Sportsmanship - Does it exist in F1?

[FWIW]

Trolls are fascinating.

[DOCG]

Henson said:

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

You said yourself that such behaviour would be "fascinating", yet refuse to accept the possibility of far more likely events. Very irrational.

You make things up on a discussion forum.
And then accuse others of being irrational.

Okay.

I didn't make anything up.

DOCG said:

Just look at how he nearly drove Coulthard off the track at Monza when he had a clear run on him.

Your actual words.

What you claimed to happen - didn’t.

You made it up.

How can you say that?. When did you last watch the full race?

[DOCG]

FWIW said:

Trolls are fascinating.

I'm not a troll -_-

[Henson]

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

You said yourself that such behaviour would be "fascinating", yet refuse to accept the possibility of far more likely events. Very irrational.

You make things up on a discussion forum.
And then accuse others of being irrational.

Okay.

I didn't make anything up.

DOCG said:

Just look at how he nearly drove Coulthard off the track at Monza when he had a clear run on him.

Your actual words.

What you claimed to happen - didn’t.

You made it up.

How can you say that?. When did you last watch the full race?

Wasn’t me that made the made-up claim.

Prove me wrong.

[DOCG]

Henson said:

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

You said yourself that such behaviour would be "fascinating", yet refuse to accept the possibility of far more likely events. Very irrational.

You make things up on a discussion forum.
And then accuse others of being irrational.

Okay.

I didn't make anything up.

DOCG said:

Just look at how he nearly drove Coulthard off the track at Monza when he had a clear run on him.

Your actual words.

What you claimed to happen - didn’t.

You made it up.

How can you say that?. When did you last watch the full race?

Wasn’t me that made the made-up claim.

Prove me wrong.

Then on what basis do you say the claim is false? It's a false accusation.

[andyA700]

DOCG said:

paulguitar said:

DOCG said:

paulguitar said:

DOCG said:

His racing idol as a child was Senna, that should tell you something.

Hamilton is widely regarded as one of the fairest drivers on track throughout his career.


He's absolutely nothing like Senna. Or Schumacher.

I stopped watching F1 when they introduced the turbocharged lawnmower engines, and at that time Hamilton was considered a bit of a dirty driver and fairly regularly got into incidents with other drivers, I think 2011 was particularly bad.

So you haven't watched for 10 years, well over half of Hamilton's career.

Well, to educate you a bit, he's considered one of the cleanest drivers on track, and amongst multiple champions particularly clean.

I hate the hybrid engines too.

A leapard doesn't change it's spots. But having such a dominant car naturally means a driver is naturally less likely to come into conflict with others. I assume there's also no point in attempting risky overtakes through corners when they can just use DRS on the straights.

I didn't watch the races, but I read of numerous incidents regarding Hamilton in 2021.

I don't watch the races, but some guy on twitter met someone down the pub, whose besty had said that Lewis Hamilton was the dirtiest driver ever. Oh no, it might have been some guy down the pub knew all the F1 drivers and they all thought Lewis Hamilton was the dirtiest driver of all time.
Can you possibly link to these numerous "incidents" in 2021?

[andyA700]

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

Henson said:

DOCG said:

You said yourself that such behaviour would be "fascinating", yet refuse to accept the possibility of far more likely events. Very irrational.

You make things up on a discussion forum.
And then accuse others of being irrational.

Okay.

I didn't make anything up.

You said in an earlier post that you don't watch races, whereas I and many others on here, probably watch most F1 races, even if they are getting a bit boring nowadays.

DOCG said:

Just look at how he nearly drove Coulthard off the track at Monza when he had a clear run on him.

Your actual words.

What you claimed to happen - didn’t.

You made it up.

How can you say that?. When did you last watch the full race?

[Bo_apex]

DOCG said:

But what about the incident with Alonso in Hungary qualifying? The media fully blamed Alonso for it, and of course as an 11 year old I believed them. Then years later I found out that it was Hamilton who broke the internal team agreement to give Alonso the optimum qualifying lap (it alternated race-by-race), but the media never said a word about it! Alonso was simply portrayed as the villain for the rest of the season.

Marc Priestley did a YouTube video explaining the circumstances in detail.

Biased British media are very good at what they do

[PhilAsia]

Bo_apex said:

DOCG said:

But what about the incident with Alonso in Hungary qualifying? The media fully blamed Alonso for it, and of course as an 11 year old I believed them. Then years later I found out that it was Hamilton who broke the internal team agreement to give Alonso the optimum qualifying lap (it alternated race-by-race), but the media never said a word about it! Alonso was simply portrayed as the villain for the rest of the season.

Marc Priestley did a YouTube video explaining the circumstances in detail.

Biased British media are very good at what they do

Your constant anti-Hamilton bs, not so much?

[Bo_apex]

PhilAsia said:

Bo_apex said:

DOCG said:

But what about the incident with Alonso in Hungary qualifying? The media fully blamed Alonso for it, and of course as an 11 year old I believed them. Then years later I found out that it was Hamilton who broke the internal team agreement to give Alonso the optimum qualifying lap (it alternated race-by-race), but the media never said a word about it! Alonso was simply portrayed as the villain for the rest of the season.

Marc Priestley did a YouTube video explaining the circumstances in detail.

Biased British media are very good at what they do

Your constant anti-Hamilton bs, not so much?

Wake up - how blinkered are you ?

Alonso was racing against Mentor Ron, Protégé Lewis, and lobbyist Anthony.

Poor Fred had no chance but at least Uncle Ron got the Santander cash for the Spanish bloke

[paulguitar]

As usual, incorrect, Sparta.

Hamilton was better than Alonso, and nobody had expected that. (Aside from Hamilton and possibly his dad).

It was inconvenient for McLaren that Hamilton was pretty much instantly the class of the field. If he'd been 'merely' an excellent backup to Alosno, as everyone had expected from him in his rookie season, they'd have had far fewer headaches. The situation was unprecedented and remains so.

[Bo_apex]

explain Hungary @paulguitar

[paulguitar]

Bo_apex said:

explain Hungary @paulguitar

Explain what, exactly?

[Bo_apex]

paulguitar said:

Bo_apex said:

explain Hungary @paulguitar

Explain what, exactly?

(quote) Then years later I found out that it was Hamilton who broke the internal team agreement to give Alonso the optimum qualifying lap (it alternated race-by-race), but the media never said a word about it! Alonso was simply portrayed as the villain for the rest of the season.(quote)

[paulguitar]

Bo_apex said:

(quote) Then years later I found out that it was Hamilton who broke the internal team agreement to give Alonso the optimum qualifying lap (it alternated race-by-race), but the media never said a word about it! Alonso was simply portrayed as the villain for the rest of the season.(quote)

Hamilton started that by going against the team agreement for who went out first. One of the few genuinely dodgy things he's done in a very long career.

Alonso escalated things by blocking Hamilton and then took it into the stratosphere by blackmailing the team.

Alonso was under immense pressure with Hamilton being at least as quick and he wanted/requested the team to force Hamilton to act as a number two driver. The team declined and Alonso lost his marbles.

[deadslow]

paulguitar said:

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Alonso escalated things by blocking Hamilton and then took it into the stratosphere by blackmailing the team.

........

Alonso didn't blackmail anyone. He had a blow-out argument with RD and threatened to tell all, but apologised 10 minutes later. Hamilton actually ratted out his own team-mate,Alonso, to the stewards, RD actually ratted out the whole team to Mosely, but it was all johnny foreigner's fault. Whodathunkit.

[Bo_apex]

Mentor Ron, Protégé Lewis, Lobbyist Anthony.

Happy days

[paulguitar]

Bo_apex said:

Mentor Ron, Protégé Lewis, Lobbyist Anthony.

Happy days

Yep, Anthony and Ron took turns driving the McLaren.

[Bo_apex]

paulguitar said:

Bo_apex said:

Mentor Ron, Protégé Lewis, Lobbyist Anthony.

Happy days

Yep, Anthony and Ron took turns driving the McLaren.

brilliant

@paulguitar

[paulguitar]

Bo_apex said:

brilliant

@paulguitar

All of your st has been repeatedly debunked, Sparta.