislike to him was his comment regarding Rosberg and who out of the two of them were more deserving of the title. Rosberg who grew up in Monaco or Hamilton who grew up on a council estate. I never grew up on a council estate, but the bit of a house my parents bought and worked hard all their life for was nothing compared to where he grew up.
McLaren have several ostrich eggs on their face. They never had the chassis in the first place, and they've been left wanting. However, they also showed how good a driver Alonso is with the results he produced compared to Vandoorne. I don't think Vettel or Hamilton could do the same. And F1 is poorer without Alonso.
Verstappen has shown he's just a man child. He hasn't matured, he hasn't grown up, and so far unless Hamilton, Vettel, LeClerc or whoever is in a better car than him have huge accidents where they don't race for months, Verstappen will not be a champion. He doesn't have the maturity for it.
Red Bull are suffering from FOMO, and they've lost Ricciardo as a result. He would be a better bet as World Champion than Verstappen. I would also question really whether or not Red Bull gave both of them equal footing this year considering the sheer amount of bad luck Ricciardo had compared to the Dutch baby.
Williams dropped an absolute bk this year with their car, and I don't think the way they sacked the people responsible was the right approach. Claire, I feel, is out of her depth. Paddy Lowe isn't the saviour he thought he was. Smedley leaving is going to affect them greatly. Kubica should've been given more track time this year too, in practice obviously.
I am going to miss Channel 4's coverage, I really am. I've seen the Sky coverage once or twice and it's just not right. But hopefully Liberty Media will soon right the Eccelstone wrong and bring it back to free-to-air and we get the C4 coverage back (which, I have to add, has been far better than the BBC coverage somehow. Would quite like Suzi Perry back though).
+1 agreedNot a Hamilton fan, but he's been far more magnanimous this year than previous years. One of the reasons I took such a dislike to him was his comment regarding Rosberg and who out of the two of them were more deserving of the title. Rosberg who grew up in Monaco or Hamilton who grew up on a council estate. I never grew up on a council estate, but the bit of a house my parents bought and worked hard all their life for was nothing compared to where he grew up.
McLaren have several ostrich eggs on their face. They never had the chassis in the first place, and they've been left wanting. However, they also showed how good a driver Alonso is with the results he produced compared to Vandoorne. I don't think Vettel or Hamilton could do the same. And F1 is poorer without Alonso.
Verstappen has shown he's just a man child. He hasn't matured, he hasn't grown up, and so far unless Hamilton, Vettel, LeClerc or whoever is in a better car than him have huge accidents where they don't race for months, Verstappen will not be a champion. He doesn't have the maturity for it.
Red Bull are suffering from FOMO, and they've lost Ricciardo as a result. He would be a better bet as World Champion than Verstappen. I would also question really whether or not Red Bull gave both of them equal footing this year considering the sheer amount of bad luck Ricciardo had compared to the Dutch baby.
Williams dropped an absolute b
k this year with their car, and I don't think the way they sacked the people responsible was the right approach. Claire, I feel, is out of her depth. Paddy Lowe isn't the saviour he thought he was. Smedley leaving is going to affect them greatly. Kubica should've been given more track time this year too, in practice obviously.I am going to miss Channel 4's coverage, I really am. I've seen the Sky coverage once or twice and it's just not right. But hopefully Liberty Media will soon right the Eccelstone wrong and bring it back to free-to-air and we get the C4 coverage back (which, I have to add, has been far better than the BBC coverage somehow. Would quite like Suzi Perry back though).
sgtBerbatov said:
Red Bull are suffering from FOMO, and they've lost Ricciardo as a result. He would be a better bet as World Champion than Verstappen. I would also question really whether or not Red Bull gave both of them equal footing this year considering the sheer amount of bad luck Ricciardo had compared to the Dutch baby.
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