Fernando Alonso
Discussion
patmahe said:
Rumours abound that Lawrence is doing everything he can to poach Newey from Red Bull.
Imagine Alonso in a Newey car, if Honda can deliver the goods then it could finally be World Championship number 3 for Alonso, I don't think many would say he doesn't deserve one based on talent.
I dunno - he couldn't beat rookie LH in the same car in 2007!Imagine Alonso in a Newey car, if Honda can deliver the goods then it could finally be World Championship number 3 for Alonso, I don't think many would say he doesn't deserve one based on talent.
He seems over-rated IMHO, and has pulled some dodgy manoeuvres already this season.
Mr Tidy said:
I dunno - he couldn't beat rookie LH in the same car in 2007!
He seems over-rated IMHO, and has pulled some dodgy manoeuvres already this season.
That was 17 years ago, holding on to stuff like that like that isn't good for you.He seems over-rated IMHO, and has pulled some dodgy manoeuvres already this season.
Alonso absolutely still has it, however much his teammate being a completely incompetent a
hole helps him look better. He knows he's in a good place that's got potential as a works Honda team in '26 with the new rules. AM just need to kick Lance out if they want a chance of winning the constructors trophy too.I find it amazing that in this day and age, it is considered almost shocking that a driver can still be competitive in F1 in his 40's. And yet we had Fangio racing until he was nearly 50 in the 50's.
With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I find it amazing that in this day and age, it is considered almost shocking that a driver can still be competitive in F1 in his 40's. And yet we had Fangio racing until he was nearly 50 in the 50's.
With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Oh please, Fangio’s car couldn’t pull 1G on a turn! Today it’s 5! The physical stress is on another level and the mental reaction is extreme. With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I find it amazing that in this day and age, it is considered almost shocking that a driver can still be competitive in F1 in his 40's. And yet we had Fangio racing until he was nearly 50 in the 50's.
I suspect that is because they are pulling 3g in corners etc.... and higher in some circuits. That is quite a lot of abuse to take...Kart16 said:
Oh please, Fangio’s car couldn’t pull 1G on a turn! Today it’s 5! The physical stress is on another level and the mental reaction is extreme.
it was significantly more dangerous though. Whilst the cars pull big G, the drivers don't find them that demanding due to power steering and the like.Kart16 said:
Oh please, Fangio’s car couldn’t pull 1G on a turn! Today it’s 5! The physical stress is on another level and the mental reaction is extreme.
Different physical challenges back in the 50s The cars were physical to drive in other ways. No belts so generally you were hanging on the the steering wheel or wedging yourself in some other physical way.
No power steering, manual gear changes with a wavy lever
You were sat behind that big lump up front generating a lot of heat that came back at you.
The grand prix races could be a lot longer both distance and time. Very few races in a season though.
The drivers would race all sorts of stuff, not just the Grand prix cars.
Fangio did some pretty gruelling road races, over 6000 miles long in one event. He didn't start in grand prix racing until he was in his 30s.
Very different times and Fangio was very much one of the exceptions. Not least of which was the sheer number of drivers killed before retiring.
The sport has changed, the revolving door of "new talent" is very much in vogue, especially when the old successful talent come at a cost, not always financial.
Kart16 said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I find it amazing that in this day and age, it is considered almost shocking that a driver can still be competitive in F1 in his 40's. And yet we had Fangio racing until he was nearly 50 in the 50's.
With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Oh please, Fangio’s car couldn’t pull 1G on a turn! Today it’s 5! The physical stress is on another level and the mental reaction is extreme. With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Someone like Alonso or Hamilton could easily race and be competitive until that age if they wanted to. By that age it becomes more a question of motivation, and other faculties like eyesight, rather than pure physical fitness.
thegreenhell said:
Kart16 said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I find it amazing that in this day and age, it is considered almost shocking that a driver can still be competitive in F1 in his 40's. And yet we had Fangio racing until he was nearly 50 in the 50's.
With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Oh please, Fangio’s car couldn’t pull 1G on a turn! Today it’s 5! The physical stress is on another level and the mental reaction is extreme. With improvement in health and lifestyle, we live longer anyway, so 40 is the new 30, and if you still want it, you can still do it.
Loads of NASCAR drivers competing in their 50's even.
It's not how old you are, but how old you feel.
He's clearly dedicated, possibly a bit autistic, but he can win in the right car.
Someone like Alonso or Hamilton could easily race and be competitive until that age if they wanted to. By that age it becomes more a question of motivation, and other faculties like eyesight, rather than pure physical fitness.
That and something to do with the inner ear & balance degrading around the age of 40 which feeds into feeling what the car is doing under you (or not!)
Obviously its not consistent between drivers, some will get hit by it earlier than others.
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