Daniel Ricciardo

Daniel Ricciardo

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paulguitar

23,438 posts

113 months

Tuesday 26th March
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matrignano said:
He tested on the 11th of July, 2 days after the Silverstone GP / 3 days after Quali.
Temps a few degrees higher on the day of his test according to Accuweather, not sure about cloud cover though and therefore track temp.
He was reportedly testing 2025 spec tyres which are meant to be harder than the contemporaneous rubber.

Ergo, his time was really very good!?
So, what's happened since then?


thegreenhell

15,354 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th March
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suffolk009 said:
Zetec-S said:
Max, Carlos, Daniel, Gasly, Albon & Yuki?

1/4 or 1/3 is still pretty impressive either way.
As PRO5T kindly pointed out above, Max was not a Young Red Bull driver. He joined them in Aug 2014, before racing with Torro Rosso in 2015.

The stats I'm referring to are for the number of WDCs the Red Bull Academy has produced. It appears, if we exclude Max, that just one WDC has been nurtured through their high profile "academy".
Also, Albon was a RB Junior for only one season of F-Renault in 2012, after which he was dropped from the programme. He had no connection to RB after that until he was signed for STR in 2019, when Red Bull had run out of other drivers to put in their cars.

thegreenhell

15,354 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th March
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paulguitar said:
matrignano said:
He tested on the 11th of July, 2 days after the Silverstone GP / 3 days after Quali.
Temps a few degrees higher on the day of his test according to Accuweather, not sure about cloud cover though and therefore track temp.
He was reportedly testing 2025 spec tyres which are meant to be harder than the contemporaneous rubber.

Ergo, his time was really very good!?
So, what's happened since then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEuw2mgLRuQ

TheDeuce

21,565 posts

66 months

Tuesday 26th March
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paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mr. D.

I believe you owe my charity of choice £10.
What was the bet again, I can't remember the terms rofl


paulguitar

23,438 posts

113 months

Tuesday 26th March
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TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mr. D.

I believe you owe my charity of choice £10.
What was the bet again, I can't remember the terms rofl
The bet was that I would resist responding to the 'kart' troll throughout the GP weekend and for 24 hours afterwards. I nominate the RNLI as it was my late stepfather's favourite charity, and 'kart' is all at sea.

Thanks in advance.

smile

Muzzer79

9,979 posts

187 months

Tuesday 26th March
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paulguitar said:
matrignano said:
He tested on the 11th of July, 2 days after the Silverstone GP / 3 days after Quali.
Temps a few degrees higher on the day of his test according to Accuweather, not sure about cloud cover though and therefore track temp.
He was reportedly testing 2025 spec tyres which are meant to be harder than the contemporaneous rubber.

Ergo, his time was really very good!?
So, what's happened since then?
From an outsider's view - he seems to get drawn into a setup black hole that either turns out great (seldomly) or not great (often)

Mexico last year was great. This year he's clearly struggling more to get it in the window.

It is really odd how this seems to affect him more than others.

TheDeuce

21,565 posts

66 months

Tuesday 26th March
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paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mr. D.

I believe you owe my charity of choice £10.
What was the bet again, I can't remember the terms rofl
The bet was that I would resist responding to the 'kart' troll throughout the GP weekend and for 24 hours afterwards. I nominate the RNLI as it was my late stepfather's favourite charity, and 'kart' is all at sea.

Thanks in advance.

smile
AHH yes!!! biggrin

Happy to pay £10 for you to ignore him - although I think he's been banned anyway so I'll deny you winning on merit whistle

I'm out and about, I'll make the donation this evening smile

paulguitar

23,438 posts

113 months

Tuesday 26th March
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TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mr. D.

I believe you owe my charity of choice £10.
What was the bet again, I can't remember the terms rofl
The bet was that I would resist responding to the 'kart' troll throughout the GP weekend and for 24 hours afterwards. I nominate the RNLI as it was my late stepfather's favourite charity, and 'kart' is all at sea.

Thanks in advance.

smile
AHH yes!!! biggrin

Happy to pay £10 for you to ignore him - although I think he's been banned anyway so I'll deny you winning on merit whistle

I'm out and about, I'll make the donation this evening smile
beer

usn90

1,419 posts

70 months

Tuesday 26th March
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It’s quite something with Dan, he did very well during his RB years, and the occasional good result in the alpine.

The only explanation I can come to is he just isn’t good at adapting, I recall during his alpine transition him saying he was struggling with how the car braked compared to his redbulls, and that he was having to change how he approached the corner to compensate, add in the battering lando gave him.

Think he’s just tried to adapt himself too many times and has now lost his strengths, too many team changes in short space of time for him personally.

it could well be neweys designs flattered his driving style, which would also explain his filming day at Silverstone, I’m more than aware the difference a different day can make, however it’s important to bare in mind here that the track would have been much fresher in terms of rubbered in, during a race weekend, than it would have been a few days after, plus you would have thought the engineers/ Horner, would be clued up with this.


entropy

5,443 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th March
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usn90 said:
The only explanation I can come to is he just isn’t good at adapting, I recall during his alpine transition him saying he was struggling with how the car braked compared to his redbulls, and that he was having to change how he approached the corner to compensate, add in the battering lando gave him.
He struggled initially at Alpine but soon came on top of it and was beating Hulk and now the shoe is on the other foot and there are people who think Hulk could do a better job...

usn90

1,419 posts

70 months

Tuesday 26th March
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Yes, but like I said, I think he struggles with adapting, you get drivers performing from the get go who have been drafted in last minute, max won first time out in the rb after jumping straight out the toro rosso.

It’s reasonably clear that it was when he jumped into the McLaren that things went sour for him, he struggled all whilst getting slapped left right and centre by lando.
The taunts he gave lando beforehand and the massive difference in salary relative to performance of the two didn’t help with the media side of things.

he didn’t just lose “it” overnight, the constant battering, and changes he made to his driving technique have all contributed to the decline we see today, even Horner said he wasn’t the same driver when he came back

OnDaysLikeThese

38 posts

9 months

Tuesday 26th March
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I’m no expert, and people in this thread have contributed in more detail than I’ll ever be able to, but surely the inescapable conclusion is that he’s washed up.

It’s been a long time since he could be considered a consistently good performer, and it looks like it’ll be no different at RB2.

An expensive mistake on the part of McLaren, I’m very happy for them that they have Piastri instead.

I wish him no ill will but I’d be glad to see the back of him if it means I never again have to hear ‘last of the late brakers’…

Edited by OnDaysLikeThese on Tuesday 26th March 13:44

maz8062

2,245 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th March
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He made a conscious decision to chase the cash when he realised that Max was the future and had the measure of him. He chased the cash to Alpine, he shouldn’t have left, and chased the cash at McLaren. This will be his last drive in F1 and he’s a rich man.

Who’s laughing now .

vaud

50,510 posts

155 months

Tuesday 26th March
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maz8062 said:
He made a conscious decision to chase the cash when he realised that Max was the future and had the measure of him. He chased the cash to Alpine, he shouldn’t have left, and chased the cash at McLaren. This will be his last drive in F1 and he’s a rich man.

Who’s laughing now .
I suspect as a racer he would swap a lot of that money for 1 WDC.

Derek Smith

45,664 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th March
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That was a quick two week.

Sorry to see him go. The grid will be less fun with him gone, but I understand why.

matrignano

4,370 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th March
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Derek Smith said:
That was a quick two week.

Sorry to see him go. The grid will be less fun with him gone, but I understand why.
He’s only being replaced for FP1

spikyone

1,457 posts

100 months

Tuesday 26th March
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entropy said:
usn90 said:
The only explanation I can come to is he just isn’t good at adapting, I recall during his alpine transition him saying he was struggling with how the car braked compared to his redbulls, and that he was having to change how he approached the corner to compensate, add in the battering lando gave him.
He struggled initially at Alpine but soon came on top of it and was beating Hulk and now the shoe is on the other foot and there are people who think Hulk could do a better job...
Hulk's another driver in the same mould as Danny Ric IMO, massively popular with the public but not really done much performance-wise to justify his name being thrown into the hat every time a top team has a vacancy. I guess we like an underdog; if Hulk were actually any good you'd suspect a top team would have hired him before now.

TheDeuce

21,565 posts

66 months

Tuesday 26th March
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paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
paulguitar said:
TheDeuce said:
Mr. D.

I believe you owe my charity of choice £10.
What was the bet again, I can't remember the terms rofl
The bet was that I would resist responding to the 'kart' troll throughout the GP weekend and for 24 hours afterwards. I nominate the RNLI as it was my late stepfather's favourite charity, and 'kart' is all at sea.

Thanks in advance.

smile
AHH yes!!! biggrin

Happy to pay £10 for you to ignore him - although I think he's been banned anyway so I'll deny you winning on merit whistle

I'm out and about, I'll make the donation this evening smile
beer


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paulguitar

23,438 posts

113 months

Tuesday 26th March
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TheDeuce said:


Pleasure doing business with you!
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beer

skwdenyer

16,501 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th March
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matrignano said:
Derek Smith said:
That was a quick two week.

Sorry to see him go. The grid will be less fun with him gone, but I understand why.
He’s only being replaced for FP1
Being - allegedly - given 2 races to shape up, and then denied a critical piece of running, rather suggests the writing’s on the wall.

I wonder how his simulator times compare with others’?