Fernando Alonso

Fernando Alonso

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Jasandjules

69,924 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th April
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Wow I never thought he'd get a deal that far ahead. Impressive stuff.

spikyone

1,466 posts

101 months

Friday 12th April
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I think this effectively confirms that Max won't be leaving Red Bull too - it always seemed unlikely and there's no way Alonso would've signed for Aston Martin if RB had that seat available.

Alonso and Russell would've likely been pretty combustible but I'm still surprised Toto didn't throw a suitcase of money at luring Fernando. I still struggle to get my head around the idea that Mercedes will put Antonelli into their car, it'd be a very risky move for a team that's made fairly conservative driver decisions all the way back to 2010. If Alonso's happy with a 2 year contract, surely they have a fatter chequebook than AM?

cuprabob

14,672 posts

215 months

Friday 12th April
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spikyone said:
I still struggle to get my head around the idea that Mercedes will put Antonelli into their car...
I don't think they will, they'll get him a seat at Williams and Sainz will partner Russell.

skwdenyer

16,524 posts

241 months

Friday 12th April
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spikyone said:
I think this effectively confirms that Max won't be leaving Red Bull too - it always seemed unlikely and there's no way Alonso would've signed for Aston Martin if RB had that seat available.

Alonso and Russell would've likely been pretty combustible but I'm still surprised Toto didn't throw a suitcase of money at luring Fernando. I still struggle to get my head around the idea that Mercedes will put Antonelli into their car, it'd be a very risky move for a team that's made fairly conservative driver decisions all the way back to 2010. If Alonso's happy with a 2 year contract, surely they have a fatter chequebook than AM?
It isn't impossible that Toto *did* offer a suitcase of money, and that Fernando used that in order to obtain a better deal from Lance...

Hustle_

24,724 posts

161 months

Friday 12th April
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skwdenyer said:
It isn't impossible that Toto *did* offer a suitcase of money, and that Fernando used that in order to obtain a better deal from Lance...
What was he trying to negotiate from Lance? A bit of sporting competition?

Zarco

17,891 posts

210 months

Friday 12th April
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nnnitram said:
This is a risky move from AM and I'm surprised they've done it. The man has defied the odds so far, but time makes fools of us all. Look at how Valentino Rossi almost instantly fell off the pace around this age.
He fell off because the tyre characteristics changed more than anything. Bit like Vettel fell off when the cars went from V8s with blown diffusers to the hybrids.

I think this is a good move by AM. He's still got it.

nnnitram

36 posts

2 months

Friday 12th April
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Zarco said:
He fell off because the tyre characteristics changed more than anything. Bit like Vettel fell off when the cars went from V8s with blown diffusers to the hybrids.

I think this is a good move by AM. He's still got it.
He fell off because of age. Like every other person who has ever existed.

Mark-C

5,138 posts

206 months

Friday 12th April
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nnnitram said:
Zarco said:
He fell off because the tyre characteristics changed more than anything. Bit like Vettel fell off when the cars went from V8s with blown diffusers to the hybrids.

I think this is a good move by AM. He's still got it.
He fell off because of age. Like every other person who has ever existed.
I turned 60 on Wednesday and refuse to believe this biggrin

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Friday 12th April
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spikyone said:
I think this effectively confirms that Max won't be leaving Red Bull too - it always seemed unlikely ....
That was never ever going to happen. I can't believe people even discussed it.

Muzzer79

10,042 posts

188 months

Friday 12th April
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Frimley111R said:
spikyone said:
I think this effectively confirms that Max won't be leaving Red Bull too - it always seemed unlikely ....
That was never ever going to happen. I can't believe people even discussed it.
I'm not so sure

He was maybe not going to move this year, but the Red Bull war is definitely not over and Max appears to firmly be in 'Team Austria' as opposed to 'Team Thailand'.

It certainly wasn't likely he would leave....but I'd not say it was impossible.

WPA

8,838 posts

115 months

Friday 12th April
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Surprised to see him staying with AM, would be interesting to know what Honda feel about it in view of past issues.

PRO5T

3,964 posts

26 months

Friday 12th April
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I seriously doubt Honda will have anything in their AM deal that says they get a vote in who the drivers are.

deadslow

8,009 posts

224 months

Friday 12th April
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WPA said:
Surprised to see him staying with AM, would be interesting to know what Honda feel about it in view of past issues.
not bothered

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/honda-says-alon...

thegreenhell

15,400 posts

220 months

Friday 12th April
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I don't think most rational adults would hold a grudge that long. Even Ron Dennis hired Alonso a second time after Spygate.

Muzzer79

10,042 posts

188 months

Friday 12th April
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PRO5T said:
I seriously doubt Honda will have anything in their AM deal that says they get a vote in who the drivers are.
You think Yuki Tsunoda was brought in to Toro Rosso for his boyish good looks?

He never did anything spectacular in his junior career.

Honda don't call the shots, but don't be surprised if a Japanese is involved somehow.

deadslow

8,009 posts

224 months

Friday 12th April
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thegreenhell said:
I don't think most rational adults would hold a grudge that long. Even Ron Dennis hired Alonso a second time after Spygate.
Ron always said - show me a good loser and I'll show you a LOSER. Once the dust settled I don't think Ron will have borne a grudge.

Zarco

17,891 posts

210 months

Friday 12th April
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deadslow said:
thegreenhell said:
I don't think most rational adults would hold a grudge that long. Even Ron Dennis hired Alonso a second time after Spygate.
Ron always said - show me a good loser and I'll show you a LOSER. Once the dust settled I don't think Ron will have borne a grudge.
Was Ron still in charge when Alonso went back to Mclaren? I thought he was gone.

thegreenhell

15,400 posts

220 months

Friday 12th April
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Zarco said:
deadslow said:
thegreenhell said:
I don't think most rational adults would hold a grudge that long. Even Ron Dennis hired Alonso a second time after Spygate.
Ron always said - show me a good loser and I'll show you a LOSER. Once the dust settled I don't think Ron will have borne a grudge.
Was Ron still in charge when Alonso went back to Mclaren? I thought he was gone.
Yes he returned as Team Principal betwern 2014-16, and hired Alonso starting in 2015.

Zarco

17,891 posts

210 months

Friday 12th April
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thegreenhell said:
Zarco said:
deadslow said:
thegreenhell said:
I don't think most rational adults would hold a grudge that long. Even Ron Dennis hired Alonso a second time after Spygate.
Ron always said - show me a good loser and I'll show you a LOSER. Once the dust settled I don't think Ron will have borne a grudge.
Was Ron still in charge when Alonso went back to Mclaren? I thought he was gone.
Yes he returned as Team Principal betwern 2014-16, and hired Alonso starting in 2015.
I stand corrected.

PRO5T

3,964 posts

26 months

Friday 12th April
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Muzzer79 said:
PRO5T said:
I seriously doubt Honda will have anything in their AM deal that says they get a vote in who the drivers are.
You think Yuki Tsunoda was brought in to Toro Rosso for his boyish good looks?

He never did anything spectacular in his junior career.

Honda don't call the shots, but don't be surprised if a Japanese is involved somehow.
It’ll be a discount on engines, they don’t get to choose. If RB didn’t want him there he wouldn’t be there.